Give enhanced senses a range buff.

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  1. urethra franklin

    urethra franklin Member

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    Enhanced senses is almost useless for general use (apart trying to find hidden scouts) and as it's the only thing many players use scout for, why is it way more useless than an engineer camera? Engineers have turrets, revive, camera's, seismics, and calculator, while scouts have sense, a nerf rifle, hide, stun bombs, and sabotage (a really shitty substitute for deconstruction).
     
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  2. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    It's fucking awesome, it's just that no-one plays Scout in a way that makes it useful because there's virtually no way in which you can play Scout and be useful.
     
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  3. urethra franklin

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    It's ok on district or escort (where camera's are still way more useful) but it has such a short range that it's really frustrating. I was in the alleyway that detours from mid flag to the second nf flag and enhanced senses only showed enemies that were at the very entrance to the alley, meaning by the time I saw them on the map they were already rounding the corner and could see me before I could react to my map. And that example is the best case for enhanced senses. On a map like canyon it's completely useless to use when not in a base, it has shorter range than a camera, doesn't give targets, and engineers can even drop two cameras at later stages of the game.
     
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  4. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    Enhanced senses doesn't show enemy players on your teams minimaps right? Maybe it would be a tad nice if it did? I don't think the range should be real high, as much as I hate sneaky scouts sabbing my base I don't think I should find them as soon as I change my class.

    I think scouts are very useful if there is one running with a engy and a gren, being able to instantly take out half a buildings health and and make any players spawn in with half health is pretty useful in my opinion. Just no one knows how to play the offensive scout.

    Anyways besides finding hidden scouts I think the main use of enhanced senses is a heads up of when the enemy is coming near you. Especially useful when you are in a enemy base sabbing things. Personally if I'm doing that I grab speed upgrade and either melee upgrade or accuracy upgrade. Too busy being a gren or an engineer to really find how effective this is though.
     
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  5. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    Give scout senses the old camera wall hack diamonds to squad members. :)
    We no need com targets! We have a scout in our squad.
    Scout = needed and usefull member of the team and priority target of the enemy.
     
    ViroMan, Dec 21, 2013
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  6. BigTeef

    BigTeef Bootleg Headshot master

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    Are you suggesting the scout, goes ahead and marks targets for his team.
    Are you implying that the scout actually becomes....


    A fucking scout?

    HOLY SHIT GUYS
    LETS MAKE THE SCOUT
    A FUCKING SCOUT
    (im not attacking you, ive just been saying this for a long time and always ignored)
     
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  7. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    Borderline OP but I'd love to try It.
     
    D.D.D. Destroyer, Dec 22, 2013
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  8. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    ya its could be abused as fuck... sneek your hidden scout into enemies turtled base and have him broadcast everyones position for your arty strikes. ^_^
     
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  9. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    He can already do it....nobody does it though
     
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  10. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    I do but, I am a nobody.
     
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  11. D.D.D. Destroyer

    D.D.D. Destroyer Member Staff Member Moderator

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    Nobody takes advantage*

    Also I suspect enh senses to be broken but I'd need to test them.
     
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  12. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    Last time I played they worked... just shitty range.
     
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  13. Sgt.Security

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    Considering the size of maps, the range of enhanced sense is wide enough IMO.
    If you really want to buff enhanced sense, buff other things rather than range.
     
    Sgt.Security, Dec 23, 2013
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  14. urethra franklin

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    The range is nowhere near enough, even on district (I believe the smallest map) It's barely useful because anywhere you can see an enemy with it, you also have a direct line of sight (except for sewers obviously). And that's the smallest/least open map. In a big open map like canyon it becomes only ever useful for checking bases for sabotage scouts. I don't know I wish it was something that gave you awareness of the battlefield instead of just a tool for finding a sab scout in the be vf.
     
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  15. Lazybum

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    I still think it is handy when you are in another base sabbing it. Knowing where the enemy is and how many there are is useful in my opinion. Enhanced senses is nice on escort too, because there is quite a few people that like doing squad hide rushes. Having just one scout renders those rushes mostly worthless I say.

    Viroman's idea sounds neat, maybe make it so it only effects those in your squad and not the whole team? Just so it isn't super overpowered.
     
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  16. ViroMan

    ViroMan Black Hole (*sniff*) Bully

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    It really isn't mine I have heard it before. It may have been Teef but I swear I heard it a long long time ago.
     
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  17. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    So few words, so much truth...


    ...and so much sad :(
     
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  18. urethra franklin

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    Maybe it's because trickster is failing as the ideas guy.
     
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  19. Spike

    Spike Long Live The King!

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    why cant the scout just get removed then everyone would be happy there just annoying little shits
     
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  20. Lazybum

    Lazybum :D Staff Member Moderator

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    But but they are suppose to get shotguns at some point and I like shotguns.
     
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