Revive costs a ticket

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Empty, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    I wasn't serious, it was awful. :)
     
  2. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    Peashooters were fun though, 7hp damage per hit on smg1 :)
     
  3. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    And it's those people who got the new scripts which make tanks more vulnerable to Grenadiers, reverted on VIPER. Forget how dumb they are, that's what they accomplished, and that's how the game has been affected because of their opinion. What am I supposed to do?
     
  4. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    change something so that the old scripts dont work with new release (no not serious)
     
  5. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    They won't anyway lol. But it doesn't help me when I'm now getting absolutely no fucking feedback because the scripts aren't getting played, so I have no idea how to balance them for the upcoming patch. People will then bitch that the scripts aren't balanced.

    Like seriously, what the fuck am I even supposed to do?
     
  6. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    PR empires like fucking so hard => get more players=> get more points of view => ... => empires getting awards and becoming world's nr 1 played game.

    just sayin'
     
  7. Ikalx

    Ikalx Member

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    Didn't read much more of the thread because if I ever see a good new idea it'll probably get implemented, and the rest has been done a lot.

    So how about a cackhanded proposal instead? Earn back tickets by damaging the enemy CV (hull). Or by number of large structures destroyed. Something like that where you actually have to be making headway against the enemy to get any bonus. If you're outclassed, you die. If you're coming back, you've got a chance.

    Maybe exempt scummy scouts if you go the structure route.

    Also solves building spam on end game xD

    edit: Could actually work within the atmosphere of the game, too - more headway against an enemy means that more resources will be granted to take that point, instead of ceding it to the enemy. If we ever get around to having the kind of things that aid immersion, you could have a funky voice over or just a text message with something like "reinforcements granted".
     
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  8. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    do like this suggestion. Makes bases even more of a keytarget.
     
  9. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    dont make drastic changes in the scripts then? seriously just take the stuff that people use and nerf it
    nerf uml alot
    lower abs a little
    nerf hmg (is that op? i dont remember)
    if salvo homing is going to be 3 slot, buff it

    yay now people dont always go chem
     
  10. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    yeay now everyone just goes regen and compo! yeay!
     
  11. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    no because compo sucks. and regen is countered by bio
    oh and even if you were right, going 2 trees is better than going 1
     
  12. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    I ment going bio or rushing mech you faggot.

    Anyway regen isnt countered by bio you herp derp, regen outregens bio mg these dayssss.
     
  13. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Regen has a resistance to bio now, rather than vulnerability. Reactive has the vulnerability now.

    Also, people are all telling me compo is OP.

    What the fuck do I even do. Seriously.
     
  14. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    you redo the entire tree cause right now it's complete shit, you basicly have absorbant that is good against every weapon the enemy has that is a canon, except he which is in chemistry.

    So basicly best armor resist wise.
    Best weapons are in chemistry ( 2 slots ) and best engine heavy tank wise that works for most players.

    Reactive has reactive armor that just sucks cause everything in reactive is heavy. 3phase is only thing you'd even try getting since it's good on certain maps, level 3 turrets can only be used as tactic with capable comm and players.

    physics is shit cause you basicly go du and ranged but the engine in their overheats like hell. reflective is kind of good against missiles but need more buff against it.

    Bio is just op since bio mg is good against every armor except bio itself.

    basicly you go chemistry or bio cause the rest is shit.

    like the counter tree just doesnt work.

    if you want to fix research completely redo it, cause right now it'll stay fucked for ever.
     
  15. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    What would happen if all categories(Chemistry, Bio, Physics, Electrical, Mechanical) were free/very cheap and very fast to research?
    Just throwing it out there.
     
  16. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    everyone would still go the same pathways like they are right now cause op stays op
     
  17. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    what fundamentally is broken cant be fixed with tweeks. change it at its building stones.
     
  18. Beerdude26

    Beerdude26 OnThink(){ IsDownYet(); }

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    Paradox, I don't want to sound negative here, but redoing the entire research tree is a lot of work. Feel free to spearhead the effort and cobble together a team, the Empires Wiki has extensive information on all the scripts available :)
     
  19. complete_

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    in the stock scripts? im not talking about rc3 scripts. why would i mention everyone going absorbant if i was alluding to your scripts.

    start from stock, do small changes and thats it. if noone wants to test your large changes to armour and engines then forget it.

    to clarify, i like the rc3 scripts. tone down vehicle speed and compo regen and i think it'd be fine (until we find a glaring flaw like we do every script overhaul)
     
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  20. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    I'm not saying I'm going to redo it or anyone should, but I'm just pointing out the tree as of right now cant be fixed cause the roots are fucked.
     

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