Angry rant suggestions

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Slithzerikai, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    First off, it's pretty tiring when people call you a whiner when you point out several overpowered and underpowered things because it heavily irritates you, I'll be naming those things now, although I don't have much hope in achieving anything by doing so;

    - Brenodi Heavy rifle: Stronger than any rifleman weapon the Faction gets, does more damage, seemingly more accurate than the heavy rifle, and even if not- it's automatic, the perfect murder machine! Very fun if you're playing the Brenodi Empire no doubt, but I've seen millions of people fall under it, of which a few hundred times I myself got shot dead in about two or three hits. I'd like to have the NF heavy rifle find a brother in the BE heavy rifle, not being a small arthritic nephew to it.

    - HE Cannon: Just this... I think nothing should be able to kill a thing faster than an Engineer with repair upgrade can repair it, I bet noone will agree with me on this one, but I can try.

    - Nukes and HE in general: They're infantry rippers for people that can't hit a barn with a real nuke- they just shoot close to it and everything around it will die, mostly used on infantry for easy kill farming, I think some people should put effort in getting kills. I know most people are going to disagree with me on this one, because they know who I'm talking about.

    To close this up; yes, I'm a sore loser- I get irritated when being mass killed by these things and lose a game because the opposite side spam them like you couldn't believe, it also irritates me if my team uses advantages like that against the weaker team, don't worry about me being a hypocrit. I doubt this thread will get anything done but at least I got it out of me.
     
  2. arklansman

    arklansman Member

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    -The NFAR is nearly as powerful as the BEHR, plus it has better ironsights for long distances. And the NF .50cal may be semi-auto, but it fires as fast as you click, does 60 dmg (as opposed to the BEHR's 50), and has no recoil at all.

    -HE isnt overpowered. Actually 2x standard cannons are better. (as long as you don't have a shitty engine)

    -Yeah, pretty much.
     
  3. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    WALLLS!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    word
     
  4. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    Since the third was agreed upon, what about making tank cannons and missiles wholely ineffective against infantry? I know nukes are nukes, but encouraging people to get several clicks with one kill is surely not what's intended, right?
     
  5. dizzyone

    dizzyone I've been drinking, heavily

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    Then you should make infantry ineffective against vehicles too, doesnt really work.
     
  6. Trid3nt

    Trid3nt Member

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    What he means is that tanks can easily take out a huge amount of people in a chokepoint with a nuke, whereas it should be one by one with a machine gun
     
  7. dizzyone

    dizzyone I've been drinking, heavily

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    shooting a nuke overheats the tank and has a long reload time, it should be seen as a waste of a nuke shooting it at infantry. If all the infantry is stacked near each other, well face it, they deserved it. Nuke is an end game weapon, requires a heavy tank and lots of cash, let alone any tank that doesnt have a good engine or armor will be killed quickly, even with a nuke. If you're still cluster fucking as infantry in the end game and lose because of a nuke, you're obviously doing something horribly wrong.

    The nuke is the slow and heavy damage weapon, everygame has something similar, saying its too easy to kill people is quite obvious, it has heavy downsides and besides that its easy to counter, making the user having a nuke being screwed, even if he gets a few free kills here and there.
    I'm not even sure why I'm responding to this, it reminds me of the 10 thousand other rants on other game forums where people are screaming ZOMG NERF because they don't take the time to realise how to counter said weapon. The nuke might need a nerf, but not in power IMO
     
  8. Private Sandbag

    Private Sandbag Member

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    here's an idea:

    what if using a weapon that overheats your chassis past the point at which it is at maximum damages your hull?

    for instance, imagine a nuke fills up 50% of your heat bar, and that you are already at 80%. then you fire your nuke. your heatbar goes to 100% and you also get the other 30% in health loss.

    sound fair?
     
  9. FalconX

    FalconX Developer

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    See I was just going to make it such that mounting a nuke meant that you were either very slow, or had little other weaponry, or had no armor.

    It kindof nerfs the nuke in a reasonable way. I just have to do it... =\
     
  10. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    lol i would love to see nuke tanks with no armor.. they already kill them selfs when i run up alongside em..
     
  11. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    Making it incredibly slow and weak would be an alternative. And dizzyone, the situation at which I got so annoyed about it was Grim Gibber spawncamping at cdr_canyon, where one nuke kills everyone upon spawn, combined with a HE cannon to wipe out everyone in one, two shells whilst his nuke reloaded.
     
  12. knighttemplar

    knighttemplar Member

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    Counter with Arty?
     
  13. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    Make the artillery tank completely ineffective against either buildings or infantry, and mediocre against tanks.
     
  14. knighttemplar

    knighttemplar Member

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    against Buildings I'd say
     
  15. Jcw87

    Jcw87 Member

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    wha? Arty is SUPPOSED to kill buildings, especially those pesky level 3 turrets.
     
  16. dizzyone

    dizzyone I've been drinking, heavily

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    so the arty shouldnt do anything at all? This is just silly.
    Lets say it was ineffective against buildings and mediocre against tank, so now its a infantry killer? You mean the same kind of infantry killer like a nuke? Yeh exactly...

    Or its ineffective against infantry and mediocre against tanks, so it just sucks horribly and is a useless thing, have you even spent time thinking about these 'suggestions'?

    Instead of ranting about things taken out of context, why not suggest something like removing nukes from other game types than classic maps, that would make sense.
     
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  17. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    I just want the Artillery tank to have a disadvantage. You currently can kill everything before it can get to you, so armor doesn't matter. You can demolish buildings and tanks in just a few shots, and nearly all infantry headed your way in one shell.

    And I tried the 'getting nukes removed on flag maps' thing around 1.3 to 1.5 or something, and nothing came out of it.
     
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  18. Solokiller

    Solokiller Member

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    I didn't know you could "getto" people :p
     
  19. dizzyone

    dizzyone I've been drinking, heavily

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    ghetto superstar.

    Artillery tank has disadvantages, not just one, many.

    Also you can't expect something to happen after suggesting it, going from 'remove nukes from escort' to 'make tanks ineffective against infantry' is a huge step.
     
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  20. Slithzerikai

    Slithzerikai I for one am glad the NF SMG 3 is gone

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    Well, it escalated as it was more and more abused, naturally.
     

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