Anouncement: Blackhole Reconcilliation

Before May people were continuously pointing out how sparse the servers were. "Great" is a relative term. By the activity standards of 2006-2008 Empires is a ghost town, but by the activity standards of 2011-2014 activity has clearly improved. Pugs and other organized matches have always played an important role in this. The Empires League itself, in 2007-2008 under the leadership of Evan, helped rally the clans towards this end and had dedicated servers.

You cannot think purely in terms of numbers. You have to remember that the forces which will actually raise the activity of the mod have been set in motion since May. The founding of the New Empires Pug, the establishment of the Nubs server, the establishment of the JFR and BSP clans, etc., if allowed to expand their activities, and if at the same time development is genuinely carried out as it was by the early developers and contributors to the mod, numerical activity will increase as well.

As for the old forum software, it was a gigantic security risk. I myself remember when the original forum was hacked in early 2006. The decision to move to vBulletin was done for security reasons, but no effort was made to upgrade the forum software in any noticeable way after 2007, when the Deeists began to assume control of the mod and its entire community. This was intentional, the old software was easily exploitable and could be used for the Deeists to intimidate users, to get their private account information, etc.

 

this candidate definitely came in under the wire

also i saw star wars 7 yesterday and it was literally better than all of the previous ones. pretty sad to be upstaged by fucking jj abrahms

awpolt is for sure a shoe-in for greatest rise 2k15

 

Activity is defined not just in terms of how many people are playing the mod at any given time, it's also defined in terms of development, in terms of clans, in terms of the community (e.g. how active are the forum areas on here besides Off-Topic.) Simply put, the main task right now is to establish the means by which activity can increase after years of pronounced stagnation. That is why May and subsequent months have been so important, because they have entailed the introduction of a real development team (one that actually develops and operates as a team), the introduction of new rules to raise the standards of the forum and thus encourage greater discourse on it, new clans, a new pug, a new server, etc. The degeneration of the mod and its community under Deeist tutelage since 2007 saw a great many users leave it, and constant repetition to the effect that "Empires is dead" since late 2009. Only by strengthening the community and returning to the standards of the early developers and contributors of the mod, as those standards existed in 2004-2006, can progress be ensured.

Many users are waiting for the new version of Empires to be released. At the same time the Deeist clique continued to carry out a policy of repression against those supporting the progressive changes enacted since May, which naturally had a negative impact on activity. For example, in October when the new rules were announced Dragolich was permanently banned by one of the Deeists for vigorously speaking out in defense of the rules. Amatoxin, Gelatin Skeleton and others openly defended the new rules at their own peril. Under changed conditions, activity should increase both in regards to the mod and in regards to its community in the coming months.

The spurt in activity in June-July was due to the effects of May 8 and efforts to establish the New Empires Pug. The League informed many veteran users of what had happened in May and told them to take advantage of the situation in order to support the progress being made by JLF, Vicki and others. When the new pug was founded the League also sent out mass appeals for veterans and other progress-minded users to join it. At the same time many did express defeatist or pessimistic sentiments to myself and other members of the League, saying that "the Deeists are too strong," "they're still in power," "it's too late to save Empires," etc., which is why they must be shown to be mistaken by further strengthening all that which will promote the mod's development and the community's betterment.

As for why the forum wasn't upgraded, the cost wasn't the issue. A prominent Deeist told me back in 2010 that "nobody cba to do it," but in fact none of the Deeists wanted to do it for the reasons I already gave. The League was willing to pay money to upgrade the forum, but its offer was rejected.

 

It was a soulless copy of the first movie. But the action was competently done. And lets not talk about this long haired faggot behind the mask...

 

Can I just get banned?
I dont wanna read all the shit that goes on in Mrdies head.

 

This is you right now.

 

This is bad. Why are we letting those guys out? I tought we exiled them! I may have a crucial idea to this...

