The Politics Thread

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  1. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    wow thats pretty insulting to tangerines, you fruitist ;)
     
  2. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    How does the American people feel about the whitehouse/trump making up, like completely fantasizing 3 terrorist attacks? Atlanta, sweden, bowling green.

    I wonder how kidpaler is going to defend this.
    Paging dr @Kidpaler. I wanna know if you support this or are not ok with lying about that
     
  3. Kidpaler

    Kidpaler Member

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    Kelly Anne did bowling Green.

    But anyway, there are stories behind these and every time they "misspeak" the media always brings out how they are wrong but this other thing happened, IE 2 terrorists were arrested who were going to kill people in Bowling Green. So, the message still got across and the otherwise unknown arrests became national news overnight. I really do think this is all planned out ahead of time and them misspeaking is seriously just them bringing to light issues and getting it national coverage.

    I do hate lying though, but this has been a pattern throughout his campaign and it is what brought him so much attention and the media still falls for it.
     
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  4. A-z-K

    A-z-K Member

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    He's awful and you know it. It's just a matter of time until everyone realises he's not the breath of fresh air they wanted.
    But at least he's not Hillary right.
     
  5. Kidpaler

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    He's not awful. That's your opinion.

    So far, he has come through on a lot of his campaign promises. You CAN like and dislike certain parts of a person.
     
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  6. A-z-K

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    He's awful.
     
  7. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    This might sound like an odd comment, but I don't see how going through with campaign promises is actually a good thing. At least, I would rather say something like" his ideas are wonderful and are getting accepted" instead of "he's doing things he said he would do, what an amazing guy". Feels kinda... meh.
     
  8. Kidpaler

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    Well, it is amazing since it SEEMS most presidents don't go through with it. Obviously I liked the ideas because I voted for him and I thought that'd be implied. Apologies.

    Again, AZK, that is your opinion.
     
  9. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    I know it was kelly thats why i said whitehouse/DT. And bowling green wasnt planning shit. Read up on it.
     
  10. Space_Oddity

    Space_Oddity The Shitstorm

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    The people arrested were arms dealers for terrorists.

    I used to believe that this misinformation, empty publicism grovelling, blatant dictionary-definition fascism, were just some sort of cover for a larger plan that involves golf courses and evicting poor people. From reading and watching press conferences we can now be sure that either:

    1. Trump is flailing, trying to cover his ass, wondering what the hell he's even doing and is an utter fucking idiot.
    2. Trump actually believes what he's saying and is therefore an utter fucking idiot.

    The manipulation during his campaign might have been considered Machiavellian but now he's showing his true colours.

    *Colour.

    (It's orange.)
     
  11. A-z-K

    A-z-K Member

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    A.w.f.u.l
     
  12. Space_Oddity

    Space_Oddity The Shitstorm

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    If he's in awe then it's an objective fact.
     
  13. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    I understand what kidpaler is saying to an extent. I just find it a disgrace if he actually plans to lie. It seems very disgusting to force your oppinions upon others by the means of lying. If he was truthful yes. But lying to make other people believe its the truth. Thats despicable.
     
  14. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    Also why is trump allowed to talk about sweden? Does ge live in sweden? He doesnt know wht goes on in the hearts and minds of innocent swedes like lordz who make amazing maps that get played too little.
     
  15. A-z-K

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    Trump is making good on his election promises, like "draining the swamp" (by adding even more morally devoid, profiteering financial elites) & imprisoning his political adversaries (by doing nothing of the sort). Still, at least he's building the wall that Mexico are going to pay for (even if it is some kind of yet to be discussed, make-believe way that only apologists could entertain as paying).
     
  16. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    I understand why he wants to be friends with putin now, he wants to rule as he does and he needs some tips.

    Helping his friends get richer, classic putin.
    Maiming/silencing his political enemies, classic putin.

    It makes sense now.
     
