New 1.08 materials ?

What materials and models have been added that we can use in future maps?
I know i've seen different grass textures in slaughtered and canyon, the cliffs in crossroads were different (although they could've just been scaled), and i totally love the new trees in canyon !!!

So what else can we put in our maps when 1.08 is released? Are there new models besides the trees? Any new materials/textures?

 

There are new destroyed vehicle models, althouhg i've seen some only have collision models, and no visible stuff.

 

And invisible obstacle?

 

No, the destroyed vehicle's collision is there, but the model itself isn't there.

 

A lot of new urban textures, if I'm not mistaken. Plus some skyboxes.

 

This sounds like that problem you get when you the model files in the wrong directory.
when someone compile's a model, they need say where the files go in the models folder. But if someone moves then somewhere else in the models folder and try using them in game, you'll get that problem.

 

Good, good ! The more different (empires-styled) stuff the better!

Edit:

new textures + new trees + hdr = sweet

 

what was your fps in those screenshots with trees, Silk?

 

That grass is actually quite fugly from above, but it does look awesome on the ground. That first shot kinda reminds me of Oblivion.

 

It looks no worse than the default HL2 grass.

 

I'll test it the first time i play on a map using those trees.

EDIT:
63 fps (one area from above)


33 fps (same area from underneath the trees, with a lot of trees on the horizon)


43 fps (same area from above, with a lot of trees on the horizon)


32 fps (2nd area from underneath trees, with a vf and some other building close by)


There was only one person on the server, map was cdr_canyon, no tanks in that part of the map, but there were buildings and turrets. Ati x800; p4 3 GHz; 1,5 GB ddr2
Draw your conclusions.

 

I was killing stuff with railguns and a nuke when you were taking screenies, i capped the NF base flag and i won.

 

The grass may look even better if a detail mask is used. I'll check that out tomorrow.

 

Detail mask ... sounds interesting. Gonna have to look that up some time.

 

hmm :/ my systems specs are better and I dont even get 20 fps with the new RC (yes, fresh install of windows and empires)
I' m still curious how this could happen :/

Anyway :D the new materials looks good :D

 

the problem with the grass is that it's so detailed that from a little distance, it just appears to be plain green (as you can see from the shots above)

and while the grass didn't look quite as good close up before, there wasn't this problem.

that detail adjuster idea that came up earlier was cool.

 

The grass does have a detail texture. The grass texture itself is 128x128.

 

I find it rather strange that people have problems with how the grass looks like from above. I really like it. It won't be easy to get it more realistic imo.
And i like the illusion of depth you have now, with the grass being darker on some places, as if the grassy plain isn't nearly as flat as it actually is => realistic

 

Don't get me wrong, it doesn't look bad, it's just this shot from isle where you can clearly see the repeating pattern:



The lumps and bumps do make it look much more detailed and realistic, but the problem is that every texture has to tile somehow (unless Krenzo fancies some procedural goodness :D) and the more pronounced the pattern is, the more obvious it is when it's tiled.

 

we need clouds making shadows (that move across the terrian). actually, we don't NEED them. but it is what the majority of post "generals" RTS' do to prevent people noticing the texture repetition being noticed.

the clouds can be generated by having a massive translucent texture creating faint cloud like shadows that move just under the skybox... and emp_isle would be perfect for that.