 

Lol you guys dun goofed up, even though I quit this forum because it was going to shit I'm going to just reply here to the shitfest that has managed to fester.

Idk if you realize but mrdie and everyone who supports him needs to get a straight up ban, the old guard would never fucking allow this I have no clue how you fucks managed to fuck up so bad that mrdie is back on the forums.
Like trickster would turn around in his grave seeing what you fucks done to this forum.

You guys are actually debating the fact if you should reinstate the blackhole together with Mrdie, you know, the guy that got perma fucking banned?

Like are you guys that stupid or is it me?


Like fuck I cant even verbalize how fucking hard you guys fucked up.
Like most of the vets here are going facepalm over what you shits are doing.

LIKE SERIOUSLY HOW THE FUCK IS MRDIE UNBANNED AND PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING TO HIM.
Dont you remember the fact that he was a psychopath who stalked trickster in fucking real life.

I litterally dont even how you fucks managed to fuck up so bad.

 

Rereading this entire thread just makes me facepalm even more, are you guys so fucking thick, can we just like ban catface and mrdie all together?

Like fuck how is this even a reality

 

I "got perma fucked banned" at my own request, at a time when Dee was threatening the forum administration to either ban me or to face the wrath of her and her minions who were perfectly willing to destroy the forum and the mod itself. It was to be a temporary ban, to be lifted whenever Dee was no longer in a position to do this, as Gnaeus explained in the first post. That's why the reason given for my ban was "As you wish." I myself have repeatedly said over the years that it wasn't particularly important whether I was banned or not, but whether the victory of the movement was achieved. I wasn't interested in being unbanned until said victory was carried out.

That would be exceptionally difficult seeing as how he is in Britain and I am not.

I generally don't want to comment on posts attacking me or the democratic movement, but I'm pretty sure your opposition can only be considered a point in my favor. You're a notoriously hated person.

 

Are you hearing this guy? like he thinks this forum is some sort of political party drama in the trend of "house of cards" and he's playing kevin spacey? Let me remind you kevin spacey aint doing to well in public oppinion on that show and neither are you

 

anyway gg wp empires, shit got fucked up real good this time. Best thing you guys can do is just to jump ship now.

Im out , peace

ps; dont listen to kevin spacey he's a psycho

 

It appears you were already "out" by your own admission, which doesn't surprise me in the least since the improvement in the quality of the Empires community since May was and is utterly toxic to all those who are detrimental to it.

 

Im currently thinking of why and how this is happening.

 

Threads getting deleted cause catface cant handle the truth being out there. gg wp boys, censoring is a really good move.

-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: yeah I told catface he's a fucking retard
Paradox ♥: good bet
Paradox ♥: Do u watch
Paradox ♥: agents of shield?
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: yes
Paradox ♥: doesnt this remind u
Paradox ♥: of hydra
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: no
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: because like
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: more as if
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: everyone at shield got bored
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: was like
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: yeah fuck this let's go do real things like have a life
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: everyone at hydra had a sub-100 IQ
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: and they werelike
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: I know
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: let's name ourselves shield
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: great idea
-₪EPIC₪- Trickster: and then they got some old mental case who believed he was a shield member but was actually just a schizo mental patient and welcomed him like a long lost brother

 

Quote dating 5 years back made by trickster about the sanity of mr die

Ok, I will make one post, and one post alone, stating my issue with Mr die. I had him on my friends list for what I think was around 9 months. To begin with, I thought he was pretty harmless, if a little eccentric. He seemed to think many people had an issue with him, which I was sure wasn't true. He also went on about many things that happened before my time.

Either way, he made a fairly compelling case. All he wanted was for a poll in the black hole, in which people could be nominated, and the winner would get moderator powers, and set the rules as they saw fit, within reason based on what was allowed (no warez, porn, etc). But after a while, I realised this wasn't true. He then said that because his off-forum elections which no-one had heard of made him win, he demanded he get said powers. So I disagreed there, but nonetheless, listened to his drivel for a bit longer.

