Remove the Scout Rifle or Empires Dies

ITT Spartacus acts like he knows shit:


Protip: Spartacus does not know shit.

 

He is going to move the sniper rifle to the rifleman class.
Then scouts third weapon will be replaced with the shotgun.

This is arguably a better solution to compared to removing it, because after failing to get any kills with the weapon they will feel compelled to switch to one of the automatic rifles.

Unless the weapon will get a buff so people will no longer waste time trying to get 1 kill.
Then it can be an effective weapon.

 

A-ha. I only remembered the post where he dryly says that the rifle is never going away.

I already covered that scenario in the initial post:

 

Well, maybe we should attempt to examine the reasons why newbies feel compelled to use the sniper rifle instead of merely taking that as a patently obvious fact.

 

Whatever the reason is, I think it's too systemic for a single mod to fix.

 

So the supposed solution to people camping and sniping is to give the sr to the riflemen?
Clearly the solution to the problem lies in giving snipers bullet resistance and grenades.


ffs what have i just read

 

Empires can't deal with players like that. This is a team sport. We simply can't support lone wolves and it's too easy to go into lone wolf mode when you have a long rifle.

 

I like my lone jeep wolfing. ):

 

The problem with people using the scout rifle has always been hide. People want to sit there, super stealthy, and pick people off from miles away. Empires does not provide good natural terrain camo, it's not difficult to see where you're getting shot from, so hide makes a big difference.

Take hide away and it'll make sniping a lot more difficult. Most of the time, the people using the scout rifle are just going to get mad and take a rifle instead. That's my hope either way. I don't want to make the weapon totally useless, but I do want to discourage the use of it.

 

When my team is shit I lonewolf as scout with SMG and slay refineries.

Lonewolfing as an engineer to destroy uninhabited bases and refineries as well as harassing turret lines is an excellent tactic that everyone should learn and know when to apply.

Gren is a lonewolf class too imo, his ability to annihilate enemies in 1v1 makes him excellent for harassing infantry and getting mines in enemy turf is DELICIOUS

 

*Security Approved*

Lonewolfing is a part of teamwork.
Besides in pubber game, teamworking, success or not, isn't really much funnier than lonewolfing around.

 

I definitely do my share of grunt work, sitting behind walls dispensing ammo and helping my team out, but there comes a time where the best option is lonewolf it up. Sometimes a 1man front in an unexpected place can do a shit ton more damage than a 5 man front anywhere.

 

The Law of Empires Teamwork

In the long run, if and only if your team practices more teamwork, your team will always win.​

This is consistent with all of your bitching. Your tiny examples mean nothing in the long term. Your pub examples are also worthless. Learn to rational thought.

 

Um no, the team that can succesfully kill the enemy commander will win.

That's one of empires' greatest flaws in my opinion, the command vehicle means everything. I really hate matches where a team is decimated and outplayed at every turn, then wins with an APC rush because the other team couldn't killspawn fast enough.

I find those games unsatisfying as fuck, even if I'm on the team that APC rushed.

 

Emphasis added.

It's more complicated than that. I feel embarrassed that I even have to mention this to a player so much my senior. The team that can coordinate between capturing&defending resources, attacking the com and defending their com will win. That's Empires.