Heavy tanks don't have good enough guns.

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  1. Private Sandbag

    Private Sandbag Member

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    I'm happy with all the other weapons available, but apart from the nuke missile, there isn't a whole lot going for such a lumbering and expensive beast as a heavy tank.

    I wish they could have large 3 slot HE rounds that worked like small artilliary shells. it would put a bit more fear into seeing one.
     
  2. Beerdude26

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    I feel that they should be able to carry slightly more weight before being maxed out. About 100 or 150.
     
  3. ^Dee^

    ^Dee^ Former Super Moderator

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    da, the weight really holds them back from being useful.

    Personally I think tanks should be able to max out on the guns they're intended for and have full armour.

    Like a BE heavy could have 2 rail guns, a nuke and MG with decent armour but couldn't say, have 1 HE and 3 standard cannons, a bio missile and standard missile, MG and awesome armour =o
     
  4. KILLX

    KILLX Banned

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    Definitely. Did you know, that unless you only have amour, no engine or weapons, you cant take advantage of all the amour its capable of carrying? Unless its stripped of engine and weapons its maxed about 2 plates from its max capacity.

    They need to change that. Its really not fair that BE gets 3 extra cannon slots. Thats pretty much handing them a 10 second tank killer.
     
  5. Simon

    Simon Banned

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    I think they should have more maximum heat personally.... No point having salvo missile launchers and a few cannons if you get redded after shooting one or two volleys.
     
  6. KILLX

    KILLX Banned

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    Thats ridiculous. The nuke is already over powered, the only fair thing about it is the heat levels created. Without over heating, nukes would be spammed into bases.
     
  7. Cyber(Gunner_Yeyz)

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    Lies.
    NF Heavy gets so much extra weight and armor.
     
  8. KILLX

    KILLX Banned

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    Hmm, extra paper amour verses 2 rail guns...

    There should be a self destruct mechanism added, and its power is based on current loaded ordnance. So basically, it detonates all on board weapons in the launch tubes, proportionate to the umber of shells/rounds/missiles on board. The amour would dampen the effect so its not over kill, only problem is I'd just suicide bomb anything that moves.
     
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  9. Cyber(Gunner_Yeyz)

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    The paper armor, well don't get paper armor and that fix that.
    That suicide idea sounds like crap.
    I mean, I win!!! HA HA.
    The NF light tank is in red. He blows up.
    You are in green with no front armor. You die.
    That sounds horrible.
     
  10. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    heavytanks are no match to my NF lt or my BE med
     
  11. KILLX

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    Wow your linear. I mention ordnance detonation and you immediately assume instant kill. It would have to be balanced, maybe just strong enough to take out a jeep with composite armor.
     
  12. Shinzon

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    the BE heavy is a pansy... its rear armor is often left as weak as the meds, but its alot slower; so with a light tank use that extra speed monuver around, and voila its like killing an expensive AVF...

    Whats the point of the tank having 2 extra guns if they rarley get to use them?

    (Though the combination of 2 HE's on a heavy is quite something; you sacrifice the missles)
     
  13. Awrethien

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    Yea I always use the heavy with two HE cannons. Sometimes can be even better than art when taking out farms.

    As for over heating get real. Do you know how fast you dump heat with advanced coolant and engie with extra coolant? You can empty the mags of twin rail cannons withought over heating.
     
  14. FalconX

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    I'm currently redoing the weights and the entire armor system. I just havn't had enough time to work on it. =\
     
  15. Awrethien

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    Hey dont worry. Quality before quantity. The only one you should listen to about hurring up would be Krenzo.
     
  16. decemberscalm

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    OMG *giggles* a jeep with composite armor, that made me laugh
     
  17. Private Sandbag

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    I've never found an ultimate vehicle:
    2 Rail guns , linked
    Explosive Machine gun
    homing salvo rocket launcher
    FULL composite armour!

    true, it costs near enough to 3 grand, but you feel like a porn star in that thing.

    But perhaps if the heat capacity was increased quite a bit, and the nuke launcher heat creation was upped to match, so basically all other weapons went down as they should.

    but I was really looking for a cannon that made the tank feel like a tank. nothing does that for me really. There should be a cannon to match the power of the nuke launcher. the nuke launcher is the only thing on a heavy that makes me think "shit, theres a heavy coming"
     
  18. dizzyone

    dizzyone I've been drinking, heavily

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    if you wanna be really lame (like me) ---> railgun or HE + plasma mg + bio warhead. Shoot the bio first then the railgun or HE a few times and plasma him till he dies. If he has regen armor, shoot a few more bio :>

    its fun to play with them, if theres more tankers, bio em both atleast twice and plasma them in turns :D
     
  19. Cyber(Gunner_Yeyz)

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    If you know what your doing in BE Heavy, they can take out anything.
     
  20. MOOtant

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    Nuke/Bio + 2xHE + plasma/uranium = great tank. Such tanks works like 1.5 of a med tank (in large battle). But you can also buy 2 med tanks for the same price. (there is/was small weight problem with heavies so you couldn't take full armor + best weapons, I think that it was fixed on BSID RD)

    (I could miss the ratios but anyway you can buy more effective ammount of med tanks for the same price)
     

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