map in the works, looking for suggestions

Discussion in 'Mapping' started by V3N0M, Jun 21, 2009.

  1. V3N0M

    V3N0M Member

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    The project is far from playable, but the geography will be something like this. There will likely be resources concentrated on the islands in the delta, but I need good players to tell me where to take this map
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  2. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    why islands?
     
  3. John Shandy`

    John Shandy` Member

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    Why not, Hamster? Islands are certainly more interesting than pudding forts.

    I think it looks good so far, V3NOM. I'm at a loss for suggestions, but I'll keep an eye on the thread and chime in if I have any later.
     
  4. V3N0M

    V3N0M Member

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    What I do know I'm going to do is make it look less like an island and more like a peninsula. Also, is there any good way to lengthen diagonally placed bridges without warping them?
     
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  5. LordDz

    LordDz Capitan Rainbow Flowers

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    Vertex tool.
     
  6. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    You clearly don't know what you are talking about
     
  7. V3N0M

    V3N0M Member

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    why, does it screw up gameplay somehow?

    Also,
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  8. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    I'm wondering why would you cluster resources on islands of all places
     
  9. V3N0M

    V3N0M Member

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    I didn't say they would all be there. There would be a couple of low output resources on some of the islands and some higher yield ones elsewhere. Also, the bridge from the first map is still there but was not constructed when the screen was taken
     
  10. DrummerX

    DrummerX Empires Tyrant

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    Someone should sig this
     
  11. OuNin

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    Needs more variable terrain, like notflat. See emp_delta.
     
  12. Metal Smith

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    >_> I would not suggest going all out like I did on delta, people did not like that overall as much.

    I would suggest building up the north west side so that it is impassable, and using that to separate the corner into 2 parts. By making it near impossible to access the other side directly, you effectively double the size of the map in terms of distance between bases for vehicle combat. Slaughtered is a great example of extending the map playing area by putting the bases essentially on the same side. This does tend to make infantry combat slightly more important early game and forwards rax much more important, so provide a decent amount of starting resources.

    Also, check out the 3d skybox in emp_coast. That is a great example of how to make the area seem like part of a larger peninsula.

    Start adding buildings and look at your map again. You may find that the map that you envisioned is actually too large to create in hammer, and that you'll have to scale up the map and select a smaller area on the peninsula to fight over.


    Also, Make sure your terrain matches at least the 16x grid lines (every 16 line when zoomed in all the way), preferably having the map line up on the 1024 orangish brown lines, as that's where vis divides it up anyhow.

    again, I wouldn't suggest really rugged terrain, but maybe make part of the terrain slightly sloped (very slightly if it is) to give the land a sliding into the ocean feel.

    Lastly, i would highly suggest making this more of an inlet, and raising the displeacements around the northern and western side of that lake to make it look like a cliff.

    EDIT: Try getting ahold of keef or shandy, they can give you some info for their ventrilo channel, they have a mapper help place in there that they can help you with stuff. Very knowledgeable about mapping in general and empires mapping specifically.
     
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  13. blizzerd

    blizzerd Member

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    thats not how it works, lining up displacements on the grid is nothing more then mapping neatly
     
  14. Metal Smith

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    that was my point. Doing things neatly really helps in the long run. Especially with how large empires maps are.
     
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    blizzerd Member

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    Okay, just making sure you do not have false info yoursel =)
     
  16. OuNin

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    People are dumb and like flat maps where they can liberally place buildings and jack off to their 50 bases.
     
  17. John Shandy`

    John Shandy` Member

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    It's fun.
     
  18. ScardyBob

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    fap fap fap fap......
    Oh, sorry! I was just having fun with my 50 barracks.
     
  19. BitterJesus

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    I'm not gonna bother reading through 2 pages.

    Add 1-2 infantry indestructible

    Have 1 destructible (but very hard to destroy) bridge for vehicles
     
  20. [lodw]keef

    [lodw]keef Hobbit

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    actually building your map displacements on 16x grid makes your life easier in the long run or even higher grid spacing, the worst thing you can do is build your map on 1x grid spacing. Things will simply take forever, you'll have problems lining things up, and you generally will hit the edge of 1024x1024 visleafs more frequently if you build on higher grid powers(requiring less hint/skip brushs around the map, therefore less visleafs). Also building on 16x atleast will make seamless 3dskyboxs ez as pie to make.
     

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