Evolution and the origine of the species debate

If god is omnipotent but cannot intervene in our affairs then he is useless to us.
If god is not omnipotent but can intervene in our affairs then he's still fairly useless.
If god is omnipotent and able to intervene he's a fucking sadist who enjoys the daily tortures millions of people suffer each day.
If god is neither omnipotent nor able then he's not a god is he?

 

Well, we pissed him off eating his fruit so now he just watches us...

Hmm, now that i think about it, that should be a new commandment:

0. thou shall not eat from your neighbor apple tree.

As Bertrand Russell said Religion is so logic. (well he actually didnot say that...)

 

The dark picture of the "dark ages" was painted in the 19th century.
They even faked weapons and torture instruments to make the medival
as grimm and dark looking as possible. Saying this period in history was
without inovation and progress is just ignorant and stupid. Sure those
thinking and inventing was only done by a small group of people but it
was the same in rome or greek.

 

Firstoff do I need to list every inhuman practic and tradition performed by the greeks and romans? Do you think it was better?

Yeah what happened to galileo, are you actually aware that galileo made up stuff cause he had no physical proof to show that his theory was right? So the
whole trail was all about people penetrating his made up stuff like the tide theory.

Oh and btw galileo =/ medival it later

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_technology
That list is devinitely not complete

 

Please give a bibliographical reference for that conclusion. You then are saying that even Stephen Hawking is wrong:

Stephen Hawking wrote: """Galileo, perhaps more than any other single person, was responsible for the birth of modern science.""" ("Galileo and the Birth of Modern Science, by Stephen Hawking, American Heritage's Invention & Technology, Spring 2009, Vol. 24, No. 1, p. 36)

Galileo had a theory about the tides that was wrong. He did not dismiss some facts that were contradictory but tried to explain them in other ways.

 

But the living standard was decreased in this time. You can see this from the changing average body size.

 

Righto, I completely understand your point, but this seems like the mother of all exercises in futility: defending hypotheses that have the least amount of evidence going for them. I'm now more flabbergasted than angry. You're allowed to spend your time however you like, I guess :p

 

Well if modern science is about lying and making up evidence he is responsible.

I only said that its wrong to believe that their was no invention and progress
in the medival time. That has nothing to do with living standarts.

 

That is basically all that matters. Everything he mentioned there. That should seriously end ANY discussion about there ever being a god, even if there is.

 

What if god is something that cant understand human thinking and thinks we all have superfuntime :D I mean like a gigantic mantis or some stuff like that

 

You can understand that quite easily.
Oh he's a giant mantis.

 

ALL HAIL THE GREAT MANTIS QUEEN

 

THERE IS YOUR GOD NOW

 

Alright, then I believe I owe you an apology concerning your usefulness to humankind. Your statement to blizzerd "thats where you become a religious follower of science" threw me off, now I realize that you just tend to take science and put it on equal footing as religions, while I (and blizzerd) take religion and put it on equal footing as science, but the end result is the same: the hypotheses for religions are shown to be ridiculously weak compared to those of science. I think we can all agree on that.

 

Religion doesn't use scientific method therefore it loses any scientific argument by default.