First, the egregious offenders: emp_escort emp_crossroads emp_money And, in a perfect world, we could do without these as well: emp_district402 (haha it's like 420 but not haha - no ) emp_urbanchaos emp_glycencity (if this started out with half as many tickets and it didn't feel like you're staring at a lightbulb for 30 minutes, it just might be enjoyable, maybe) Yes, I know you spent countless hours making these maps and they're your babies and yada yada BUT CMON! The other maps are SO much more fun. Can't you take the hint that people like fluid gameplay, and not hour long grudge matches (which is exactly what all of these maps create)? It wouldn't be a problem if admins gave two shits about what people thought. Unfortunately, they just host whatever the devs consider the standard map cycle. To be honest, I think they like hosting whatever crappy maps they feel like just to prove that they can make us play stuff we don't want to play. And not to be entirely negative - emp_isle and emp_dustorm are amazing maps. Isle especially. I think it's the best map for the mod. Kudos to the guys who designed that one.
So we have to remove half the maps... And why do you have such a dislike for infantry only? It's a nice refreshing break from barking/getting barked at. If you want some different maps in the cycle, please begin making maps in a kind and inoffensive manner.
Can't say i agree with removing those maps, some of them can be annoying (glycencity comes to mind) MORE LIKE GLYCENSHITTY AMIRITE?! But i do agree that isle is the shissle fo shissle.
REMOVE ALL THE MAPS THAT ARE IN ANY WAY DIFFERENT. DISCOURAGE OTHER THAN THE APPROVED GAMEPLAY. INFANTRY COMBAT IS FOR PUSSIES. EMPIRES IS PLAYED BY BUILDING THINGS WITH COMMANDER TO TAKE FLAGS AND BLOW UP COMMANDER. And then the game will complete.
Yes, all the empires server admins have secretly signed a pact to force you to play maps you don't like. If you don't like certain maps then you don't have to play them. If you don't like any of the current servers, host your own.
But seriously people, emp_money. I could do without the other infantry maps, but that's a matter of personal preference. Money sucks, though. There are much much better maps in the mapping forum that rarely/ever see play. Seriously, the game's server code should check to see if you're running emp_money and not emp_midbridge, and if both are true it should just commit suicide and crash all over itself. My understanding is that emp_money was never even meant for real play; it was created as a way to test Empire's resource usage with large numbers of tanks. It isn't supposed to be any fun. Yet servers everywhere still have it for some reason.
If people don't want to play it then it wouldn't be in the rotation, becuase the server would empty every time it came on.
Crossroads and Money, get that shit out of hurrr Infantry maps can be boring or they can be a load of fun, it depends on who is all playing
The problem is that it's fairly rare for there to be more than a few other servers with players in them to choose from (depending on when you play, maybe even none.) I hate Money, but it's better than not playing Empires at all or playing it single-player, which are generally the alternatives.
I'm sorry, but those maps are all very doable if you have a lot of skill and have a highly skilled team aswell.
I personally hate escort , but thats because its either a BE suck or NF suck match(or just half of BE is sniping) 3lvlroads - this map can be playable in 2.2 ,where "turrets on top" are gone but now it should be removed. Money, ye its the most boring map ever. district and urbanchaos - both are boooooooring and nearly one route maps that are dominted by lvl3's , but urban sucks evem more with all those stupid walls. Imo engy buildables should be removed (cameras maybe not). And one more thing that is annoying about dist is nadespam(i dont think that this can be fixed) glycen - imo good map, not only 1 route , not many lvl3's and you can find cover everywhere.(only bad thing is that nf is stacked sometimes) money-die Xroads-die, but can be rez'd when 2.2 comes out (if it comes out ) District-die Urban-die even more my 2 cents edit Beer, dont you think that "higly skilled team"(without stacking) is kinda hard to archieve today? Pubs are not league servers...
Essentially you guys want to remove literally half the maps. Although I must agree with money. We should lynch it.
Money - It's good it's probaly the one of the few maps where theres are good long game going on, Even if the teams are stacked (but not too much :p ) District402 - Needs more development buildings are too dark can't see people inside needs some lights. More Alternative routes and less boxes where people could place Turrets. (make cover but not boxes) (sandbags could help) GlycenCity - Less Tickets for each team. Crossroads - Fine as it is (problem I heard will be fixed in the next patch about turrets and ladders blocking), What I honestly like about crossroads it's the symetricalness in it, It's not an uneven map very fair. Escort - (Yes This is discussed in another thread) BE starts with lower Tickets than gain more when capturing flags. To reduce big wait time if BE sucks. UrbanChaos - Fine as it is, Not much changes needed. Needs a light up XD!
I downloaded money with 2.1 so it's there by default. Binboy, NO Money sucks, the only people who like it are shitty tank drivers who can actually get a kill because they have infinite rail heavies and couldn't miss if they tried.
I love crossroads, its a awesome map :D :D :D and on glycen and urban i had some of my best games. The problem with this maps is that you automaticaly lose if your team sucks. You need even teams (skillwise) to get really good games or else it becomes a target practise. Crossroad is a good example: You say turrets rule on crossroads I say mortar rules turrets you say rifleman rules gren and I say turrets own rifleman You need a perfectly balanced team on crossroad to be effective and that is the reason why most teams suck on it.
I actually like money.. When in a light tank and having great battles. Restrict rails and nukes on it and you could surley put up a fight. and ye, go make maps! Do you know how boring it is to play the same maps over and over? To remove half the maps.. Damn. Mcvalley, Mcvalley Mcvalley all day long!
I know money comes with 2.1, but it's not in the default mapcycle, unless admins add it to the list, it shouldn't be there.
