plasma quick fix untill devs make up something better

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  1. blizzerd

    blizzerd Member

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    quickfix for plasma

    make it like a "decent" weapon damage wise and low area of effect, marginally better then std

    make it add "almost" no heat to yourself, and do normal "heat from damage" to enemies (same or slightly better then std, nothing special)

    put in chemistry (as in chemically generated plasma, meaning it could theoretically be fired cold, while it heats in the air)

    same for any plasma weapon
     
    blizzerd, Mar 19, 2011
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  2. Chris0132'

    Chris0132' Developer

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    Wouldn't it make more sense to just make it a decent cannon with normal damage, fire rate, and heat etc, and keep it in physics?

    I mean if it's a functional cannon in a tree with no other cannons, you could research it simply to have a cannon quickly when you go for that tree, or you could go for another tree with a specialised cannon in it.
     
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  3. MOOtant

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    I don't see anything wrong with plasma.
     
    MOOtant, Mar 19, 2011
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  4. blizzerd

    blizzerd Member

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    it supports boring gameplay, and also underpowered
     
    blizzerd, Mar 19, 2011
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  5. MOOtant

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    It works perfectly with diesel and bio ML.
     
    MOOtant, Mar 19, 2011
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  6. PreDominance

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    Why open up Biology, Physics, 2 sub-trees, and then 3 researches, when you can open up Physics, 1 sub-tree, and 3 researches?
     
    PreDominance, Mar 19, 2011
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  7. ^Dee^

    ^Dee^ Former Super Moderator

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    Does it still do more heat to the person firing than the target? I always found that really stupid.
     
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  8. Ikalx

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    Don't think so... :confused:

    Mebbe it should be more like a low-heat weapon that you can fire almost indefinately before overheating, while it does regular heat to the target.

    It does work atm - in niche conditions, but maybe if it worked a little differently, it could be more versatile. Perhaps a (more dangerous than std) weapon that could be quickly accessible without the need for upgraded engines?

    Just a thought.
     
    Ikalx, Mar 19, 2011
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  9. ^Dee^

    ^Dee^ Former Super Moderator

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    Speaking of; is there a place to see weapon stats? I'm not sure if the wiki is up to date because the stats are all silly.
     
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  10. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Not really. I update them that often that the wiki doesn't really get edited to keep up, and it's a bit more complicated now that most of the files are only accessible via GCFscape. SVN scripts are more updated than the actual Steam version.
     
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  11. Nickierv

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    I updated the vehicle weapons on the wiki a few days ago so they should be correct.
     
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  12. complete_

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    im a fan of plasma currently
     
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  13. communism

    communism poof

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    railguns op
     
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  14. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    it makes absolutely no sense to put it into chemisty, it would be more attractive to NF and there already is HECN. bio lacks a cannon - but its your job finding reasons, i never needed much ...

    ... maybe blood plasma? it disgusts enemies so much they puke, idk ...
     
    flasche, Mar 20, 2011
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  15. blizzerd

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    plasma can be created as a chemical reaction
     
    blizzerd, Mar 20, 2011
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  16. Beerdude26

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    Disregard reality, acquire research
     
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  17. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    i meant reasons from a techtree point of view :)
    it also sucks that phyiscs has no missiles f.e., id place either guided or homing there - again your job to find reasons, it just makes more sense to me to have one cn, ml and mg per tree (except for the one where chassis are) and it basically already is like that, just needs some moving around and madeup reasons ...

    (edit: ok physics has nukes, but thats a whole different story, also equally efficient for both teams)
     
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  18. alucard13mmfmj

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    lol. dee. is your avatar Yui Hirasawa?

    id like to see plasma as an EFFECTIVE niche weapon in end game battle.
     
    alucard13mmfmj, Mar 21, 2011
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  19. War Man

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    Yes, but what if the other team is also using bio or coolant engine? It is fucking worthless as it ends up just overheating yourself before you overheat the enemy.
     
    War Man, Mar 21, 2011
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  20. LordDz

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    You do know that the enemy usually fires their weapons at you when they are close? So that their heat is their own + added heat = overheat.
     
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