Unofficial maps that should become official

Not a poll thread, just post what maps you think should be official, and why.

Mine:
emp_bush - Fun, randomized gameplay with gorgeous visuals.
emp_palmbay - Tight map that allows for a lot of fast tactics. Also looks like sex

 

emp_palmbay - Visually very good looking, good for lower player numbers.

Would need base sizes changing a bit to accommodate NF better though. NW and NE for NF are way too small, in comparison with BE. Remember about base switching in 2.25 as well. http://empires.martinpace.com/images/keef/giants/screenshots/emp_palmbay_b1minimap.JPG

emp_bush - Visually good looking, plays well, 6 different starting positions and random refs. Fucking awesome.


The following are ones that I still think should be official, but can see why they might not be made official due to specific reasons.

emp_silo - Plays well, Visually stunning (arguably the best looking map in empires), balanced. May present low FPS for some users though.

emp_alpinerush - Plays well (Slaughtered with less artillery faggotry in my experience) and looks polished

emp_midbridge - Not the best looking map, but the gameplay is fantastic, and it's very balanced, as well as being unexploitable. B4 looked to be perfect, and Pastori may always consider finishing it if it was considered official. Like I said though, not the best looking map.

emp_forest - Pretty much a less good looking version of emp_silo, with higher FPS but far less in it.

 

emp_arid - balanced map with fun gameplay
emp_alpinerush - chokepoint map that doesn't feel cluttered because of the multiple chokepoints
emp_frozensummit - snow map that doesn't suck
emp_glacial - snow map that's actually fun
emp_midbridge - balanced with 'chokepoints' but also plentiful infantry routes
emp_moors - nice and wide open vehicle battles
emp_silo - gameplay similar to coast except with a better focus on infantry combat
emp_tropicvendetta - blimps! need I say more?

 

Arid is already official. -.-

 

emp_midbridge - Fun, plays well and is balanced
emp_tropicvendetta - a lot of fun to play, looks great and has a new style
emp_frozensummi - cant change what scardybob said "Snow map that doesn't suck."
emp_blah - I liked it

 

emp_midbridge
emp_bush
emp_alpinerush

All three of those are well balanced, have been extensively playtested and are well liked by the community. There is no real reason not to include them, although some devs would object to midbridge.

emp_glacial is a recent map, but one which is well liked and lacking in any major flaws. Might be worth consideration, but it is still quite a "young" map.

emp_palmbay I like, but I personally think it looks a bit cartoony for empires. If the visuals were changed (not improved, it looks fine as is, just not empires), I would support it entirely.

emp_king produces mixed reactions, many bemoaning its vast, intricate nature which can lose entire teams in its labrynthine city. However, it plays very well on larger servers, and it certainly doesn't lack for visual appeal or quality of construction.

 

You All Forgot Mesa Die In Hell!!!

 

Mesa is bad

I'd like to see glycenpass offical.
Also PuddingForts

 

Emp_Plateau should obviously become official, but I doubt it will be released anytime soon

 

mesa is awesome
wtf is wrong w you people


mesa is seriously an amazing map, i dont know why ppl dont agree with that

palmbay only looks cartoony in the sense that most tropical islands are prone to looking cartoony, in that sense it's perfect.

i'd like to see all these maps made official, except king. king should be burned. or at least remove the flags and make the city accessible for vehicles. nf should never lose this map because of the ability to jeep rush right away

 

How about Official maps that should be Unofficial?

urban chaos
gylcencity
money

And if moors becomes official I will quit empires forever..

My picks,

midbridge - dope ass map for large amounts of players which is a common thing now.
bush - good looking map that plays alright.
re-add streets of fire! - It was already official till grizzly fucked it up and left it to die dammit


I would say alpine rush too but its a bitch to command on with barley any room to place stuff and with one mistake in placement your fucked. Would be dope if it had a vf and radar placed at start or something.

 

bush - it's amazing it's amazing it's amazing

mesa - good balanced map that looks nice

shadows - i think it gets alot of hate from its earlier versions. its pretty fun and i've seen others enjoy it from the few times it managed to get voted as nextmap

homeland - i think i speak for alot of people when i say this map is awesome. its a great commander map thats also really fun for infantry

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

but im with you in re-adding streets of fire

 

My little wish list:
+++ = must be in 2.25
++ = nice map
+ = why not
rest = maybe

Code:

+++.emp_alpinerush_b3                                         
+...emp_arid_new                                              
++..emp_blah4                                                 
++..emp_bush_ob4
++..emp_delta_rc4
+++.emp_district402_alt3                                      
+...emp_duststorm_225_b2                                      
+++.emp_escort_alt5
+...emp_escort_nf2
....emp_fogtown_beta3
+++.emp_forest_ob
++..emp_frozensummit_b2
+...emp_glacial_b2                                            
++..emp_hazard_rc6
+++..emp_homeland_b9                              
+++.emp_insurrection_rc3
++..emp_king_r5
....emp_megahill_jam_b4
+++.emp_mesa_b4
+++.emp_midbridge_b3c
++..emp_money_revisited_r1
++..emp_moors_b1
+++.emp_palmbay_b2                                            
+++.emp_provinggrounds_b2
+...emp_rainbowroad_b2                                        
+++.emp_research_1_2
+...emp_shadows_rc10a
+++.emp_silo_rc3
+...emp_smokies_rc2
++..emp_snowbound_1_2
++..emp_streetsoffire_working                                 
+++.emp_traders_a8
+++.emp_tropicvendetta_rc1                                    
++..emp_vehicletraining_ob2                               
++..emp_ward_rc2a

Maybe we should release an official map pack.

