★UNITED STATES PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2016★

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  1. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    obamacare in its final form today keeps healthcare privatized as well as mandatory
    just sayin'
     
  2. Deiform

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    It wasn't a real study though. It was real in the fact it existed but it was all false. But yeah, rest of your point is agreeable.
     
  3. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    Yeah but obama care is just a stepping stone. You cant force social medicine like we have in europe instantly down the throats of freedom loving americans. Its a start.
     
  4. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    Pretty sure it was real, it had a p of 0.049 thats why Im saying it might have just been elevated in the test group. It was fully real and not faked imho. Also it was in my college textbook which Im pretty sure isnt funded by some anti vaccin group
     
  5. Deiform

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    Yeah it was later debunked after everyone lost their shit in the late 90s.
     
  6. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    I wish we could all be this reasonable.

    No one wants abortions to happen; there's no question. But they are unavoidable, so you might as well make them legal, regulated & safe.

    The same thing applies to recreational drugs, alcohol, gambling, smoking, porn, guns, prostitution, underage sex and basically every other taboo thing.

    Nah, let's keep stigmatizing shit and then acting surprised when the mafia initially gets funded by illegal alcohol or the cartels initially get funded by illegal narcotics, terrorists initially get funded by opium or the sex trade initially gets funded by illegal prostitution.

    Also, fucking sin tax. Who doesn't love that?
     
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  7. McGyver

    McGyver Experimental Pedagogue

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    Lol, everytime you wank off you make a decision for someone else not to exist and for your sperms to die, life is hard. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    Im not sure if grant is serious right now or trolling.

    Like if hes trolling, nice job on the trolling.

    If hes not, are you fucking serious that abortion is murder? If abortion is murder, you drinking alcohol is murder, you eating anything toxic is murder. You doing anything at all that influences your future sperm is murder. The only reason people think abortion is murder is because they are misinformed. Same for vaccins, same for anything that relates to anything science wise.

    Please enlighten yourself grant. Abortion isnt murder because a fetus-> is as alive as your skincells.
     
  9. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    I love 3am and how it changes how the brain works. While reading, two becomes one for hilarious effect.
     
  10. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    Actually since you could consider sperm cells different and separete organisms (arguably, they are that) nearly every man is a mass murderer on an unparalleled scale, if we were to claim destroying a cell is "murder". Millions die of starvation every month!
     
  11. complete_

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    looks like we got ourselves a social justice warrior
     
  12. Metruption

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    literally thousands of babies are killed every time you wank it
     
  13. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    more like spermal justice warrior.

    Healthcare for the elderly cells!
    Education!
    Wankers belong in jail!
    Bread and games!
    We want Unions!
     
  14. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    In other news, USA presidential erections~!
     
  15. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    But Hillary doesn't have an erection...

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Señor_Awesome

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    TIL Spartacus believes that Hillary is a woman. Don't believe the propaganda! Women can't run for president!
     
  17. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    fixed the typo
     
  18. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Ooo abortion my favorite. Alright under the definition of what a fetus is.

    Okay Mr. wikipedia, does this mean the fetus is classified as a living creature?
    Oh you don't have that opinion, okay lets look elsewhere.
    Lets try a website in for choice.
    Says they consider a fetus a human

    Now lets try against choice.
    They also say a fetus is a human.

    Now with these two given sources of differentiating opinions they seem to have same idea that a fetus is a human being. A fetus is a living breathing thing, but so are cows, pigs, and plants.
    Killing them can also be classified as murder.

    But how does killing a human being considered murder but not against plant life or animals?

    So your telling me murder is entirely subjective?
    Well I don't agree with that view point however I see that the word needs reworking so we can stop misusing it.

    So from what I discovered is, having an abortion is the act of taking a life away but is not classified as murder under these terms. But lets not kid here.
    Under technical terms you are killing something, however it's not my place to tell what women should do and not do with their body.
    Im not a scientist, it being labeled as human is subjective information. But if it breathes, moves, and needs energy. It is a living thing, and those are objective facts.

    You are either supporting the killing of a living thing, or supporting mothers who where forced children on them consensually or non.

    From my point of view there are many services available for mothers who do not wish to have a child besides abortion. In this country at-least, this does not apply to the rest of the world however. There is also the risk of the birth taking the life of the mother in the process, and there I agree abortion should be an option. So bottom line, I prefer somebody not to abort and exhaust all their options before resorting to abortion.

    You could say im pro-choice but I am tolerating that stance because the alternative is more severe and has worse consequences with the given evidence.
    Honestly, just avoid abortion and let the women argue about this subject amongst themselves.
    Because no matter what stance we take, we will be wrong.
     
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  19. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    Considering something human, and considering something alive is different.

    A woman should always have the choice to say no to having a child up to the point that it is "alive" unless it means she dies aswell. Or if its genetically faulted. ( only severe cases )
     
  20. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    in b4 grant post
     
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