Trickster's massive thread of "fixes" needed for empires (Bugs, models and Gameplay)

drop scout sabotage damage over time and make turrets to vulnerable to melee while concussioned/sabotaged

 

i dislike that
why would turret be vulnerable after flashed?

 

It already is Neoony.

Also, why should a grenadier have to waste 3 rockets/mortars on a turret? And why should an engineer have to drop an ammobox, meaning that for the next 2 minutes he's only able to take out turrets effectively in that location.

 

1 well placed rocket or mortar should take out a turret, no matter the level

i agree with not making both of them work, but one of the 2 should be able to do it

 

:eek: Really?! 1 shot to kill any turret?! Say good bye to turrets.. I really don't understand how you could think that is a good idea in anyway. And your the fucking scripter now!! ugh... were doomed!

 

turrets are a tool, you are supposed to protect it as engineer, and halfway trough the game you should have 2 turrets anyway

maybe i overreacted with saying 1 rocket because then an engineer cant spamrepair it to keep it up , but 2 hits should most definitely take it down imo

also i am not "the" scripter

i wish i was, but i have to share that place with at least 2 other people

 

You have to keep a turret in the open for it to shoot things. That would mean RPG's can easily be shot at it no prob. Even with the mowtar it's not hard to shoot a turret with. The fun/skill comes in play when you need to shoot a little to the side and behind the turret to keep them from repairing it.

If you get rid of that it will make it less fun to gren.

 

hmm, although i agree i do want to make the grenadier more efficient at countering turrets

 

Now you need 3 rpg hits on turret, thats perfectly fine. Single engie just cant keep it up.=

 

4 rpgs to kill a turret nowadays iirc

 

That 3 rpgs/mortar rule is only good if there is no engy repairing the turret. That is not the case on several maps (I'm thinking of the towers in crossroads in particular) where turrets can effectively take many shots before dying.

Frankly, I think dps vs repairs per sec is a better measure for the turrets than straight-up damage.

 

escort, district, urbanchaos are also ones where this is a problem. You can have this problem in pretty much any tight, chokepoint area (think canyon, money, slaughtered, and coast chokepoints).

Then again, crossroads is the most egregious and would be solved by extending the nobuilds on the towers.

 

4 rpgs it is

turrets are an issue cause people dont want to change
class or are to lazy to place a wall and a ammo box -.-
Making turrets weaker would make it almost useless.

 

damn, why you ppl wanna always just change things?
i think its perfect as how it is now (2.24) i dont see any reason changing gren
vs turret
You can take it on 3 shots (!!!) and when somebody is repairing it you just have to keep shooting on it or aim little higher with mortar

and also gren is good vs infantry, you just have to know how to aim with mortar
and also gren is good vs tanks, of course not vs heavys, but thats why its called heavys...get a research or place mines (maybe just that research should be placed somewhere else)

 

is that hard for you?
use mines and combine rpg with mortar
i have no problems destroying any light tank with any armor or apc with any armor
apc is even easyer when you dodge his bullets