Remove the Scout Rifle or Empires Dies

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by ImSpartacus, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329

    .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329 Member

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    I still think that you are stupid.
     
  2. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    1. Remove scout rifle until we get a viable replacement
    2. Rename class to saboteur to better represent its most prominent role

    It could work with limited effort.
     
  3. BroT

    BroT Member

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    1. Completely remove Scout
    2. ??????
    3. Profit!
     
  4. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Replace the sniper with the semi automatic rifles. No scope.
    Sort of similar to the NF rifle2.
     
  5. Freaknovich

    Freaknovich Member

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    Scount rifle should not be removed! Too many good memories of headshots. And as for the noobs who scunt, they will be noobs either way; whether camping with scunt rifle or hmg. These noobs will either grow out of it like I did (played mostly scount when I started) or will realize this game is not for them and that they should go back to camper strike.
     
  6. w00kie

    w00kie Mustachioed Mexican

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    Make spawning as scout cost wages on each spawn.

    250 wages to spawn as scout.

    done.

    now bring the virgins.

    PRO
    ->no early scouts because people don't have wages
    ->no noobs minding their own useless business

    CONTRA
    ->professional noobs wait until 250 wages, don't get tank for that, go scout and hide the whole round :headshot
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2013
  7. [lodw]keef

    [lodw]keef Hobbit

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    ya I'm not particularly opposed to this, give sticky stun to rifleman as well, remove scout, profit.

    I really dont think scout serves empires gameplay, Empires: teamplay based gameplay. Scout: solo class mentality. I dont really think there is any dramatic gameplay loss to removing scouts, yes yes there are a couple things that a scout can do for the team but needing scout lead squad hide to get through some lvl3 MGs or the like could just as easily go for some more grens instead. I also dont think sab is a very productive gameplay mechanic, if someone can take something down without notice I view it as a fail, the more combat the better and all the misc driving around killing random refs n shit unnoticed then someone driving along behind rebuilding is not nearly as fun a mechanic as someone showing up due to noticing the building is dying and fighting you over it.

    Anyway you could go on all day about it as has been done, over and again.
     
  8. PreDominance

    PreDominance Member

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    You all forget how fucking powerful the scout rifle was when you could prone and reset the animation by moving, effectively emptying the clip in less than a second. Back THEN it was actually decent. In fact, I even hosted a scout-only pub match ages ago that kind of explained the exploit to everyone who didn't know.

    Good times..
     
  9. .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329

    .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329 Member

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    Eh, the only person I remember really using that to great effect was YouzY, but he already does that with the current sniper rifle anyways.
     
  10. aaaaaa50

    aaaaaa50 Member

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    :pathetic:
     
  11. Lawliet

    Lawliet Member

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    Buff the **** out of the scout rifle. Why you may ask?

    It's a god damned sniper rifle. It should usually be 1-2 shot kill. (I know it's 2 shot most of the times cause of body shots). Also, a fast reload skill would be nice for scouts. Fuck, I'm just making a separate thread for this.

    COD Sniper all the way.
     
  12. Deadpool

    Deadpool SVETLANNNAAAAAA

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    sniping in empires is so unique though, the distances can get ridiculous, which i like.

    agreed hide+sniper gets a lil stupid... but dont just remove sniping.
     
  13. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    if Hide used stamina then no more OP sniper
     
  14. .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329

    .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329 Member

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    Hide doesn't make sniper "OP". If anything, the openess of empires maps does.
     
  15. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Stop crying. There are plans. They're a bit off, but this time, I'm confident we can go somewhere with addressing all scout-related problems, including the Scout Rifle.
     
  16. [lodw]keef

    [lodw]keef Hobbit

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    yes yes we all agree going around highlighting and pressing the delete key is an excellent idea!

    :P
     
  17. Metal Smith

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    I like scout. When I can get the game to run, it's fun to dick around and hide in random places that people still don't check after 7 years.
     
  18. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    Im sorry trickster, but after 5 years of such statements, i can hardly do anything but throw that into the "blimp bin".
     
  19. Cad

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    Buff it you mean, yes? To 2.12 values, yes? Good!
     
  20. Reznov

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    You guys are playing scout wrong if you think it is a useless class.

    Go hide in the sbend base in slaughterd as brenodi. sab every building without being noticed. kill everyone who finds you and boom. your 1st in your team without even needing a squad and helping your team while doing your thing. dont forget sticky stuns incase enemy cv was too stupid enough to not run away even though the sbend base is missing.
     

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