Paris. Around 100 killed so far.

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  1. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    what factories, theres barely industry in europe? well, not in europe as a whole, but in those states taking refugees.

    "we" are (still) rich because we plundered the world in the recent centuries (and still do), we dont need factories, we have services ...

    ... if we need them we need them to care for the elder and sick we cba to care about ourselfs because we are so held up in our decadence.
    i mean who wants to clean an old womes shit?

    see

    and thats why were the good guys ...

    ... or so.

    just as self criticism that seems to get burried under all that cohesive feeling of solidarity because "we" were attacked
     
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  2. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    This thread is on a fastlane to the blackhole people.
     
  3. vipervicki

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    they found a cellphone of one of the attackers, it should give them a lot of info.
     
  4. Grantrithor

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    Simmer down euro, your union is not the only one taking in refugees or being targeted by the sinful. Remember that if you do not purchase fair trade, or if you fuel your car with fuel originating from Saudi Arabia, you are contributing to the problem, so let he without sin cast the first stone.

    It's hard being clean in a dirty world.
     
  5. vipervicki

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    https://bgr.com/2015/11/18/anonymous-isis-twitter-accounts/
    Anonymous hackers declared ISIS a primary target in their cyberwar on terrorism. ISIS was quick to label the hackers “idiots” for declaring war, but the Anonymous collective proved once again that it’s got some serious skills. Soon after the attack began, Anonymous confirmed that it took down some 900 Twitter accounts affiliated with the Islamic State, and the number quickly climbed to more than 6,000 accounts in a matter of hours.

    It’s not known what Anonymous did to hit so many individual Twitter accounts in a matter of hours, but the group certainly has some experience in this area. This isn’t the first time Anonymous has targeted Twitter, having exposed some 101,000 Twitter accounts belonging to ISIS affiliates in its long-running OpISIS campaign,
     
  6. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    so what? then they just move to a different plattform ...

    ... theres speculations about them having communicated via PSN. i mean in theory they could use an empires server aswell (source's VOIP feature) - the options are manifold.
    itd be way easier for twitter to shut down the accounts, but i guess thats against the NSAs interrests.

    itd need coordinated attempts supported by a strong un mandate and not panic reactions.
     
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  7. complete_

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    no, the psn thing has already been disproven

    the news cycle is a joke
     
  8. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    news generally are a joke when it comes to technical details, thats nothing terror-exclusive.
    still the point sticks, online surveilance/an online battleground is pointless and also not how youll put an end to daesh.
     
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  9. vipervicki

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    taking their accounts down ofc isn't a permanent solution but it keeps them busy making new accounts over and over. Also anonymous has a guide how to find the ISIS accounts.
     
  10. vipervicki

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    they are threatening attacks now in NYC and DC the white house.
     
  11. ViroMan

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    Blow up the white house? Yes please! Bomb it while Obama is in it. Preferably just him and his "helpers".
     
  12. vipervicki

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    On a very serious note they are now afraid that ISIS might now be capable of using chemical or biological weapons. :(
    But Russia, France and the USA (finally ugh) are bombing the crap out of them.
     
  13. flasche

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    just like saddam? scnr
     
  14. vipervicki

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    France is warning about it.
     
  15. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    and they know that for certain NOW, 7 days after paris, which ofc is pure coincidence ...

    ... im not doubting the claim in general - you could do the same, mix chlorine cleaner with vinegar and out comes chlorine gas (thats why theres a warning on the back of the bottles)

    delivering will gonna be a problem though, a 50 liters tank is conspicuous and the reaction isnt that fast either :D
     
  16. vipervicki

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    no, I posted they think they MIGHT be capable, ISIS has been trying to develop it for awhile now.
     
  17. vipervicki

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ing-chemical-weapons_564decace4b08c74b7348e65
    BAGHDAD (AP) -- The Islamic State group is aggressively pursuing development of chemical weapons, setting up a branch dedicated to research and experiments with the help of scientists from Iraq, Syria and elsewhere in the region, according to Iraqi and U.S. intelligence officials.

    Their quest raises an alarming scenario for the West, given the determination to strike major cities that the group showed with its bloody attack last week in Paris. On Thursday, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls warned that Islamic extremists might at some point use chemical or biological weapons.

    IS has set up a branch tasked with pursuing chemical weapons, according to a senior Iraqi military intelligence officer and two officials from another Iraqi intelligence agency. They wouldn't give details of the program, including how many personnel it is believed to have or its budget.

    But al-Zamili, citing intelligence reports he has access to, told the AP that the group has managed to attract chemical experts from abroad as well as Iraqi experts, including ones who once worked for Saddam Hussein's now-dissolved Military Industrialization Authority. The foreigners include experts from Chechnya and southeast Asia, the Iraqi intelligence officials said.

    IS recently moved its research labs, experts and materials from Iraq to "secured locations" inside Syria, al-Zamili added - apparently out of concern of an eventual assault on Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, captured by IS in the summer of 2014.

    Iraqi authorities clearly fear the use could be expanded. Over the summer, Iraq's military distributed gas masks to troops deployed west and north of Baghdad, one general told the AP. A senior officer in Salahuddin province, north of Baghdad, said 25 percent of the troops deployed there were equipped with masks.

    More recently, Iraq's military received from Russia 1,000 protective suits against chemical attacks, said Hakim al-Zamili, the head of the Iraqi parliament's security and defense committee.

    "Daesh is working very seriously to reach production of chemical weapons, particularly nerve gas," al-Zamili said, using an Arabic acronym for the group. "That would threaten not just Iraq but the whole world."
     
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  18. Catface

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    Nerve gas seems a bit of a stretch. Sure, they might have the experts that know how to manufacture it. But the production process for the G agents requires very specific and delicate equipment. (The V agents are completely out of their league) Many of the precursors are extremely toxic or acidic and require not only special handling equipment, but also reaction chambers and storage facilities. It also needs to be stored at very specific environmental conditions (Or else it wil degrade quickly or even conflagrate). Then they need to posses (safe) delivery systems. And then they need to make sure they use it as soon as possible before their stock degrades, even more so if they (likely) use impure precursors. It takes nation-states years to even build a small impure stock and design the delivery systems.

    Chlorine, mustard, etc. of course are a lot easier to produce, but also less deadly. (Same for choking agents).
     
  19. vipervicki

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    Since the coalition is bombing them they need to take out these facilities where they are doing this.
     
  20. Metruption

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    they could fit like 3-4 of these into a backpack and they wouldn't even make noise if you wrapped them in blankets or something. i could totally see them putting a chemical weapon into a bunch of these and then using some jury rigged propane accessories as a distribution mechanism

    fuck posting this feels fucking weird, like the nsa is going to put me on another list
     

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