 

I concur with dubee, guys let's look at this. I made moors in a day, a single day, it is not of quality enough to be official.

That being said I'm kinda surprised by the support for palmbay and alpine rush. I had kinda discontinued support for them in favor of working on the official maps but it wouldn't require to much to get some polish on them

if we gets refs represented by yellow sprites on the minimap I put 5 stars behind bush

 

frost. /thread

 

rainbow road
it's fun

 

You know that the refs show up in random spots right? I think it would need something different that basically says ref might be here. Like a green dot or something. I can just see noobs waiting at a yellow dot asking for a ref when there is no node.

 

He means res nodes automatically show up like buildings do.

 

I'm going to make a few points, or at least clarify some misconceptions.

Firstly, many of you know I sorted out an old 2.2 version of Streets of fire, removed the space ship and called it streetsoffire_working. That will be in 2.24d. Glycencity has been done over (less HDR etc) by Keef, District402 by Metalsmith and Escort by Scardybob. After speaking with Beerdude, the developers seem keen to get these in. I myself prompted this thread.

In terms of official maps that have been remade, rather than just edited, Money has been redone by myself and will be fixed up by Scardybob for inclusion, provided the showstopping bug is fixed. It will replace the old money. Other spotlighted maps which are confirmed to have been done are Duststorm and canyon, by Keef (and Shandy?). It's upto Keef/Shandy to tell us how far isle and mvalley are, as well as Cyber-Kun informing us about Cyclopean and Crossroads. Arid has been updated considerably by Silk.

That leaves coast (doesn't need touching, except maybe the water, but whatever), Urbanchaos and slaughtered definitely untouched. The old 2.21 edited version of Slaughtered by Omneh has too low an FPS to be included.

So can we stop discussing those maps please? Also, try to keep suggestions to a minimum per post (looks at SIP) because just listing every custom map doesn't help.

Anyways, onto discussion. Homeland crashes commanders. It can't be official until a day when it no longer does that, no matter what. Crashing maps are bad.
Shadows would be cool if it was RC9, but RC10a is one of the worst maps in empires. It basically went from one of my favourite maps (RC9) to one of my most hated (RC10a). So I'm totally against shadows, in its present form at least.
Mesa plays really well, but an emphasis on this release is visual improvement, for everything. Whilst Mesa plays well, the giant puddings don't exactly look that good. That's the main reason I'm against it. If it was improved visually, I'd totally be for it.

Bush and Midbridge are a must, they play well, are good looking and have been played by the community for quite some time.
Glacial is very good looking, but in my opinion it's too young. Any map that's in its 1st or 2nd version needs more development to streamline it.
Frozensummit is effectively another duststorm in many ways. Maps should be varied, but you can't really vary "big open space". That's why I'm not 100% for alpine rush, because it's already similar to slaughtered. Having official maps being really similar to eachother is bad.
King is visually stunning. By far the best made map there is. For the intricacy of it, the content and the effects it has, you get a high FPS. The problem though is that the map just feels so big. At anything less than a full server, it feels empty. However, I feel this is because people don't know the map. It's just a big map and for a custom that doesn't get played that often, people don't really know it that well. If it was made official, there is a chance that this would change, as it would be played far more frequently. If it didn't go down well, there's no reason it couldn't be removed the following version, or servers could decycle it. King deserves the recognition of the effort put into making it.

Finally, I think there should be 1 unique map in this next release. A map with something a little bit extra, something a bit special. Something different from your regular gameplay.
Which is why, I think Insurrection and/or Smokies should be included. They both present some unique gameplay, unlike most other maps. They're a very infantry oriented commander map. It's not a small pokey map where infantry are useful because there isn't much room, but because of the terrain. I'm personally not bothered which, insurrection is highly polished, and I doubt smokies would need much to bring it into line. The odd tree fixed here and a better minimap. That's it.

So yeah, that wall of text was my opinion. I didn't mention every map but whatever.

TL;DR version:

Stop talking about any map that's official, even if you're talking about the edited (alt) versions.
Emphasis on 2.25 is visual improvement.
Bush & Midbridge for definite.
Try king for one release, main problem is that people don't know it well enough due to the intricacy. Officialdom could fix this.
Glacial too young.
Smokies and/or Insurrection due to unique infantry oriented large map gameplay.
Mesa has good gameplay but isn't fantastic visually.
Frozensummit/alpinerush too similar to Duststorm/slaughtered respectively.
Homeland crashes people.
Shadows RC9 was epic, RC10a is horrible.