  17. Señor_Awesome

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    There's no plan here. There's no intentional misspeaking. You can tell yourself what you want.

    Our president literally gets his information from Fox News. Which, by the way, might as well itself be a misunderstanding of both the pronunciation and spelling of 'Faux News'.
     
  18. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    copy paste cause hilarious

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    The right loves to pretend Europe is under some kind of failed state and under shariah law. It's kind of a pornography with them.

    Population of Chicago - 2.79 million

    Chicago homicides in 2016 - 750 homicides

    Population of the UK - 65 million

    UK homicides in 2016 - 574 homicides

    You could add about another 7 european countries and it wouldn't hit the homicides in Chicago. With remarks like Trump has made why are our politicians not shitting all over their country and publically calling the US a failed state?

    edit

    Norway - 23

    Bosnia(not exactly known for its stability), pop 3.5 mil, 41 homicides

    Spain - 292 homicides - 46.5 million habitants

    Edit 2Not just Chicago.

    New york is a population of 8 million and had 354 murders last year. You could fit about 7 european countries fewer than 354 homicides and a population of arround 40 million. Take any US city and its murder rate is shocking compared to the rest of the first world.

    Now I don't care about Americans tbh but when their president is running around portraying Europe as some kind of hellhole I think its only fair we respond in kind.

    Maybe we could set up some european commision staffed by twitter trolls that tweet these statistics to Trump each time he makes a bullshit, illinformed comment on our countries.

    "Dumb orange yankee sex offender making up terrorist attack stories again while theres lead in the drinking water and the US homicide rate nationally is 4 times that of the rest of the 1st world #sad!" "


    "I have heard Americans try to justify that. usually "oh that is just in certain ghetto areas" or "that would mainly be gang related". As if Europe has no poor areas or gang problems!"
     
  19. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    we dont need an european commision for that, the us press is calling out trump on his lies alternative facts anyway. but that doesnt change anything, because its mainstream media to those who prefer postfactual bullshit that supports their views.
     
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  20. Kidpaler

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    I'm only going to respond to you because you seem to be the only one able to understand what I am trying to say.

    Yea, it is disgraceful but I noticed this during his primary campaign and throughout the election. He says something "wrong" and the media goes crazy saying "TRUMP IS WRONG TRUMP IS WRONG" and then they report on what actually happened, which still isn't good. It brings awareness to an issue. It is bad, but he has played the media in full I think.

    Also, regarding Chicago and New York, yea the murder rates are bad. However, when something is trying to be done about it it is portrayed as "POLICE STATE!" IE Trump wanting to send in the feds to deal with it since the Chicago PD can't keep up with the murders. I have seen articles portraying Trump as a dictator for wanting to send in feds to the city which has an insanely high amount of homicides. So he wants to do something about it and is blasted for wanting to do something about it... Also, regarding Chicago and don't quote me on it, but I believe most of that is Gang violence. Chicago is a gun free city and I know whenever we would go visit there are the certain areas you avoid because there are lots of gangs in that area.

    Again, the reason that the Media has lost credibility to most American's is their own damn fault. Media has spouted tons of "fake news" as well during times when they shouldn't have, so now everyone is suspicious about everything. That's at least my take from talking to the people I know, no one trusts the Media it seems even if they are liberal.

    Edit: I personally blame the high crime rate in the big cities due to the crumbling infrastructure. Hell, in Detroit there are neighborhoods without street lights which deter crime, there are cities in the US drinking shitty water. This all would lead to a higher crime rate. Our inter-cities are terrible here compared to Europe, from what I can tell. Sure there are the nicer parts of the inter-cities but travel outside of that and you better lock your car doors and not stop at any stop signs.* In certain parts.

    And to tack on one last thing, the crime rate fell dramatically in New York during Guiliani's and Bloomberg's time as Mayor when they had the "Stop and Frisk" policies enforced which might have helped or might not have, some studies say it didn't.
     
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