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  1. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    Even I barely use ironsights and I'm a shitty rifleman. Only if someone is merrily prancing about at the edge of my vision will I use them. And miss anyways :pathetic:
     
  2. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    Yeah, i miss the old times where actualy trying to aim accounted for something, not just W+m1 >.>
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  3. JustGoFly

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    Good advice from all. I will try to adjust. I think Security and Hasche are the best riflemen I've seen play the game. Hasche regularly scores 100+ kills on a round of district. When I play with him - I take the long shot and he handles all the short ones and we can't be beat. I would rather use a rifle scope than go scout any day.

    I do know not to use ironsights when pushing, but do use it to cover the team as they push. And it works out very well - normally I can add value to the squad by covering them on a push from a distance. I'm not as good close up as many other guys, but am above par at distance.

    SO do you guys who excel in rushing or close fire - always aim for the head ? Do you start firing before you turn that corner? I tend to hit mid body.

    For skills - I usually choose : Increased health (130 health), increased damage, the scope selection, then whatever the option is for putting damage towards stamina. Any recommendations?

    I think my tank skills are good, at both distance and up close. I can hit you just about every time no matter how fast and many times how far you are. I love seeing that tank trying to run for health only to nail them with a long lob. Oddly my gren mortar skills are not as good as most. I also don't HOP when someone shoots me - which I believe reduces damage. Lots more practice needed. But I spend way too much time in the COM vehicle.
     
  4. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    You're using health, damage, accuracy and dig in then?

    To start with, damage upgrade isn't that useful. Maybe one out of ten times it saves a bullet and one out of twenty five times it saves your life. In comparison, you're more likely to outright dodge a bullet if you swap it for speed upgrade and keep moving. One of the things you'll see the best riflemen, and good players in general, do is constantly move.

    Dig in also isn't that useful unless you're spending an awful lot of time prone, which you shouldn't be. Crouching with accuracy upgrade is all you'll need. To a gren, a prone player and a crouched player are just as easy to hit. The only difference is that a crouched player can run away and a prone one can't.

    Still, you don't have much of a choice in which skill you can get. The only ones that can be useful are ammo, regen, damage and melee at that point. Generally speaking, ammo will be the most useful if you find yourself running out of ammo. If you find yourself in the thick of things and jumping over walls often, melee can prove useful. Regen is more situational than the rest, it benefits players that lone-wolf the most and rifleman is a pretty bad class to be doing that as, but it's saved me a few times at least. As a last skill, damage is decent, but again, it depends on how often you die or your opponent escapes with >10 health.

    Quick thing to note, in the next patch you can interrupt reloading with weapons that have melee attacks, so melee upgrade with the shotgun pistol becomes much more effective. It's not particularly important, but it's something to consider.
     
  5. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    aim down sights, i assumed it was a common english abbreviation, sry

    and its something along the lines of cl_dynamic_crosshair, if you disable it - set it to 0 - the crosshair will always be small. but remember, it wont show you that you have shit aim, always assume you have shit aim, single shot, rapid succession, always (ok maybe not in close combat but trust your panic you will spray in close combat anyway no matter what)
    oh and aim for the head area, make it a habit, always say to yourself, hit the head, hit the head, hit the head - sounds odd but helps ;)

    and when you expect an enemy - prefire - dont wait to see him, start fireing while you strafe around the corner. dont assume your reaction to be better, dont take chances, rather grab more ammo then die. empires doesnt know about friendly fire, so no worries on this side either.

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    oh and district is boring
     
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  6. Grantrithor

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    cl_dynamiccrosshair 0 I believe to stop the crosshair from showing how inaccurate your shots are. Not even joshin you can actually run and fire with NFAR and score kills if you take off dynamic crosshairs. I, personally, only use sights for hitting targets that are at a range because it does a zoom in effect, because it's difficult to hit things that are literally 5 pixels wide.
     
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  7. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    ofc if its 5 pixels you better use your aim ^^

    but if it gets 100pixels you might already consider crosshair only, especially with accuracy upgrade - unless that changed considerably.
     
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  8. D.D.D. Destroyer

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    If it's five pixels ask your noob friend to snipe him with his rifle and just continue along as if the enemy wasn't there.
     
  9. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    I've never understood why people disable the dynamic crosshair. Everyone says to disable it, but I don't see why a visual aid that shows how inaccurate your shots are is a bad thing.
     
  10. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    i guess its hard to measure. i find it easier as rifleman. you can put it in the rifleman.cfg and it will only disable if you pick rofle (if not enable in the other class profiles)

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    btw i just looked up how large 100px would be - thats way above the "are you nuts to use aim" size - you can use xhair for something like 30pixels already, maybe even smaller.
     
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  11. Grantrithor

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    Try it out, it actually helps you land shots better. Do some sniping with pistol 01 and you'll never go back.
     
  12. D.D.D. Destroyer

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    I played Team Fortress 2 with a static crosshair. I scored many many kills as Pyro.
     
  13. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    I detest dynamic crosshair. I couldn't imagine ever using it.
     
  14. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    Hmmm I guess I should try the crosshairs thing. I know though that I just spray at people but don't look at the crosshair, just where my bullets are going. Still though, tapping A/D to strafe and firing in small bursts, aiming more for the neck/upperchest area because recoil will make you hit their head more often is the way to go unless they are right next you.Works great in Counterstrike too.
     
  15. Sgt.Security

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    On escort NF I use ammo upgrade, speed upgrade, health upgrade, accuracy upgrade. (Anti-vehicle, no fuck is giving to infantry.)
    On others I use health upgrade, accuracy upgrade, ammo upgrade, speed upgrade.

    I am using the default dynamic crosshair, but that's probably because I used to play CS.

    Anyway yes, shoot them in the head.
     
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  16. communism

    communism poof

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    you owe me for carrying you
     
  17. JustGoFly

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    Candles - much appreciated your sharing your advice. All good and I'm sure it will enable me to improve. I enjoy Spec following you, I always learn something but hate when you're on the OTHER team.

    Flasche - all good. The cross hairs do not seem to be accurate. I have tested accuracy with various weapons and I know to adjust aim long distance. This might be by design. I know when tossing grenades to aim off center to get it right in the doorway.

    I used to hate District, but it is the proving grounds for riflemen and grens. Those that love it excel in those weapons. Engies learn great squad leadership skills. Revive and heal on the second - or you lose people. When Hasche pushes - I'm on the button to give him three lives in one push by healing him as he pushes and we can't lose. He's an animal. But I would rather be rifleman and someone else squad engie.

    Although it is an excellent scout map as well. One more thing it does is enables you to train working with players you like to play with. I think it builds good squad skills and improves rifleman and gren aiming.

    Big learning so far : Practice always hitting the head, even at close range. I focus on this long range, but need practice to make it a habit at close range. Use Speed upgrade over others that I have been choosing. I notice lots of guys like the punch upgrade, and along with speed seems to be the best way to take out a group of guys especially in a spawn location or in tunnels.

    Much thanks - I hope to soon be a real threat to each of you :)
     
  18. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    I just love how some of the points made in this thread are actually really bad.
     
  19. Sgt.Security

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    Dayem straight.
     
  20. communism

    communism poof

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    District is for K/D farming and for proving your title as hipster king i mean 1v1's. You don't really learn much game sense and I'd argue you learn to aim better when you got the pressure of a real match on you
     

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