The YOU can help too, thread.

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  1. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    Was thinking of ways we can help with Empires development, that are manageable instead of the thousands of suggestions that won't happen.

    Mapping

    Make good looking Melee maps. Happy times!

    Modelling

    NF Engineer.
    New model for the NF Engineer. Use the existing NF model and replace the helmet with a hat/cap.

    Idle animation for unbuilt turrets.
    Allows you to detect unbuilt turrets easier.

    Destruction animation for buildings.
    Why keep it to just turrets? Makes the game look smoother and more fun.
    3Ds Max
    XSI

    Northern Faction Barracks
    Make a new barracks with the same area (do not make it larger) or reduce the height of the roof.
    Concept Art

    Decent Trees
    Create some good tree models (pine or leafy) that we can use in Empires. Half-Life 2: Episode 2 has some good examples of very nice trees:
    Link

    Animation

    The legendary Shotgun
    Animate this legendary piece of equipment.
    Thread
    VESS Steam


    Textures

    Decals
    Make decals that can be used in maps, it's quick and easy. Everyone can do it, even you.
    Tutorial

    Screenshots
    Take screenshots for the site.
    Thread
    Dropbox can be used to upload your pictures.

    Will add more to the thread later on.
     
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  2. harryhoot1

    harryhoot1 Member

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  3. RappemongO

    RappemongO Member

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    I like the initiative. :)

    Spent a night last week attempting this actually.

    Pirogihat / Sidecap:
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    BE engie cap, visor off, pushing around some vertices. Using the NF helmet texture it looks passable imo, albeit by the proverbial hair. The face textures looks weird with the chinstrap of course.

    So I compiled it and attempted to get it in my old 2.31 install since I don't want to mess up the steam install I actually use.

    The problems I ran into were these:

    • The NF character models are not setup like BE.
      Heads and body are split and there is only the one GI model.
      I believe anyone attempting this would need access to the code, making the code point to this new model for the engineer etc. So that is probably the big hurdle what with no coders being active and all.​

      [*]SDK Modelviewer
      How to make this point to the old 2.31 install instead of steampires?
      I tried replacing the NF GI head and test it in game, but you know... launching 2.31 every time I need to test a tweak is a bitch. And there are some inherent difficulties with looking at your own hat in an FPS...​

    Edit: Got the HLMV working.
     
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  4. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    Beerdude is quite active, you should harass him.
     
  5. Beerdude26

    Beerdude26 OnThink(){ IsDownYet(); }

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    Trickster has more experience with models if you have questions getting it ingame. I will not be available until the 3rd of February, but Jephir is very active.


    Does this currently work for Source 2007 mods?
     
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  6. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    WHAT NO FUCK YOU
     
  7. Paradox

    Paradox I am a gigantic asshole who loses people's hard wo

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    Dont be so counter productive!
     
  8. -Mayama-

    -Mayama- MANLY MAN BITCH

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    Neeeeed to hold back must not response D:
     
  9. RappemongO

    RappemongO Member

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    I got the model into the game fine. What needs to be done is updating the code somewhere so that only a player that has picked the engineer class gets this playermodel. I'm assuming this is not done via scripting.

    For someone with access to the source it should just be copypasta from BE, but what the fuck do I know? :headshot:
     
  10. harryhoot1

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    OH GOD HELP ME
     
  11. Candles

    Candles CAPTAIN CANDLES, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN.

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    I came.
     
  12. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    HA... now make it official.
     
  13. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    ... and nice looking :D
     
  14. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    well the roof could do with some work but I think this is an emergency fix that is do able now. Put that model in the next test and see if it changes game play dramatically for NF.
     
  15. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    Well it worked for the Turret right? It's just a animation for a model, so it should work.

    @Rappemongo, can't you just edit the skin and replace the leather straps with skin?
     
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  16. RappemongO

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    I can and I have. (<--- Is it just me or does that look disturbingly much like a certain mad norwegian? :eek: )

    That first one I even experimented with jigglebones on the chinflaps. Fun stuff. A bitch to set up proper though.

    Problem is still the fact that the game won't know to look for this model if player is engineer.

    Until a codemonkey decides to weigh in I'm just playing around, learning as I go and experimenting. So... any opinions / ideas as to what kind of hat the NF Engie should get? Bonus cookies for reference pics.

    @Harry - not bad. I've started modeling that a few times and lost interest when I realised I would no longer be able to park a jeep up there. :(
     
  17. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    Hahahahaha. I love it. Can you perhaps make the hat a bit larger? So it fits the head a bit more. (Or show me a pic from the side).
     
  18. w00kie

    w00kie Mustachioed Mexican

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    I love it, he looks like a badass butcher :D

    Concerning the baracks: hasn't someone else made pretty much exactly that baracks before and mootant nearly hung the person for it?
     
  19. Empty

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    Chris made an NF rax that looks 10 times better than that.

    I vote we use it instead.
     
  20. w00kie

    w00kie Mustachioed Mexican

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    Chris' baracks from 2009
     

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