Rank 40 Bonuses

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  1. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    We boosted mortar reload speed. I don't know if it's changeable midgame but, let's be honest, we're all just speculating anyway. And I think out of the 2 ideas I had, the reloading one is certainly the weaker one, I'm sure there are better ideas. And yeah, my idea for the RPG would simple be to right click to turn homing on or off.
     
  2. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    tbh i always wondered why u cant just play the animation faster and if needs be interpolate ...
     
  3. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    The model has to be recompiled.
     
  4. Grantrithor

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    Gren: RPGs do more damage to tanks, and for every 10 points after the 40 rank they get a small percentage increase in the damage.

    Rifleman: Armor protects better against bullets, and for every 10 points after the 40 rank they get a small percentage increase in the resistance.
     
  5. Empty

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    Homing RPGs would be terrible. You can't direct your rocket at a moving tank to secure a hit, you have to lead your shot.
     
  6. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    Left click guided, right click homing ?
     
  7. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Passive bonuses are shit. "Oh I take 5% less damage". It doesn't work into strategy, and whatever we added, should.
     
  8. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    You mean it doesn't complicate gameplay? Yeah, that's a problem that needs attention.
     
  9. -Mayama-

    -Mayama- MANLY MAN BITCH

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    Passive bonuses are not fun, at least thats what most game designers agree on. It only makes the player better at something he can do anyway, means no motivation or exitement about it.
     
  10. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    I agree that passive bonuses are pretty meh.

    However, Empires has a horrendous track record of teaching new players. The game has conflicting gameplay mechanics that yield unintuitive strategies among other things.

    To tack on yet another mechanic is just silly. Yes, it's not fair that engies and scouts get a rank 40 bonus, but the concept of a rank 40 bonus is terrible in and of itself. If anything, rank 40 bonuses should be removed entirely.
     
  11. Empty

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    Fuck you, 2 turrets is amazingly fun.
     
  12. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    3 turrets is also fun. Why is there a limit of 2?
     
  13. Empty

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    3 wouldn't be an issue really, except on infantry maps.

    It's nothing your commander/teammates can't do.
     
  14. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    limit it to 2 mgs and you can have an extra ML for ever 2 levels past 4th rank. done :)
     
  15. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    I was being sarcastic.

    Just because something is fun (for one player) doesn't mean it's a good idea.

    As a whole, rank 40 bonuses are a bad idea.
     
  16. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    except for increased crit chance ;)
     
  17. harryhoot1

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    Changing the reload speed and then compiling the model isn't that hard, but I don't know if you could change the reload speed during the game like you said.

    Maybe change the rifleman weapon model with the normal reload speed to the weapon model with the faster reload speed when the rifleman gets 40 points.

    ODST smg replacing BE smg1:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2940017/odstsmg.rar
     
  18. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    One of the issues I've had is that it doesn't seem to work on every model. It worked on mortar (and NFHR, which I should commit at some point, given that it's been sat on my PC for over a year), but no matter how many different ways I did it, I could never manage to speed up the NF Shotgun Pistol reload time.
     
  19. Empty

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    You could just change the reload code.
     
  20. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    thats what i meant, why is there a variable you can set in scripts, if it doesnt alter reload spead? if its unwanted you should be able to pull it from the animation aswell and the variable is redundant ...
    unless ofc this is some source oddity, then i "understand" ;)
     

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