Scout (Rifle) is not useless >.>

Discussion in 'Game Play' started by PreDominance, May 11, 2009.

  1. OuNin

    OuNin Member

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    This happens more likely than you think.
     
  2. blizzerd

    blizzerd Member

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    thus the further. you get inside.. the enemy territory... :o Z1000000M YOU ARE A GENIUS

    ^^
     
  3. PreDominance

    PreDominance Member

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    He thinks that, by sneaking behind enemy lines to kill everyone there, they get closer to your base.

    INCREDIBLE LOGIC.
     
  4. -Mayama-

    -Mayama- MANLY MAN BITCH

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    fixed <filler>
     
  5. Chris0132'

    Chris0132' Developer

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    Are any of thse things remotely useful?

    No.

    Get a heavy tank and go blow up some armies don't prick about with scouts.
     
  6. PreDominance

    PreDominance Member

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    Because we REALLY have heavies within the first few minutes of the game..

    Anyways, scouts are chuck-full of teamwork. Send a squad member scout with hide + Smg2 to sneak behind the wall that the enemy has, kill the peeps there (it ain't hard..), then advance with your squad.

    Once again, this is about the scout rifle, not the scout itself. If you don't believe in its usefulness, play with me this weekend :D
     
  7. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    full of teamwork? just becuase they can sabotage and nothing else really?

    also i pity the guys who get killed "easily' by the smg2 scout
    (escort not included)
    thanks mayama

    also i dont give a .... about how many frags you scored once on mvalley and stuff, that only shows that the other team was stupid, not that scout is usefull.
     
  8. PreDominance

    PreDominance Member

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    /me Mehs.

    Nuff speculating. Just 'cause you can't play the scout well enough doesn't mean you gotta thnk it's useless.
     
  9. PredatoR[HUN]

    PredatoR[HUN] Member

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    the scout is not useless but annoying.
     
  10. Lumi

    Lumi Member

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    The real usefulness of the scout:
    Infiltrator (35%)
    Melee Rush (20%)
    Inf. Support (35%)
    Sniper (10%)
     
  11. ba'al

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    The scout is an engineer without the calculator + a few useless perks...
    What can an engineer do without a calculator?
     
  12. PreDominance

    PreDominance Member

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    Wtf? Everyone has a calqulater called, "E"
    Once again, you forget about:

    Sabotage
    Hide
    Inate Stamina Upgrade
    Scout Rifle

    Looks like someone needs to actually play the game.
     
  13. ba'al

    ba'al Member

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    Looks like someone needs to pull their head out of their ass, shut the hell up, listen to what everyone else is saying and PLAY THE GODAMN FUCKING GAME!
     
  14. PredatoR[HUN]

    PredatoR[HUN] Member

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    hide is not that useful and the scout rifle is going to get removed.soon.
    vehicle speed,radar stealth,enhanced senses are the only "usefull" skills the scout has.
     
  15. PreDominance

    PreDominance Member

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    E can build buildings. If you don't have enough common sense to figure that out, format yer drive. Dumbass.

    Sabotage is consistently used in every game.
    Hide is perhaps the best infantry skill in the game.
    The fact I get to places faster, useless? I think not ;)
    SR > ALL
     
  16. ba'al

    ba'al Member

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    Since you're brain dead I'll repeat it for you, without the sarcasm.
    E BUTTON CANNOT HEAL, REPAIR, BUILD DEPLOYABLES AND IT'S TEN TIMES SLOWER THAN THE CALCULATOR.
    AND. EVERY. FUCKING. CLASS. CAN. E. BUILD
    HIDE ONLY WORKS WITH A COORDINATED TEAM, AND IT'S USELESS AGAINST A COORDINATED TEAM.
    BTW, you're right, sabotaging is used a lot. Im gonna rephrase my sentence, Sabotaging is seldomly usefull, have fun sabotaging the forward armory, since a good team won't let you sabotage their forward barracks. Sabotage the refs? Most battlezones in the game are about defending the refs, if youre not getting to their rax good luck getting to the ref.

    Yes, you can get to placers faster.... and then what? Lay on your belly and snipe? Really usefull.... Gonna E build the forward rax? Too late, other team had engineers with speed upg and got theirs up first.
     
  17. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    please join napalms at evening of any day

    ill enjoy getting free frags on you


    also, hide being usefull? only agains turrets and blind players maybe

    edit: imo this topic needs to be closed, it turned into a rational players vs sr lovers endless argument topic
     
  18. ba'al

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    Wow.... I didnt read this part....

    Are you serious? what fucking game have you been playing?
    In what fucking server?
    WITH WHO???
     
  19. pickled_heretic

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    How fucking arrogant is that? "rational players vs sr lovers" implies that all sr lovers are irrational. The truth is you're preceeding intelligent discussion because you just want this to be a flame war about how you think the sr is for noobs. Let me tell you something, it's not. When you're fighting against good riflemen it's the only real counter other than other riflemen and it destroys engineers. It adds depth to gameplay because it adds another dimension to infantry combat.

    This is all about deterring newbs from camping. Well by that logic, we should get rid of the HMG, engi turrets, and mortar. let's get rid of walls too since people are prone to camp behind them. Nothing gives the user more incentive to camp than only being able to fire HMG from prone and god knows we all know how much newbie engineers like to sit and build a level 3 turret for the first 5 minutes of the game (w/o repair upgrade since they only have one feat and probably only ever will have one feat). Mortar is most commonly used offensively but if someone takes arty feedback and has a wall they can sit back and shoot all day without ever being shot back at.

    Obviously I'm not in favor of getting rid of the HMG, engi turrets or the mortar. There's nothing broken about the scout rifle. It is fine now. Leave it be. Give scouts a third weapon (shotgun) and leave the scout rifle. We shouldn't design a game around what newbs do/don't do.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2009
  20. pickled_heretic

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    there's a small group of players who can perform well with the scout rifle. I was demo'd and reported for scripting on nachos a while ago for scout rifle rape.
     

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