Genadier Revamp

What about we replace the Mortar with a grenade launcher that fires impact grenades?

Or even better, add it to the grenadier arsenal.

:D

 

What the heck? :confused:

 

nobody is suggesting removing the mortar. it's getting a different skin so it looks different but it'll behave the same.

the RPG is (i think) getting a much needed buff too.

 

Every class bunny hops around. It's not a gren thing that people do, and there is a reason jumping takes stamina. How about this a rifleman bunny hopping so another rifleman can't shoot him?! woah holy cow nerf riflemen!

The point is if hes out in the open and you have trouble shooting him with your lazers then stop walking around alone. I have to use the mowtar for indrect fire or else I instantly die.

 

"Every class bunny hops around. "

When?
I only see people walking and sprinting, and then seeing an enemy and then rooting themselves to the ground.

 

When they are trying to not get shot at point blank range.

 

You see the gren bunny hop because he's the only one that doesn't kill in a clip (i.e. 1 mortar) and has a reload time like a bitch. All you have to do is add "Dance, Bitch!" as a voiceover during reloads and it's complete.

I didn't think there was a point in me bothering with this thread tbh, sorry Spawn, but it's just that infantry dynamics will change a lot once either riflemen are nerfed, or every other infantry weapon is buffed...that it's difficult to call at this time.

I just want to play the game when I have a fairly good fighting chance against a rifleman as another class. I don't mind riflemen being buffed, but lasting 5s against even incompetent riflemen is not ON. Cowering behind a wall and trying to build a level 1 MG to save me is not the way I like infantry combat...i'd rather you give the rifleman an actual grenade launcher (with bouncing nades etc) and unbuff. Then you can say he is useful against most things in the field and he wouldn't have to be 2s deadly against other classes.

/rambling rant.

 

# of mines to kill a well armored heavy?

As for the armor detection, engineres need to be able to see what is damaged on there own tanks without having to get in them.

 

bunnyhopping was a lot more common before they fixed dig in, which promotes not dodging like a noob

 

god dammit. please leave defusal alone. it's not overpowered, mines are overpowered and lame. i don't care who has the defusal skill, i just want it to be a hard counter to mines.

 

Back when bullets went where your gun pointed?
I forgot, sorry.

@Pickled
It removes one of the few crappy tools the grenadier has at his disposal completely lategame.
Even more nerfs for the nerfadier.

 

In the first slot i think you could saftly go with just normal mines and seconday attack to blow them up. This would then make it sort of sathel charge and sort of AP mines, since you can blow the mines up when enemy infantry walk over them, and if you really need to drop all 8 mines next to a building and use secondary attack.

Additionally i think defusual should be moved to scout and not make you totally invounrable to mines, but like soundspawn wrote create a mine jammer field around you that would be the real quality and allow you to defuse them close range, alternativly let defuse be a innherit skill for scouts but the radar jammer field a skill.

But it would be blatently overpowered if mines were the only thing ingame that you need a skill to take down. So i propose that mines should have hp and be destroyable, one mines maybe the health of 2 rpg hits, a riflemen should be able to kill one mine with his start grenades. This would also solve the issue with mine stacking.

And on the mortar grenade launcher i have no problem here. A lot of peopel posting here can't obviously read since Soundspawn that the current mortar would be untouched except for namn and model. But then again it is no suprise that this forums crawls with retards. I really like the new real mortar, i have been lobbing for it since i started plaing this game, a real mortar is exactly what we need to be able to kill folk directly behind walls, also a real use of artillery feedback for infantry since then you could bomb them from out of line of sight.

On the RPG, start with lowring health and armour for tanks and balance them, especially make standard armour not 1337 lightyears worse then anyother amrour, then continue balance the rpg and missile turret. So first hand, nerf tank healt then buff infnatry anti tank means.

 

So the grenadier is nerfed against the grenadier? Good argument.