★UNITED STATES PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2016★

I think you should look up what a libertarian is, son. If a society isn't equal then there's no freedom for those who are in the minority. He is quite clearly the opposite of what you state.

Also what's with the statist hate? Only the odd American seems to be so anti-socialist. I hope you're enjoying your biased private services.

 

It's nonsensical too, since sexual orientation is unregulated, anyone can say they are attracted to whatever they want to say they are and there's no certificate or science required to prove it. Race and sex make sense because those are regulated by genes but sexual orientation is just a spook.

 

are you saying that sexual orientation is a social construct invented by the patriarchy? didn't know there were feminist here

 

More like the two are easily identifiable.
Saying genes dont have anyting to do with orientation is foolish though.

 

Lol talking about libertarianism while trying to regulate everything.
I'm glad you're not in my country.

 

I'm sure there's a possibility genetics have something to do with sexual orientation, but there's also a pattern that boys who have lots of older brothers are more likely to be less straight than the first born, so that would suggest a social rather than genetic factor. Even then, sexual orientation is meaningless especially when related to the quality of work someone can do.

No, I'm saying that sexual orientation isn't regulated, unlike race, university degrees, or the divine rights of kings. Any claims made by anyone about their own sexual orientation hold no legitimacy unless you observe the hardness of their penis/nipples as they watch gay and straight porn.

 

good example of what I mean, its difficult for those who don't live in the USA to really understand what it is like here and how the constitution is intended.

 

I've never been asked for sexual orientation in any job interviews. We can optionally disclose our race and stuff.
I suppose there will be places that take sexual orientation into considering.

It is statist to force everywhere to disregard sexual orientation.

 

God dammit grant i dont want to insult you solely based on you not knowing better but jesus christ does lack of basic biology knowledge piss me off for no fucking apparent reason.

They have *everything* to do with it. Everything tied to the genes one way or another. Sexuality is not an exception, albeit its most definitely not one of the simple Mendel model traits.

Its what i meant in the first post.

 

I still don't get it though. What's so good about anti-abortion and voluntary vaccines? You just said I was a socialist, which is correct I am, as is most of Europe, and I think most of us are utterly confused at this stance.

But you've yet to give a reason as to why this is correct except 'taking away ma freedom'!

 

Why, you wouldnt want to have the opportunity of suffering from polio taken away from you now? It is *the* land of opportunity, isnt it? im going to flip my shit if someone takes this post literally

 

Truth be told I have not had a single teacher ever say it was genetic so I didn't want to say it was. Also social vs genetic controversy.

Abortion is murder; it's a choice you make for someone else, to kill them. Abortion clinics are still necessary because people will still go out of their way to get abortion done by back-alley "doctors", but there's no way you can actually think abortion is ok.

 

I honestly cant tell if youre trying to make an honest argument or have we fully descended into "lol bible belt, usa" jokes territory.

 

And vaccines?

 

mhmm, speak on that

 

[Originally Posted by Grantrithor View Post

but there's no way you can actually think abortion is ok.]

What about if a woman is raped and is impregnated by the rapist?

 

Can we? Even in bigosland theres a growing discontent with them. Id know, i have a cousin who went for half a day about how hed never let his son get any of the stuff. Mind you its a person with higher education who also went to med uni for a time. Even those people are not immune to scares and internet forums spreading unsubstanciaded bullshit.

I swear the idiot who wrote about correlation between vaccines and autism will have rotten tomatoes thrown at his grave. Even better, i hope someone will set a photo of a dead kid nearby with death cause written as "Human stupidity".

 

Actually there has been a real study about 1 vacin causing autism. READ 1 SINGULAR VACCINE. And please dont take this out of context. 1 study had a slight increase of people without vaccination and people with, with autism. It was windpocks I think. The amount of people who got it was elavated a little. But the study sizes were small so it could be statistically biased, but me saying all of this the way I say it is biased. Also I'm pro forced vaccins I just wanted to point out, 1 of the vaccins outof a million perfectly good ones had elavated signs of autism.


Also people in America hate their " freedom" taken away from them. Even though their freedom is deciding if you want your baby to get sick or not sick. You dont want to actually take away that choice even though 99.9999 percent of the people say not get sick.


Also I dont want to get into this health obama care too much but basicly people just have very bad viewpoints about taxing and shit.

Lets say you dont have obamacare, you dont pay nothing , you dont get sick your entire life, you gucci. Didnt pay anything.

Lets say you do have obama care you pay money, you never get sick you gucci.

You get sick once and you done for. Thats the problem. Paying money for stuff you dont need or think you dont need isnt paying money for nothing. Its paying money in case you get sick and have to pay ginormous bills to not go bankrupt or live on the streets. You pay just incase you get sick and you get screwed over. Privatizing health is the worst thing ever. Like imagine all the hospitals in a country run fully privatized, seeing adds on the television, on your facebook feeds to go to a certain chain of hospitals. You are going to get screwed in your ass so much. They'll cut costs everywhere and once in a while you'll see a big scam in the news or some scumbag thing that effected some people around you, but didnt effect you. That's the biggest problem here, people cant imagine other people who did get affected their point of view.

Health costs so much in the states because companies rule the states. You guys get propaganda thrown at your face so much. People with insurance actually pay more in hospitals than people without insurance because they know they can charge more because they are 2 different companies in which one in the chain is privatized. Imagine if the entire chain of health is run by the government. Yes it would be inefficient at times, but yes it would be so much cheaper.

Im pretty bad at conveying my ideas but as someone who studies this field and has experience. Please please please always vote the side thats pro unprivatizing health. Health is important, having it in the hands of people who care about money is litterally the difference between life or death. Getting blood drawn with a good needle or a bad needle can kill you if they cut costs.



PLEASE DONT VOTE FOR THE SIDE THAT PRIVATISES HEALTH.
Vote pro obama care because you dont need it today, but the day you need it and you dont have it you royally fucked.