Remove the Scout Rifle or Empires Dies

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by ImSpartacus, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    Scouts are powerful as fuck for taking down a base. 10 mortars to take down a barracks, about 4 if a scout sabs it first.
     
  2. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Too many people are just assuming any new scout stuff will be dropped in as is. If Scout is going to get new shit, ever, then he's getting a total overhaul, so you can't apply current gameplay issues with him to future situations, because they're not applicable.
     
  3. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    Then in the mean time, remove the fucking scout rifle and save Empires. Be a hero.
     
  4. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Scout Rifle isn't getting removed. At any point.
     
  5. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    Its good to see some explanation as to why after seeing how most of the community over the past 5 years loathed it.
     
  6. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Problem with the Scout Rifle has always been Hide, not the rifle itself. Take from that what you will.
     
  7. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    Then play more pubs. You'll change your tune after getting fucked over by the scout rifle.

    Actually, I never really see you in a pub. If you want to save Empires, you need to understand the reasons that public games suck. The scout rifle is a big issue, but it isn't the only one.
     
  8. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    How exactly was hide ever the problem with sr?
    Hide is fucking uselss on big maps where sr is that gay, even if you know where the enemy is, the only way to kill-counter him is to get sr's of your own.
    Hide is gay when you get people sticking to 4 surfaces , getting invisible and sablocking a vital building.
     
  9. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    Mhmm, this. I'm interested in learning how hide makes a difference in enormous Empires maps.

    And why do we even need a sniper rifle?
     
  10. Reznov

    Reznov Member

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    360n0sc0pez. *dubstep empires 360n0sc0pez montage*

    ... i hope no one took this serious ...
     
  11. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    Paradox did.

    oldfags like myself boats about finding gamebreaking glitches and new meta.
    Paradox found a way to no scope faster.

    yeey to you.
     
  12. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    I call bullshit on this one, you don't get killed in one shot and after just one you should realise that you should probably take cover, or better yet, get walls and stuff because there are obviously engineers around you as you know how to play this and stick with a group of teammates.

    I can agree to this, except enhanced senses are a thing, so you can still find the scout with limited effort. Then again with the overhaul coming, infinite hide will cease to be a thing.
     
  13. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    "kill-counter" also readable as permament solution.
     
  14. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    Because you can't advance with sporadic sniper hits or get out of the enemy's line of sight. Or get a vehicle to hard-counter the rifle. Or fire at said scout with mortars/nades/rifleman rifles.
     
  15. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    That was not the point D.
     
  16. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    Not everything must be solved by fire, Zoom.
     
  17. aaaaaa50

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    How often is the Scout Rifle used as an effective weapon, by anyone? Because if the only people using the Scout Rifle are new players, then there's no reason to keep the weapon.
     
  18. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    The only reason I don't use it more often is because my ping is generally too high to be consistently effective with it. If I was any good, I'd use it much more often when scunting.

    Also, I commonly use it when defending a barracks from a gren or dealing with an HMG whore. It's really effective for dealing with them.
     
  19. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    Again, as i said, not the point, for fucks sake.


    Seriously, i dont want to iterate everything exactly step by step when i mean every goddamed time i type something.

    I dont se anyone using scouts as anti campers weapons anyway. Unless someones being a dick and camping with hmg a mile away, rifles are better any day.
     
  20. D.D.D. Destroyer

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    Why bother switching to scout when you can just drive up to the camper in a vehicle. Or walls.
     

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