Should we try to log what the most popular research routes are?

Hey, I've been noticing a particular pattern in most maps with quite a few commanders in research paths. It usually straight compo->Gas engine-> HE/UGL-> mediums.
1. Is this just me? it seems early/mid game is dominated by this combo
2. For balancing, do the payers and the Dev's want to try and encourage uses of particular engines/armors/weapons? It just seems that compo as an armor defeats the purpose of that definition of a balance. Being a good all round armor with the only down side being in cost (where in some maps won't matter, or where commanders will research compo anyway because of it's all round quality)
This is basically a plea to get people to vary up what they research in each part of the game (early/mid/end) and not exactly have typical starting points and check marks in researching.

***note***
I also realize that each map is different and that the amount of resources and size of the map can affect the research, however, thinking about typical maps, more or less with similar resource income it seems that the same research is being used. (streetsoffire, canyon, slaughtered, booty bay, etc...)

In 2.5~ the typical research path would be 3-phase and compo(?) sometimes bio depending. anyway, my point is i would prefer that there not be any 1 all round good armor or engine with, in many cases minor cons rather there be 3 different basic starting engines or armors (or late game too) that have particular cons that can be manipulated by the enemy. I realize we sort of have that system now, but i think it would make the strategy side of empires more fun if it was a bigger deal. Sort of like rock paper scissors. If a beats b, then get c to beat a.... stuff like that.

So yea, What do you guys think about that? Should there be less varied options in early->mid>end engines and armors? or should there be more defined and unique research? (and keeping records of typical research)

 

Bio ML HEMG HE Compo medium tank is now the most powerful customization.
This shit only costs 700 or so.

Compo is not very expensive atm.

 

Like I said before, comp is in the worst place for its strength - i.e. most easiest tree that you have to go into anyway. Besides that, it's a bit too much of a catch all imo. I still think buffs shouldn't be built into it, and it should be a plain armour with no perks at all and a large HP to moderately compensate.

That way you just get a strong armour, but no situational resistances or regenerating. Meaning an armour with a soft-counter to the research you're fighting against would probably be better, if you can get it.

 

Yes, log research paths.

 

Without the heaviness or lesser cost, maybe. Doesn't reactive has its own resists though? It used to be useful against certain weapons, and you could always bring that back.

 

I still think compo is too strong... i would be on the boat to throw it out all together....or drastically change it's properties

 

compo needs to be expensive. it was never a problem before and it used to be an armor used for scrims when people knew it wouldnt be wasted.

 

All modifications to armor hp are now multiplicative, so there isn't an order of operations anymore. Speed to damage used to be additive, but that was retarded so now it's not. But yeah, compo generally nets a hefty resistance that pushes it into reactive territory.

Stop reminding me of this shit. My heart can't take it.

 

yes I been saying it a while now. Log everything that gets researched. What ever gets top 5 in research needs to be looked at to see if they are too OP and need a nerf. (besides the path to paper heavy)

 

i always had the most fun with the antithisis builds, try and take the best builds around and poke holes in them for the maps (i,e, fusion bio on a lt)

 

I know I probably said this before but.. Why not a random block on research.
So 1st map would block Bio next map would block chem. Have it cycle threw every thing.
Could even add a vote at the start of maps to decide what research would be blocked.

It would definitely be interesting when it blocked mechanical.

 

Because it's not really even. Not to mention squad plays = skills.

In most RTS games, yeah sure, tactics matters.

But in Empires, tactics?
Alpha squad to B2, Bravo squad to D4, when you get there drop walls and build raxs, don't forget ammo and revive.
There you go.

APC rushes/Ninjas are IMO retarded tactics, I doubt their "net advantage" is actually positive.