Empires Summer Scrim League Game 3 - 27th June 21:00 BST/ 16:00 EDT/ 13:00 PDT

That's interesting. Did we ever get a map designed where instead of fall damage being nerfed, mappers put water at points where you might try to jump down? Shouldn't that kind of be the way instead?

 

Forest is a great map and Spartacus is about right with it. I intend to have it played at some point.

Arid is super underplayed because it just doesn't play out particularly well in pubs, simply because you can't place raxes close to the centre but if you use APCs, people tend to steal them. In a scrim scenario though, people may be more disciplined and I think it could actually be really interesting. If we get like 6 maps into this league and the interest to continue is still there, I might give Arid a try.

 

Yeah Arid isn't the best example, it's a difficult map, but others like plunge, forest, research, and names I forgot, it would sure be interesting.

 

I'm actually somewhat interested in how a scrim on Research might go.

 

quickly

 

ehhh I don't really like the idea of that map. To be honest I don't like that map in general because the only way vehicles get across is through that shitty bridge so I expect some shitty stalemate with people covering the canal from both sides and the bridge being a clusterfuck that vehicles can't drive through. If there were 2 more vehicle bridges it would be a different map. I can't remember if vehicles can get in through the canal but any good team should make sure they don't. Eventually arty will come out and the game will be won like that, but it just doesn't seem fun to me.

It's kind of like Homeland. Whereas I love Homeland as a map, I don't actually think it would play out that well in a scrim unless we had a lower playercount. I know it was the final match in the 2009 pugs but the whole league was in its death's throes at that point so I don't know how much of an indicator that is, but basically it's either a stalemate or a steamroll, there's very little room for push and pull because scrim teams don't leave entire passages open for you to drive through like they do in pub servers.

 

Then make two scrim matches in a week.
One for giant clusterfucks and another for those 14v14's or whatever.

 

Well i just dont want to run into yet another player that gets booted from the one game we have a week (since the scrim apparently killed the rest somehow)

 

Like, there might be ramps, I can't remember, but with dropping into the canal I just see that becoming a killzone. I know for certain there's only 1 bridge from high-ground to high-ground.

 

With any more than 11v11 it would be real hard to avoid a stale mate - all those easily accessible rooftops make it a real good place to defend.

There is lots of infantry goodness there, so it could be a fun run-off map.

 

I should be able to make it this time

 

Yeah, it's to easy to snipe bases from safe elevated positions.

When you have enough players to protect the snipers, then I bet it would be challenging to keep buildings up and therefore it would end quickly.

 

hopefully this scrim has proved to people that only noobs (spike, lawliet) get extended range instead of plasma

 

In the past this post would have been satire

 

I take it you don't know that they agreed to ban plasma because it's unbalanced.

 

I wasn't aware of this but really good on the guys who managed to agree on this, it makes for far better games.