Remove the 400 res rax, change it back to 200.

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by -Mayama-, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. -Mayama-

    -Mayama- MANLY MAN BITCH

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    The problem is that a spawn every 10 seconds is as problematic
    as people camping the vf. Its almost completly random who buys
    the vehicle when their are enough resources to buy a tank.
    So a timed spawn would cause frustraition (spawn stealer asf).
     
  2. pickled_heretic

    pickled_heretic Member

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    don't you dare nerf radar spam
     
  3. SnowDrakE

    SnowDrakE Member

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    But then it would be a feasible tactic to field multiple APCs even in lategame, if you really want/need mobile forward spawns. 1 APC in this case will work, but will be painfully slow.

    So either you limit the spawns by decreasing the number of seats or give it a respawn timer. Less seats also means less transport and supply capabilities theoretically. The limit will be obvious once the APC is full and you cannot respawn if many spawn at the same time.

    The timer on the other hand sounds like a good compromise. Maybe change the research to remove the timer on the APC and make it cheaper, but give the APCs the possibility to act as limited spawns from the get-go with a 10 second spawn delay.
     
  4. Emp_Recruit

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    The only thing I dislike about APCs is that they are effectively a barracks on wheels and almost as strong once armor is teched. Oh and they give ammo and health.

    I'd love to see them with spawns from the beginning but something needs to be done about the "OH HAI I CAN HAVE MY WHOLE TEAM SPAWN IN UR BASE LOL!!!!"
     
  5. -Mayama-

    -Mayama- MANLY MAN BITCH

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    random suggestions:

    -You cant spawn in an apc for X seconds if it is/was under fire.

    -Every APC has X spawn slots and everytime someone spawns
    it removes one, those spawns slowly regenerate over time.

    -You can only spawn in an apc that stands still

    -You can only spawn in an apc that stands still and it needs to deploy for it
    so it cant quickly drive away.

    -Theirs a extra module that you need to put into your APC
    if you want that people can spawn in it.
    This module is very heavy so you cant put much armor
    or guns on the vehicle.
     
  6. TheAmethystDuke

    TheAmethystDuke Member

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    If I had to choose, 4 or 5.
     
  7. Falchion

    Falchion Member

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    I agree.


    With Mayama.
     
  8. Chris0132'

    Chris0132' Developer

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    I suggested that a long time ago, I still think it's a good idea. Deploying should also increase damage resistance considerably for the APC.
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2009
  9. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    the deploying APC would need animations and visual indicators for the driver (aka a bar)

    and concerning the increasing cost thing. most of the suggestions (i know some of mine too) are overly complicated. if we scale it with % it should only be one value (not like, rax scale +50%, turrets +20%, armory +12,8%, reppad +42.85123%, ...)

    while many suggestions are ambitious i think putting rax back to 200 would be the easiest solution. and, if you really have to, maybe make all buildings scaleing by a certain percent value.
     
  10. pickled_heretic

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    I already consider apcs to be mostly useless to the average empires team, I doubt nerfing them would improve the situation much.
     
  11. Empty

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    They're only useless because nobody researches spawns.
     
  12. pickled_heretic

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    i purposely choose not to research them, especially on ticket starved maps.

    on top of that it's another 60 seconds away from decent tanks, tanks which determine more games than apc spawn ever has.
     
  13. Empty

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    There are no ticket starved maps.

    And I didn't say people should research it.
    I meant to say the research is fucking stupid.
     
  14. pickled_heretic

    pickled_heretic Member

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    rofl <filler>
     
  15. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    exactly what i was thinking of
     

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