remove stamina

Rifleman should be faster than engy, in fact i'm tempted to say engy should be the slowest as really, it can deal with it better.

Edit: Fuck it, you know what? Remove stamina upgrade and stamina for all classes, then add Sprint in as an upgrade skill in itself - sort of like an additional thruster. Anyone taking that skill would get the stamina bar and a (however long) spurt of rechargeable sprinting.

You could possibly keep speed upgrade for slower classes (or anyone really) who wants a boost. Ofc as a % of speed, scouts would benefit more, engies less, so you might want to remove it as a % and change it to a flat value.

 

You has a point...but then dey have walls und turrets and shiet...

So I dunno, dev/testing decision mebbe...?

 

my stupid post > your good post

also if you make this happen I will totilee make a mortar bhop map

 

There is already a little difference in speed resulting from different stamina values:

Stamina recharge:
Scout: 7
Rifleman: 5
Grenadier: 6
Engineer: 6
Stamina Skill: +2
Squad Aura: +2

Stamina discharge:
Scout: 18
Rifleman: 20
Grenadier: 19
Engineer: 19
Stamina Skill: -1
Squad Aura: 0 (have to check this)

Therefore I would say the stamina upgrade is the most useless skill. As you see below the result of this is barely noticable:

Running at money from north to south:
Engineer normal: 1:06 min
Engineer speed: 0:57 min
Engineer stamina: 1:04 min
Engineer speed + stamina: 0:56 min

 

All infantry should have the same speed. Who wants to wait for the slow riflemen or grenaiders when attacking a main? Or everyone will just scoutrush everything.

But yes, please fix sprint.

 

I didn't know that...I think stamina recharge should be across the board the same (except for scout ofc). But, disregarding that, I still follow that probably stamina should be removed, or maybe just bump stamina recharge up to scout levels (7) and make the scout's 10.

 

Well what does everyone do? We sprint all our stamina down to within 1% of being empty, then let it recharge back up. We should just make that the system.

So just remove the penalty for hitting 0 stamina. Also, everyone seems to want a smaller penalty for jumping.

All that about different speeds for different classes is too complicated. And completely removing it is too far, it still worth it to prevent bunnyhopping and all that.

 

Stamina system can be useful, and don't forget that some ingame effects are connected to it.
Bio weapons are devastating for infantry beacuse they reduce stamina to zero.
Dig-In skill only works properly if you didn't rush everywhere.

Long distance to walk on foot? Reduce the stamina drain when sprinting to half of the current. Problem solved. The current draining is really a nerf to infantry mobility without any bonuses.

Bunnyhopping targets? If you can't hit him, then you won't hit him either if he just strafing from left-right. So bunnyhoppers can be shot down, all you need is to not shoot out everything you have, but patiently aim, and time.

Stamina regeneration is useless? I agree it is. I never take it. How about merging it with health regereneration? Simply making a new skill from both. 'Regerenariton' which gives you health and extra stamina over time.

Speed upgrade makes sprinting unnecesseray? Make the speed upgrade to give less boost to your standard moving, but it will fasten up your reloading time, which also works for grenades too. So this skill usefulness remains, but it won't make your standard movement equal to sprint, causing unecessary the last.

So my vote is to NOT remove the stamina. (Especially if my suggestions will get implemented : D)

 

im still sticking whit my Insurgency mechanic.....

 

Insurgency has mechanics?
I thought it was just shit gameplay on top of a complete lack of information.

 

empty talking like he knows anything about gameplay

 

When stamina's depleted, the regen rate should be a bit slowed so people don't just hold shift. Like the engineer tool's mechanics.

 

And you're so much more qualified?

 

omg my super serious thread your ruining it

 

Why not just make sprint not use any stamina, go forward only, lower weapon and have a delay before weapon can be fired after you release it. Stamina becomes mana for casting jump and running out of it still makes you slower because bio needs that.

 

Cause then everyone would run all the time everywhere and it would be stupid.