Empires video quality on youtube

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  1. Silk

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    Update 19/03/2013 (deleted the entire post, and added my personal final conclusion)

    I wrote down the method i'll be using to record empires video's: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f2Gxn3qASuTTfo04EfprgPHWmGenPaqvZFgBy33R8JM/edit?usp=sharing

    In short:
    For general action/gameplay video's i use Fraps, and to compress the fraps video's i use virtualdub. The exact settings i used are in the link. For 1080 gameplay vids i use a Ratefactor of 23
    For map flythrougs (all from freeroam spectatormode) i use the Source record console command. I smooth the path in the demo editor and compress it with virtual dub as well. I use a Ratefactor of 18 for this.

    I keep ALL my video's on my hard drive for at least a few years (unless i make a shitload of movies). Since they are all recorded and compressed in the same way, i can use all these video's for montages later on.

    This video was created with this method using those settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC0HVOlGylM
    As you can see the quality is good
    It is 1.46 GB for 25 minutes though, but i can recommend this quality because a) Youtube still compresses it a but further and 2) You can always make it smaller in the future, but you can never make it more detailed again
     
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  2. MOOtant

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    Youtube gives hints somewhere but I haven't really tried. You have to do everything to avoid double encode. You have to either record directly to final H.264 or record to uncompressed video, encode to H.264 and send it to youtube.

    Try vimeo, maybe they're more predictable about transcoding.
     
  3. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Jephir is pretty experienced with this kind of thing, he should be able to help.
     
  4. Jephir

    Jephir ALL GLORY TO THE JEPHIR

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    You can get pixel-perfect video on YouTube by matching their encoding specifications.

    If the encoding doesn't match, the video will look blocky like in the comparison screenshot. The video should also only be encoded once; if encoded multiple times the quality will drop significantly.

    My setup is to record with FRAPS in lossless mode. Then I encode using Avidemux with MPEG-4 AVC video, AAC audio, and MP4 container. I leave all the settings at default except for the AAC bitrate, which I set to 384 kbps to match YouTube's specification.

    The end result should look like this.
     
  5. Silk

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    Thanks a lot all of you

    I'll give that a go

    I was using virtualdub for this, and following the advice on the valve wiki i had chosen xvid for compression.

    I'll try your settings with avidemux next :)
     
  6. Silk

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    That's typical ... the source engine generates tga files, which avidemux can't open ...
     
  7. complete_

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    well since jephir brough up fraps, i might as well ask this:

    theres gotta be something wrong with my fraps settings, since all my videos have less color than the original source. see my example, left is a screenshot, right is a fraps video
    [​IMG]
     
  8. OMEN

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    stop playing sad depressing maps.
     
  9. ViroMan

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    4k?? Jesus...who can do that?
     
  10. Jephir

    Jephir ALL GLORY TO THE JEPHIR

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    I get that same issue, but it's caused by video compression, not Fraps. But if you think Fraps is causing it, you can trying enabling "Force lossless RGB capture" in the Movies tab. Also disable "Monitor Aero desktop" under General to make sure that Fraps is recording the game using its color correction settings.
     
  11. Silk

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  14. Lawliet

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    Yo. I'm comming that 4th video. Pro comm over here.
     
  15. Silk

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    The hell ... the third one didn't look like that at all at first ...

    I'm guessing the changes made by youtube took a lot longer to get added than i thought. When the message "video is being processed, check back later" disappeared i figured it was done.

    Apparantly it wasn't ...

    Which side?
    I have recorded the entire match, just haven't processed it completely yet
     
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  16. complete_

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    #3 is frag video worthy
     
  17. Grantrithor

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    Watching that gave me a migraine, CAUSE IM XXX BITCH TRIPLE X RATED.
     
  18. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    wub wub wub wub wuuuuuuuub
     
  19. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    We should upload every video with YouTube smoothing. I think it makes it look awesome.

    Fuck, just put it in the game. Everyone will want to play it.
     
  20. D.D.D. Destroyer

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    To be honest #3 is probably what Empires looks like to the majority of the community.

    Because they're drunk! Get it? Get it?
     

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