as simple rule of thumb, if you cant drive there you are not supposed to get there, the killbrush is there to punish exploiteres, but, even though i should have known better, i didnt consider the griefing capabilities ... lamer! sigh :D also as you can see on the following images the killbrush isnt as low as you make it appear. (nfcv for scale) this is the hill in base ... and this is the hill on the other side of those buildings in center im not sure how to fix, i wont let you get on the next level cliffs, you could run from base to base up there. and im not turning it into a "nubs dont know how to exploit, lets mine ourselfs up where the cv is safe" map - especially not the "base plateau" (though you can get up from both sides, the rocks on the outside are placed so that you can climb them with walls - but careful, you can get stuck iirc), but i will enable you to drive up there (from the inside) in the next version anyway. but as a rule of thumb cvs or actually any vehicles are not supposed to go anywhere you cannot drive to. infantry is not supposed to get anywhere they cant wallclimb to.