Poor attendance of the Official 1.08 server

Discussion in 'Archive' started by eth0, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. Bag Of Minge

    Bag Of Minge Member

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    1. Because i would be able to switch my own maps + Test out the stuff.

    2. What do you know, i just found the server. Turns out it is I.P only.
    And it is 24/7. hl2.empiresmod.com i just found.
     
  2. Caelo

    Caelo Member

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    1. test stuff out in 1.07 or wait for 1.08 to be released. There's a reason why Krenzo disabled the create server thing...
    2. :)
     
  3. Angry

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    1. working with bodrick on his projects and parallax.

    2. I work, some of you should try it some time.
     
  4. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    work is over rated. I know, I do it for a living.
     
  5. knighttemplar

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    Actually I likely could, though geneologies mess me up

    I don't play as much as I would like because I'm a full time student and I have lots of essays to write etc.
     
  6. nick

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    I used to play very often, but the ultra powerful nf rifle, and the mines really piss me off most of the time.


    oh yeah, I also wanted to say, I really hate infantry only maps. I really only play empires to play with the tanks. Getting revived/spawnkilled/revived/spawnkilled/revived/spawnkilled/revived/spawnkilled/ on district is not my idea of fun. The only real way to improve district is to give each team free jeeps, that would be fun.
     
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  7. pickjaoe

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    District was designed to be a break between the classic maps, or so I hear.
     
  8. knighttemplar

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    That was Escort I believe, but I agree that there are a lot of infantry only maps, I think it's due to the rotation and the lack of admins or RTV to change the maps
     
  9. Silk

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    Bsid has gone through a difficult period, give them a chance to change their reputation.

    And they are (or at least have) good commanders, and very skilled players. As first clan they've set the bar for other clans, and although some members left they still are a formidable team.

    Edit: wasn't there a post in which someone complained about bsid, right before this post, or did i reply in the wrong topic?
     
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  10. Trid3nt

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    Most of the people in the lower ranks in BSID are really great people. But lets not get into clan debates (again) Also, clan stacking is to be expected, it is a training session for them, most of the time. Also, if there are equal teams and one JPL on NF say, I will join the NF, because I would have a better game playing with someone I know, they are going to be a good player.
     
  11. Solokiller

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    Test server =/= training server. Mines are supposed to kill you nick, so quit complaining.
     
  12. Private Sandbag

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    every time someone brings up the BSID fight i put another kitten in the box. the box is pretty full right now and the kittens are running out of air. so for heavens sake PLEASE don't bring it up again.
     
  13. Mr. Weedy

    Mr. Weedy I will report bugs on the bug tracker

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    If this nick -guy is the one who was on SourceForts mod's site, he's really problematic person.

    And I play as often as there's 3 vs 3 people even that isnt' so fun but I play Empires 1.08 most of the time which I have free.
     
  14. Private Sandbag

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    can someone give duke a kick in the butt so we can get full servers 24/7
     
  15. Destroyer224

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    I'm putting in my 200 cents in this post, and if you do not wish to spend a long time reading this, there will be a simplified version at the end. But it will be exactly that, simplified, without all of my points and references, and opinions. If you have time to burn, go ahead and read this whole post.

    Too-few Players

    I honestly believe this is because of several combinations of factors that make up a whole.

    1) A single server located in a fixed location. This is good for players in the US who are close to the server and get great ping on the server everyone plays on. This is bad for players who live in locations farther away from the server and have no access to any servers closer to them. They may not play due to the high ping they get, or purely because they cannot connect easily to the server.

    2) Different time-zones and a limited playerbase. People live in different areas of the world and thus live in different timezones, which means that everyone cannot be on at the same time. This cannot be avoided, but the problem is compounded when there is a limited amount of players. This means that sometimes people cannot get a good game going because there are only a few people who live in a similar timezone to them, and some of them may have other things to do.

    3) Map rotation: Some people do not want to play a lot of flag maps and want to play more conquest, for others, the opposite is true. Unlike some of the other issues, this could be easily rectified. A simple voting sysem could let players choose whether they want to play classic, or a flag map.

