How to: DotA 2

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  1. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    fucking retard, 52-54 means 52 to 54 is you 2 second margin of error. if you aim for 52 you're late say by a second a half or something you still have till 54 to pull before it fails. FUCKING RETARD.
     
  2. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    I'm a DOTA noob, but I feel like it may be worth including this stuff in your guide. Perhaps without the "FUCKING RETARD" part? Best of luck to you and your guide! :p
     
  3. RetroFade

    RetroFade Member

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    Anyway, the general idea is you pull earlier dependent on number of stacks, usually giving yourself a difference of 1 second as you get more creeps, but yes there becomes a time where a "limit" becomes established. It doesn't really matter because if it's not an ancient camp (so we're talking lane camps) you're probably gonna get a max of 2/3 before someone will pressure you. 53 is pretty much known as the first timing but it can work a second on either side.

    If you want a good idea of how this works, practice Ancient Stacking with Beastmaster at one of the offlanes. You'll see that you have to do it earlier as more creeps accumulate. Same principle for the lanes/

    Oh and nobody gives a fuck about brackets. At least you shouldn't anyway if the idea of this thread is to try and make people better. It should be out of the question if you want to become better. The fact the game has only 3 (Normal, High, Very High) doesn't even give you much to aim for (considering with over time you'll move up as you get better anyway)

    Oh and Paradox has only played 3 games in "Very High", ever. The last one being 14 days ago. It's pointless to use that as something to argue with. (You also lost them all too)
     
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  4. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    this stuff is in the video that is linked
     
  5. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Bahahahahahhahahahahhaa.

    Oh man Paradox, you just got called out on your BS bad.
     
  6. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    I think I feel bad for Paradox...

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  7. Brutos

    Brutos Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Valve said that MM is based on a continous scale. The 3 visible ones are just the visible ones.
     
  8. RetroFade

    RetroFade Member

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    Yeah it is the basic form though.

    Any googling into it and you'll find more specifics (I know staff have elaborated).

    I understand it somewhat looks and works like a bell curve

    Close to how "DBR" was calculated like this: https://dotabuff.com/pages/dbr
     
  9. -Mayama-

    -Mayama- MANLY MAN BITCH

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    5v5 teamfight, all full hp/mana i manage to trap/silence 3-4 guys as disruptor, rest of my team exept kane runs away... fucking runs away for no reason this is so fucking anoying this happened at least 4 times and this game makes me/people so fucking angry... oh and people buy portal scrolls but they REFUSE to use them cause hey they cost money..............
     
  10. Deiform

    Deiform Member

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    Haha yeah team fights can suck. It's hard with heroes like disruptor because silence isn't an obvious status debuff. There's a big mental difference between disruptor initiating and silencing all the heroes, and a sand king that ults and stuns 3 heroes. You can argue that a hero with stuns will get better follow up than the silencer.
     
  11. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    you know what gets a good follow up? Blink 5 man blackhole and you screaming BLACKHOOOOOOOLEEEE IN MIC.
     
  12. -=]Kane[=-

    -=]Kane[=- Member

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    I know, right, then your whole team stands next to you not sure what to do and go in one at a time after the blackhole is over and you killed.
    Was there as enigma, done that PLENTY of times. Vodka, vodka ...
     
  13. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    When you're late by that much, creeps block each other and your stack fails.
     
  14. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    doesnt matter atleast I'll feel good about 5 man blackhole and screaming like a madman through mic
     
  15. Emp_Recruit

    Emp_Recruit Member

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    .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329 Member

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    After reading this giant dick comparing contest, I'm not sure I ever want to play Dota again. If this game has tactics that give me a margin of error of about four or five seconds, it might honestly just not me worth it to learn how to "pull creeps". Paradox, for the next guide you write, please sure it has more newbie advice. I picked up this game not too long ago, and I couldn't care less about pulling creeps atm.
     
  17. Fooshi

    Fooshi For fuck's sake Fooshi

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    So much mad and hostility in this thread.
     
  18. -Mayama-

    -Mayama- MANLY MAN BITCH

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    after doing it 2 times, its not really hard to stack and pull lanes
     
  19. RetroFade

    RetroFade Member

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    I find it fucking hilarious.

    I've got some microwave popcorn in the cupboard. Might break it out.
     
  20. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    dawg I'm not talking about you, I was more aiming at mayama , quetzal coatl, yusundur, deif, predator, the guys that actually actively play it with me and whom I know
     

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