[EMOSL] Pick-Up Game Draft

Discussion in 'General' started by Lawliet, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    Mathematicly speaking theres a higher chance of getting unfair teams than even teams cause the ammount of possible unfair teams to make is higher than the ammount of fair teams you can make.
     
  2. Drag0wn

    Drag0wn Member

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    Well I'm looking forward to it, flame wars on the forum aside:D

    Draft picks sounds like a nice system, so let's try it out. If it flops horribly well there we go. We won't do it again.
     
  3. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    Thing is I'm pretty sure it has been done multiple times in the past for empires and it usually works out well. Talking about draft style pick.
     
  4. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    I remember it been done once, problem then was one captain was super serious about winning and the other one just wanted to have fun so the super serious captain got all the good players and won the games.
     
  5. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    Wasn't that game Paradox vs Security? I'm sure Security wad captain of one team, I just don't remember the other. Anyway, that is what happened, and after all, that's how troll pick vs srs pick will always end. At the same time, though, the imbalance is then caused not by the will of many, but by the lust for lulz of one - there's simply less room for failure, period.
     
  6. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Teef- 3
    Paradox- 1

    I am sorry but you have't earn the right to shit talk.
    Please contact my secretary if you have any future complaints.

    I said hypotheticals are not allowed.
     
  7. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    I gave a run-down in the other thread, and this discussion should stick to that one.
     
  8. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    Not sure I wasnt a captain though, I think it was harryhoot versus someone
     
  9. Lawliet

    Lawliet Member

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    Worst case scenario, if we do not get captains for Saturday, we'll just host a normal PUG without rules.
     
  10. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    Skipping all the drama....

    Add a bit of code for a variable in the server exec to force players into spec while disabling the teams? sv_auto_spec 1
     
  11. Lawliet

    Lawliet Member

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    Thank you. All the server stuff has always been trouble for me but you guys are really helping out. Thanks again.
     
  12. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    shut up you little bitch

    also why is metruption banned
     
  13. Lawliet

    Lawliet Member

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    Metruption isn't banned bro.
     
  14. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    Metruption got banned for multi-accounting. It's a short ban, only two days.

    Actually, that's a good idea that'd be simple to do. I'll put it in tomorrow.

    EDIT:: Fuck it, that's such an easy feature that I already added it.
     
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  15. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Man he is on a roll.
     
  16. Herbie

    Herbie Junior Member

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    Could you please introduce explicit rules against switching teams.From previous experience in this format I have seen the integrity of a teams draft dismantled and 5 minutes of strategic planning compromised by players who either do not understand the format correctly or simply decide that it doesn't concern them. You are placed on a team, you stay on that team, no matter what happens.

    I like the fact that you are drafting each game, it eliminates a lot of potential for absence and playing multiple games with stacked teams. But it also means that you need to regulate the draft time, a maximum of 10 seconds per pick, for example, I believe is necessary.

    I also think a cap on the number of games should always be introduced. I don't know about others but whenever I see the potential for limitless games, it makes me less compelled to continue playing. When the number of games is limited, you always end on a high, with a well populated server and players who have put everything into the game. When you do not limit the games it always ends on a low, the rules become seemingly unimportant and the games are much worse. 3 is ideal.

    Overall, this is just my opinion and I believe this event will work better than what I've heard spikes turned out to be. Either way, Thank you Lawliet for putting on this event and trying to improve things.

    Edit: Probably should have gone in feedback thread but nevermind.
     
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  17. FN198

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    emosl superior

    /shitpost
     
  18. Ikalx

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    A Pug? Well this is more my speed. I have something else to do the same time every week, but sometimes it's real quiet, so I might join.

    I see people are being a bit scared about unfair teams...well, what would be a little fun would be to pick the super skilled team and have the low-skilled team against them. It might seem a bit hard to begin with, but the best way to get better quickly is to play against a challenge.

    Of course with Empires it's pretty dependent, and on a map like midbridge you wouldn't learn anything from that - too many areas you can be wiped out from and not recover easily. But on something like duststorm, it provides an ample field for honing your skills, without being too skewed.
     
  19. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    Trickster... where is my pat on the back?

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    That's what like 45 bad ideas and 4 good? That's got to be a new record for empires!
     
  20. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    Duststorm remains to be the map that can end the fastest in my opinion, after seeing it happen so many times. If you can get both commanders to agree to not rush each other, sure maybe. Most fun on that map is when both commanders are either both incompetent or highly competent.

    I can't say much about the idea of skilled versus unskilled. If unskilled is heavily stacked player count wise maybe. But I think it was proven a couple of times it doesn't work, the overly competent team will win.
     

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