Empires Summer Scrim League Game 3 - 27th June 21:00 BST/ 16:00 EDT/ 13:00 PDT

Fit the plasma on a NF heavy, overheat the shit out of a target.
If cannon is too heavy then use plasma mg.

Then salvo the fuck out of it.
Plasma shouldn't really be a heavy hitting weapon.

 

And if you treat it as a support weapon, no one ever researches or uses it. That's my problem with it.

 

Disallow doubling weapons on heavies, so you have to get at least two to properly use them?

 

Make a bio cannon and then tada, it provides a good alternative to bioml and then can't be "doubled" effectively.

Maybe that's not a "support" weapon, but it would have to "support" some kind of other ml on heavies or else the tank would suck.

 

How about plasma CN actually inflicting a status which reduces your max speed to ~50-75% instead of heating up the target?

 

How about overheating in general, instead of stopping a tank completely, reduced max speed to 75%

 

I will, and will educate others on the matter.
I will write a book on plasma if I must.

 

That's kinda interesting, we never really talked about having different status effects. It's all been about heat, persistent damage, or regular damage.

To be fair, tank combat would still be a lot more interesting if we added a set of damage systems. So you could lose functionality over a certain part if it was heavily damaged, and would need to return to a repair pad (not just engy repair) to get it fixed.

I'm not sure if it's codeable though.

 

I think the easiest thing that could be done is a reduction is splash and a resist to buildings (30-50%). That would honestly do a world of good.

Outside of that, the only other thing I can think of is increasing the self-heat by 10-20% so you hit that threshold in which you need more than 1 tank to permaoverheat an enemy tank. A lot of the time this is worked out (balancewise) with the assumption the enemy has 0 heat to start with, but 9/10 times the enemy is using weapons, especially ones like nukes, which means it completely counters that weapon and means the enemy tanks can literally only use biodiesel which is kind of lame.

But yeah, Candles is right, heat to target in general is lame. He's also right about support weapons in the sense that absolutely no-one will ever use them, so it's pointless to try working them in.

 

Maybe i will get in the scrim this time like scrim #1 and not like scrim #2.

 

I like Reznov's idea to make plasma cannons just slow down enemy vehicles without overheating them.

 

the way empires handles overheating is just really bad, there's very littlevisual/audio cues too. I think that the way arcady mech games (armored core springs to mind) would be better.

basically once you overheat you get some flashing and some alarms go off, then you have some brief pause where the speed of the vehicle is slow and you cannot fire, after a few seconds there is a "Purge" of heat and the meter rapidly drops back to 0, usually accompanied by a flash of steam. Once the meter is reset you get backup to speed and can fire again.

I know this is probably not possible with the current code, but I just wanted to throw it out there. You then have values for that in the engine/radiator so research could actually influence max heat capacoty, purge delay, purge speed, etc.

There is probably alot of good stuff in those kinds of games that would apply directly to vehicle customisation.

 

If you weren't given a place then I need to be informed. I can't deal with issues like this if people don't communicate with me.

 

If anything id like a visual cue for the enemy to know someones overheated.

 

Just get a list of people who tried to get in the matches before but didnt get in and put them on some sort of priority.

 

Just split the extras between the two squads, so we don't have to leave people out for balancing reasons.
Far as I know, we haven't let left anyone out in Xray.