Squad revive costs the number of dead people +1.

Static cost for that one power really doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me. Often you find yourself in a situation where you have like 2 guys out in the open that are dead. Problem: You could use them. They are bored as shit. Using 6 points is a waste.
Another situation is where lategame you organise rev squads. How many times do you have people screw around and not quit the squads after getting revived or join rev squads for no reason?
Originally i wanted it to be a flat one per guy, but it costs 6 points for 4 dead guys at best and points are not dividable. It would also be wayy too spammable at one point, hence the +1.

Really, if anyone figures a better system sure, the core is making mass revive not shit for fewer dead guys.

 

I agree.

 

In a vacuum, this isn't a bad idea.

However, it causes some inconsistency with the other skills.

If only one player in the squad is damaged, can I get a discount to heal just him?

Or if we only have three total players in the squad, can squad hide be cheaper?

 

It does so indeed, however healing is way cheaper and making it dependant on current health would lead to it costing like 10 points or somesuch if everyone got clipped by a nuke.

Others.. I dont really see the problem. One is that i dont think making rev better would somehow invalide the other, secondly they are highly situational, chances are, if you are using them, you have a full squad of people who have their shit more or less together.

Im not really trying to reinvent the wheel here. Sure making other powers be dependant on that would perhaps be more fair, but it really would add too much confusion, with every power having some other way of scaling points cost. Rev just seems like it hurts the most.


Oh and another thing that really bugs me, so ill throw it in as well:

If you do not meet the points cost necessary to revive every person, the power revives as many people as it can instead.

 

none of the other squad abilities do this

 

none of the other squad abilities are as important either

 

So to sum it up in words I can understand.

The cost of revive changes depending on how many people are dead?
I can go with that.

 

Dynamic squad powers...

Squad Armor based on number of squadmembers costwise
Squad Speed based on number of people costwise
Squad Arty damage and points scales with people
Squad Damage cost scales with amount of people
Squad Hide cost scales with amunt of people
Squad Radar cost scales with amoint of people
Squad Heal scales with total amount healed (1 point per 50 damage?)
Squad Res scales with total deadpeople

squad heal cost...
1 + (int)((squadMaxHP-squadCurrentHP)/50)

 

See I took it more that it's a tactical sacrifice to use a constant amount of points for all numbers of people, that if you REALLY needed to squad rev just 1 or 2 people you'd put your points into it. Just my opinion.

 

^ pretty much

 

Before this change:
Simpler implementation
Gameplay exists
Choice matters (spend more for less now, or take a risk and get better value later)

After the change:
Complex implementation
Less choice (still slight change in efficiency but still)

I'll keep it as is, complexity remains the same and there are choices. No reason to add more wheels and gears to a functional system.

 

Im sorry guys, but im not sold on your argument on it being complex. Its an equation with one simple variable with four possible outcomes, possible for a kindargardener to solve. Your math also seems faulty, as while Id agree you could call it a "choice", the equation still makes reviving less people less efficient, you would stil have a "choice" to use points less efficiently, but without depleting the pool as rapidly

 

I kinda see both points here. Is there a middle ground? Something like 4 points for 1-2 and 6 points for 3-4? Like Lazybum's idea.

Also...might sound a little retarded, but do we want all the squad heals/revives with the engy and also the regular healing/revive abilities? Would it make more sense to say, move heal to evil riflemen in trade for rifle's best ability?

 

What would thast even be? Both are pretty useless.

 

Charge is an underrated ability.

 

Squad hide is not really trolling. I think it's a valid tactic on infantry maps, though I'd like to see an increase in visibility while moving because sprinting against 2 walls = total invisiblity.

 

I used to be rifleman squad lead on Escort and yeah, charge is useful from time to time.

Until NF ticket dropped, now squad revive is almost compulsive for NF to win on escort.

It's just engineer squad powers are really overshadowing rifleman's.