The Politics Thread

I was suggesting that she just had a particularly retarded way of saying "we have information to the contrary."

Edit: Fuck that. Apparently she continues to use the phrase. Dumbass lady.

 

Jesus Fucking Christ.

Apparently an Anti-Trump prison riot at a max security prison has taken 4 hostage. Edit: After researching it more I have little idea what they want/how many hostages they have. One guy was on the phone and said he wanted money for education. Unsure if this is one of those stupid for profit prisons or not.

UC Berkley had a huge riot with the "Antifa" movement beating Trump supporters, looting a bank, starbucks etc while police were told to stand down by the mayor to "stand against Trump".

And California is apparently moving more towards "Calexit"... but that won't ever happen.


People wonder why I think the Republicans are going to win the next midterm and pick up even more seats. These are the reasons. You can't call someone a nazi and then go about beating people up with different beliefs, looting buildings, damaging people's private property because they disagree, and storming events to get them to stop. That is literally what the brownshirts did.

Edit: It's only a matter of time until a shooting happens during one of these events and both sides return fire. This is NOT going to end well.

 

Going to need some not-fake sources there.

You still got that image handy?

 

"We’re trying to explain the reasons is for doing what we’re doing. Donald Trump. Everything that he did. All the things that he’s doing now. We know that the institution is going to change for the worse. We know the institution is going to change for the worse. We got demands that you need to pay attention to, that you need to listen to and you need to let them know. Education, we want education first and foremost. We want a rehabilitation program that works for everybody. We want the money to be allocated so we can know exactly what is going on in the prison, the budget."

http://heavy.com/news/2017/02/smyrn...ds-photos-video-audio-call-injuries-stabbing/

 

Here is the prison riot

Here is from the NYpost about the Berkley Riots.

Them chasing and beating people (Some of them are good people and make sure the people down don't get further beaten).

Twitter video of people getting beaten, notice the "Antifa" flags in the background.

A nice "THIS IS WAR" Banner.

Edit: There is also plenty of other videos and photos out there of this event, such as when they STORMED the building that Milo was in and he had to be evacuated.


Also, the AP ran a story saying Trump wanted to "Send Troops" to mexico to make them submit... Mexican President even confirmed this wasn't the case.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-pol-trump-mexico-call-20170201-story.html

http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-trump-20170201-story.html

Regarding taking out the Cartel. This is just absolute insanity to spin something like that.

 

He said it in regards to taking away funding to a college in California. The Delaware Prison riot is COMPLETELY unrelated. He wants to take away their federal funding because the college, a STATE FUNDED institution that receives over 50% of it's funds from the US government, isn't an open campus for all sides of the spectrum to be discussed because even the mayor stands against Trump and won't do much about these stupid riots.

My point is this though, the brownshirts beat up the jews. The Antifa group beats up Trump supporters. The brownshirts looted businesses, antifa group is looting businesses. Brownshirts stopped the political opposition from holding rallies/events by storming them, this "antifa" group is storming rallies/events to get them to shut down.

Obviously they aren't literal nazi's and I am not trying to imply that, but you h ave to admit it is a tad bit hypocritical for them to "stand against facism" and then do similar things as the fascists.

Edit: Especially when American's take pride in "Freedom of Speech" and allowing crazies from both sides to voice their opinion, this does NOT bode well with the general populace. This turns people off from the "Liberal cause" and will only push more and more people to the right. Why do I say this because you will say "Oh it's just a small group of people", not really considering Hillary's VP choice said Democrats have to "Fight in the streets" against Trump... Yea he was talking about rallies, but seriously the word choice of "fight in the streets" and then we have people literally fighting in the streets.

 

Both extreme ends of both parties are a bunch of idiots.







The problem is the republican extreme end is the president

 

Yea, no he's not. There are far far far far far worse people that could be President.

Also, it's normalized by the Democratic party for the left to be extreme.

Edit: What you guys THINK is the political left in America is not so anymore. It used to be. But now it is what happened in Berkely. They are regarded as "Crybabies" who have to get their way and riot when they don't. They used to stand for workers rights, but now they stand for the person with the Gender Studies degree that went to a private university to lecture people on how women are getting the short end of the stick in everything.

 

And the knocked out guy? Cause he totally fainted right?

Wrong wording on my part. It was suppose to be a general "Antifa" image. Apologies.

Okay so the burning in the streets, trashed buildings and people that were beaten up means nothing because you see a small minority of people? Cool.

Edit: This is from Breitbart, but at least they show videos. Another angle of that "Girl" getting beaten by the minority.

 

My whole point is, if they want to even come close to winning Midterms in two years, they need to knock this off right now. This is further driving people to the right, especially because the second you don't 100% agree with a liberal's policies they immediately call you a nazi or fascist... that turns people off. Hard.

Protest all you want, don't be violent about it.

Edit: @flasche They also, ALLEGEDLY, beat that man with a shovel while he was down. I don't see video of it but apparently that was the case.

Also, the cities Police department apparently released a statement saying they can confirm people were being dragged from their cars and beaten. Wouldn't surprise me because I did see video of people vandalizing cars trying to get out of there. A white car rammed through the crowd or protesters as well.

 

Well, considering the intention was to shut down the event, all of them. That is a fear tactic they are using to try to push an "agenda". As I said, a couple people were nice enough to help out the people who were downed, but from the videos and pictures, it doesn't look like to many people were there "peacefully".

Edit: Freedom of speech and the right to assemble is the #1 thing I think most Americans support. Shutting down even the oppositions right to this REALLY makes people skeptical of who they support if their side did it. Not to mention it scares people from the center to the side that was the victim. This happened a while ago in Anaheim when a KKK rally got stopped and the members of the KKK got stabbed when they were exercising their right to peacefully assemble. They got a LOT of sympathy from pretty much everyone, even people who disagreed with them because it is their right.

 

I think that Trump Supporters haven't really done that much. We have seen this violence from the left from the beginning of Trump's run and even before that. All the "BLM" bullshit that resulted in destruction of businesses all supported by the left. People blocking highways etc. Yea Trump may have influenced it a little, but it was well there before he entered the political atmosphere.

Edit: This is where European and American values differ. If you are not willing to stand up for the rights of those you disagree with, you do not hold the value of Free Speech, you hold the value of speech you want to hear. While I hate the KKK, their right to protest and hold rallies is the same as mine.

Also, Milo isn't a fascist. Milo is a gay republican who has supported Trump and calls feminists and other leftists out for acts exactly like what happened at Berkeley.

Regarding the de-funding of the university, I think while it is collective punishment, it could set a precedent. Basically, instead of creating "safe spaces" and calling "racism" when an English teacher corrects you on your grammar, this would allow for ideas to be challenged on campus. Currently, if you are a Republican or hold a different view, you keep it to yourself because you can get punished for "offending" someone or ruining their "safe space".

 

In the US, hate is an opinion. We treat it as such. Again, this is where your values differ from ours and I stand by everyone's right to peacefully protest no matter if they are Communist, Fascist, KKK, or whatever. Everyone has the right to assemble and this should NOT be stopped for one group but then allowed for another. Tolerance of the oppositions belief creates a mutual respect among everyone and allows for all views to be challenged at any time.

Hell, on campus every year we have the "hate preacher" come and tell us about how we are all going to hell, being gay is going to cause satan to shove his dick up you, and how everyone is a terrible person and if you don't repent immediately you deserve to die. Every year. This year though, he was escorted off by Campus police because he "offended" someone.