Ya wanna know? I was suspicious of "red tape" before seaching, however I was dead and had no need to look it up in particular, but after my death I stumpled upon it, well, basically i seached "engineering mind" vids on you tube, when i saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnKCQ6-AyHA&feature=related Then I remember ... ummm RED TAPE`?!!!!??! Oh yeah spammed twice in the same sentence ... then i seached wilkipedia to make sure, "Empires must be canceled because the HL2 engine is outdated and empires needs to much resources(work force~) for a small playerbase, you use red tape to mark this ... " is my (not necesarily accurate) interpretion PS: I was going to post that vid in my second response after i died, but i deleted it, it was a bit too much help from a dead ... You think so? I never said anything like sand or wind ... but ya know ... duststorm is an deserted empiresmap (lol) and you deserted empiresmod ... I votez Kylegar! ... Obviously ...:p