League Season 2

Discussion in 'Clans' started by Evan, Jan 31, 2008.

  1. Coffeeburrito

    Coffeeburrito Coder

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    Basically, ELO makes it so that there are diminishing returns on beating lower ranked clans as your own rank increases. To maintain a steady increase, you need to compete against clans of similar high rank. Alternatively, a high ranked clan has more to lose by losing to a lower ranked clan than a similar ranked clan, and the lower ranked clan has much more to gain.

    With regards to the league not organizing matches, I don't think it's a valid complaint. Only clans can say when they will be available. For the league to impose a predetermined date/time, it raises the odds of a clan having to forfeit by default, which isn't what we want.
     
  2. Cyber-Kun

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    That is normally why you can only challenge people in your own ranking.
    Simple fix.
     
  3. MOOtant

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    There is no need to fix anything.
     
  4. Mr. Weedy

    Mr. Weedy I will report bugs on the bug tracker

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    Says the one who isn't in any clan.
     
  5. MOOtant

    MOOtant Member

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  6. Cyber-Kun

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    By fix, I mean make a rule.
    A clan can not fight a clan X points ahead of them unless the higher ranked clan wants to.
    Something along them lines.
    I don't want the new clans getting to fight the best clans there is.
    Work your way up.
     
  7. Beerdude26

    Beerdude26 OnThink(){ IsDownYet(); }

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    That's a pretty silly rule if implemented, but I guess you can just do a match outside the league against them so no worries
     
  8. Cyber-Kun

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    Well the reason for it, is lower clans could easily challenge the higher ranking clans.
    The lower rank clan, if they loose, loose barely any points.
    If the higher ranked clan loose, they loose tons while the smaller clan gains tons.
    If the higher rank clans wins, they barely gain any points.

    Lower ranked clans should always fight the higher ranked clans for they have everything to gain and nothing to loose.
     
  9. the_6th_monkey

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    This is just going to end up with a league where the lower teams never get a game against the higher teams because why would thehigher teams want to fight a lower team for less points...

    :rolleyes:
     
  10. Cyber-Kun

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    The point is: The clans that start as a lower rank if they good, they will become a higher rank and get to fight people just as good they are.
     
  11. Carnifex

    Carnifex Member

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  12. Evan

    Evan League Commissioner

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    The answer to this is simple: You don't HAVE to fight anyone. You can turn down any matches you want. No one is forced to fight anyone. You get no points by fighting no one.
     
  13. rampantandroid

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    Until one clan gets ranked high enough that only one clan can fight them...if we were dealing with a league of 50 teams, I'd agree with this rule...in a league with at mot 10 clans, I see no real need for it.
     
  14. the_6th_monkey

    the_6th_monkey Member

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    To be honest I'd like to play as many clans as possible and not get stuck in games with peeps at the same level. If there was more clans it would be possible, but as it is it will just end up with the nearest clans fighting each other will just become repetitive :eek:
     
  15. Evan

    Evan League Commissioner

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    Agreed.
     
  16. MOOtant

    MOOtant Member

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    That's silly. Only you could invent that.

    1."Best clan" is something that should change often and shouldn't be very stable.
    2. New clans can't do anything.
    3. Old ("good") clans get bored and play with themselves only.
    4. It's a bit arbitrary.
    5. For fucks sake you join the league to play not to get your "best clan" award. Best clan has to worry a lot not to lose their position.

    Now why is it good:

    1. New clans will quickly get points after joining the league (if they win with one of the best clans).
    2. More matches.

    It may be needed to make negative scores for losing with far better clans. But that's just a random idea that should be thought about when season 2 ends.
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2008
  17. Cyber-Kun

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    I thought that you would be forced into fighting like League 1.
    As it is not how it is, my point is mute. I could try to defend it, but it would be useless now.
     
  18. Evan

    Evan League Commissioner

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    Scheduling or "forcing" clans to fight would over-complicate things. If a clan wants to have matches that count toward their overall ranking, they should schedule league matches with other league clans.
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2008
  19. Cyber-Kun

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    No, I just thought clans need to fight people like once every two weeks if someone wanted to fight them.
    While is would make it more complicated it would stop clans from refusing to fight other clans if that ever happened.
     
  20. Evan

    Evan League Commissioner

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    You're right that it would force clans to participate. I'm not sure that's a good thing. They (and their score) can stagnate if they decide to quit.
     

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