    Clans

    After spending an hour reading all of this, I have seen that most people have taken a bad attitude towards clans. I completely understand why after all of this clan warring. Now, I am not absolutely positive on this because I cannot be on 24/7, 365, and one-fourth days a year, but most of that has died down. I haven't seen any major outbursts from any of them recently, and it seems that everyone just has a bad aftertaste that doesn't want to go away.

    I have not seen much clan-stacking compared to what I have been hearing about in this thread. If I went completely off of what I have read in this thread, I would think that clan stacking is a major issue and that it happens on a game-to-game basis. My experience is that clans do not stack unless they want to play with a few people that they know well or for example, two clans wish to fight eachother in a friendly game of Empires, allowing for other players to have fun along with them. (The only exception to this is when I sometimes see CW do a little stacking against other players, but not in the sense where they make a game 5v2 with the two being complete newbies, more in the sense of a 5v5 where 4 on one side is CW and the other side has various mixes of people, usually with a good person or two) But there's another thing to take into acount, CW and O|ne have more members than other clans, (Or so it seems) but some of them don't play regularily, so every once in a while, several inactive members may come online and want to play a game or two with eachother.

    Yes, I wholely admit that myself being in JPL may be infuencing my opinions, but just the same, people who aren't in a clan who are viewing them all as a whole, and basing their opinions off of what a few people of one clan might have done may be infuencing them in the same way.



    Simplified Version
    (:headshot: in case you don't want to make your eyes bleed:headshot: )

    Too few players is to me, caused by a combination of:
    Different timezones and a limited playerbase due to the fact that this is an RC.
    Players cannot choose whether or not they are tired of flag maps, or if they want a specific map, it automatically chooses for them.
    There is only one server, located in the US. This is disadantageous for some people, because they get bad ping, and have trouble playing.

    People have a bad opinion of clans (understandably) from what has ensued in the past. But even as they get better, people still have a bad aftertaste that does not want to go away and this is making people more attuned to things such as minor clan stacking, (Sometimes there is an amount of clan stacking, but not as much as people make it out to be) and basing their judgements. I am not saying that I am completely un-touched by being in JPL.

    I know that this will look biased to some of you and there is a good chance that part of it is. That is ok as long as you tell me why you think ___ is wrong, or _____ happens alot more than I realize in a non-flaming way. I've seen many people get flamed-yet-not-flamed for posting their opinions.

    If you have bloodshot eyes, then I am glad that you read my whole post. For those of you who already had bloodshot eyes and didn't read it all, I can understand why^^ . I myself didn't bother to re-read the entire thing and I wrote it.

    EDIT: Now with pretty colors!
     
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  16. nick

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    I believe I can safely tell you the reason that there is poor attendance, is that there are some very annoying "features" and inbalances in the game.

    NF Scout one hit rifle is too powerful. NF light tank owns be almost every game, until be gets light tank, which rarely happens because NF owns them before they get a chance to research. If those two issues were balanced, then I would play a lot more. Also, I don't like this sabotage feature of the scout.

    Yes, Destroyer, I read your entire post, I do not believe that timezones, or non-euro servers are a big problem at all.
     
  17. arklansman

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    Actually the poor attendance is because:
    1. It's a semi-closed forum test.
    2. Empires didn't have a large playerbase during 1.07, and the test is mostly people who played during 1.07.
    3. Those of us who play regularly cannot play 24 hours a day.
     
  18. Shinzon

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    Wasn't O|nE the first clan in Empires? if im wrong then they were the first and most prominant clan with their own server...

    ****

    Many players were turned off because of the initial lag of Empires... Comming would cause you to crash unless you got out and drove back and foward... Then a pretty demeaning review on modDB, then the wiki deleting the empires page, none of which helped Empires raise a higher community...

    I personaly really like how Empires is shaping out, and I love the asymetrical ballance in Empires; and would love to see it exagurated even more, to the point where both factions require a diffrent style of play...
     
  19. Niarbeht

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    I believe that the fleshing out of the faction details is planned for post-aircraft.
     
  20. Jcw87

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    Starting from RC7, whenever there were 4 or 5 BSID players on, they stacked the same team EVERY FUCKING GAME! Then, at some point, BSID stopped playing 1.08 for a while, and now their stacking has died down a bit. At least now it's bearable.
     

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