After a while, he started trying to get me to do stuff for him. I politely refused for quite some time, and he got progressively more hostile with me. I then made a deal with him, that if I made a post for him, he would no longer contact Krenzo over modDB. Before I go any further, I just want to point out that nearly everyone who stays in long-term contact with him goes through the phases I have, some people are further along than others. Suffice to say, Krenzo and Brutos were at the stage then, that I am now. So anyway, I posted, and I received a ban. At the time I thought it was pretty unjustified, but looking back now, I would have done the same on the other side of the fence.

And Mr Die didn't keep his deal. At some point before this I think, we had the 2.25 release, which was pretty much ruined by constant DDoS attacks on every server. So anyway, at some point later on, Mr Die got in contact with pcwizdan and Sadistic slayer, the 2 people who did the attacks, and asked them to come back to Empires. Suffice to say that a repeat of the 2.25 release followed, and we lost even more players. Mr Die continued to state he was acting in the best interests of the mod, which, might I add, he has never played. I tried to get him to play it with another deal I made with him, which, yet again, he didn't keep.

At some point or another, someone I know was chatting to him. Mr Die came to me going on about how much they would support him, copy pasting my conversation logs. But the difference is, I was watching the conversation via remote access, and he was falsifying it. He was writing their responses himself.

In another instance, he also got in contact with a new modeller that reached the community, told him various false stories about how terrible the development team were, and this modeller subsequently left. He also kept adding his weird newsletter to the empiresmod page on wikipedia, and then tried to get us locked out of ever editing the page, so only he and other long-term registered wikipedia users could edit. As far as I know, we don't have any in the community, so it would have been his to do as he saw fit.

He has also made an effort to get in contact with Brutos repeatedly, after Brutos explained to him he didn't want contact, with Mr Die even going so far as to track down where Brutos's parents live, and contact details for them. Finally, at one stage, I spoke to him, quite civilly, and explained that I no longer wanted to be in contact with him, as I felt that I was enabling him by giving him someone to talk to about the stuff he did. Since then, he has tried to get in contact with me using in excess of 40 of my steam friends, including non-empires players, as well as my RL friends. When doing this, he has stated that he has a moderator and developer of Empires. Again, I'd like to remind you that he has never played.

At one point, Moojuice and either Empty or Zeke had a conversation with him, over microphone. This is floating around somewhere, and I can probably get a hold of it. I would honestly say that he is clinically insane. I've had days where he's been really nice, and other days where he's just spewed out homophobic, racist comments about certain members of the community, as well as just flaming me directly for no reason other than not following his orders. In this recording, he honestly sounds like a mental hospital patient, sat in a corner, talking to themselves. And feel free to listen to yourselves for confirmation. Don't even get me started on the weird-ass stories he comes out with. He goes on about how some old dev (Solokiller) took a long boat trip to meet other "Deeists" and plot the demise of the forum, and how PreDom visited Vulkanis in the US Virgin islands and had hours of homosex. Worrying part? He's serious. Oh, and there was that time he posted some giant "Grand Plan" EPIC had in the BSID forums. Suffice to say that he made this up too.

And in closing, I just want to explain one thing. He has always claimed to have support from various developers, moderators, prominent members of the community, but this is simply not true. Ask Krenzo yourself, Krenzo doesn't want any contact with Mr Die whatsoever, yet he gets spammed constantly, as well as Mr Die telling people he acts on behalf of Krenzo. He is not a civil, honest person. He is a lying, psychotic troll. He doesn't want moderator powers and other such stuff, he wants nothing more than to cause trouble. So by all means, waste your time with him, but don't for one second think he's nearly as peaceful as he seems.

Oh, and before I get the spam: No, Mr Die. I will not speak to you regarding this post, I will not debate it with you, and I'm certainly not going to unban you under the pretence of you defending yourself against it.