Removed NF Wall barbed wire

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  1. LordDz

    LordDz Capitan Rainbow Flowers

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    But then again, there's a bit of common sense.
     
  2. Metal Smith

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    what's the point of those roll bars?

    what's the point of the barbed wire?

    why doesn't the empires have these?

    Leveling the playing field is not the same thing as creating an unfair advantage.
     
  3. complete_

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    i only count removing stuff that has hitboxes as cheating
     
  4. .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329

    .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329 Member

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    why does be get a dual cannon heavy omg no fair i think we should make a hack that gives the nf heavy dual cannons as well
     
  5. Empty

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    It's not levelling the playing field you fucking retard.
    If you install mods that remove these things you're gaining an advantage over other players.

    I'm not justifying their presence in the mod, I hate the rollbars and the barbed wire too, but it's unfair on other players if you remove them.
     
  6. Grantrithor

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    if the barb wire obscures your vision your fucking blind, the rollbar is basically a minor incovenience in which you have a huge blindspot on your left.
     
  7. .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329

    .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329 Member

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    whatever, i think doing shit like that is unfair, so i use stock everything
     
  8. complete_

    complete_ lamer

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    this forum is not very progressive

    would never have guessed on a mod forum that people would be so against mods (guess thats why scipt manifest got canned)
     
  9. .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329

    .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329 Member

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    hell i don't care if other people use it i just don't do it
     
  10. OuNin

    OuNin Member

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    fair game until steam release and sv_pure

    most aesthetic changes give a marginal advantage. it's the same way if you're cheating out the ass with mats.

    what people can modify only affects the game so much.

    it's not like people have mat hacks to see where the enemy CVs are.
     
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  11. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    No, they help a lot. As I said, I noticed a HUGE difference to my playing ability without them. ESPECIALLY the lasermod, which made life way harder when I removed it. But at the end of the day, they make the game more enjoyable. If it wasn't for sv_pure in steam, I'd still be using them, that's the reason I went back to 100% stock quite some time ago. And I will continue to try and push to get this shit properly added, but there's only so much that can be done.
     
  12. Grantrithor

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    I can agree that it helps alot, like when chris distributed his particles, where you could see fires from across the map and the bullet tracers always showed where the shooter was because they traveled slower.
     
  13. alucard13mmfmj

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    well. i think the sight obscurity is fair. NF has barb wire *on walls* and roll bar on jeep. BE has that lame blast shield on the RPG... i say its fair to leave in the annoyance.
     
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  14. .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329

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    bullet tracers always show the location of the shooter anyways unless ur dumb and don't have situational awareness.
     
  15. recon

    recon SM Support Dev

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    Basically that. If your client looks different than mine, you are cheating. You cannot rationalize it. Stop trying, you look like idiots. End of discussion.

    We will be done with all of these stupid client side modifications as soon as Steam rolls around. I wonder how much higher my KPD stats will get, seeing as I've never installed any of that bullshit.

    True, but if the shooter is out of your FOV, you have to turn first, so it's an advantage if someone has particles that stick around longer.
     
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  16. complete_

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    yes recon the only reason why you dont get kills is because everyone but you is using mathacks
     
  17. Grantrithor

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    I guess i'll have to say goodbye to my custom viewmodel textures.
     
  18. recon

    recon SM Support Dev

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    *yawn*
    emp_eastborough-s.jpg
    I couldn't care less about KPD, and I generally don't play riflemen. I'm merely pointing out that most of the people using modified clients will probably see their stats fall, whereas mine won't.
     
  19. .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329

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    you can usually hear the bullets hitting the ground around you. most people usually don't land their first shot for some stupid reason. after playing a bit, you begin to move erratically whenever you hear bullets land around you. when i'm bored, i sometimes use this to fuck with my teamates by shooting at their feet and laugh at their confusion as they turn around madly looking for an enemy.
     
  20. recon

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    If they're still shooting when you turn around, it doesn't matter. My point is if the aren't, modified particles will help.
     

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