[2.24] Light Tanks/AFV.

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  1. Dawgas

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    every time that goddamn fucking argument is made I SEE this so fucking hard that I'm a fucking psychic until I stop looking at this shit

    god forbid we take the high road (making everything else USEFUL) instead of the low road (nobody is allowed to have fun)
     
  2. Chris0132'

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    If a jeep can break a heavy it makes the heavy useless.

    Which would you prefer, heavies to be useless, or jeeps to be useless?
     
  3. Dawgas

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    jeeps are already useless

    if they became FREE this might not be such a bad idea
     
  4. PreDominance

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    My original suggestion is the somehow balance out the fact that an LT can get under ANY tank.

    That is in no way a bad suggestion.
     
  5. blizzerd

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    tanks should be crushed when other tanks fall on top

    even a heavy getting a light on top should receive damage of some sort

    tanks arent made to provide support against tanks driving over them
     
  6. ScardyBob

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    I have no problem taking on jeep/LTs, but I see this as the source of a lot of game-breaking imbalance and general absurdity. Getting under a heavier vehicle with a lighter one makes

    [1] The heavier tank useless (so either fix this or remove those tanks)
    [2] Heavier tanks ripe for jeep griefing

    Empire's doesn't care about realism as long as the end result is fun, but I see this problem as both unrealistic and not fun.
     
  7. Dawgas

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    its unrealistic yes, but its FUN, and last I checked you can't just do this shit at will, you have to drive at a certain part of the vehicle, and you can always turn to not get flipped/driven under

    you just don't like losing
     
  8. PreDominance

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    Maybe you should just take a huge cup of STFU as you do not know what you're talking about.
     
  9. Dawgas

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    I daresay, it is you who does not know what they are talking about
     
  10. PreDominance

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    Well, for one thing, you haven't proved ANYTHING at all in any of your posts.

    Also, if you're not mature enough and you try to start an e-war (to extend your e-penis FTW), then I question why you're even here.
     
  11. Chris0132'

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    I can't say I find it fun to have jeeps and lights stuck under me.
     
  12. Dawgas

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    well, that's because you're losing

    its natural to say that you're not having fun when you're not winning, its okay

    why don't you, like, try to maneuver off the vehicle
     
  13. Chris0132'

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    Because the wheels aren't on the ground and it doesn't respond when I tell it to do stuff.

    I also don't enjoy ramming people either, I fail to see the appeal of it.

    It's basically like sniping, I don't like having to be on the watch for tanks trying to ram me, and I don't like being encouraged to deviate from my favoured tactics because others are more effective, the game got rid of sniping and now I don't have to suffer snipers, or become one to deal with enemy snipers, jeep ramming was similarly removed some versions ago, and it seems logical that similar tactics should be discouraged now.
     
  14. OuNin

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    Tanks just need to be more solid. Jeep ramming should remove armor of both vehicles. Jeep should take major damage (plate and then some hull damage) where the tanks should take less than a plate.
     
  15. PreDominance

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    You're missing something though. The LT doesn't need to be under it, it has to be within 3 feet of it. That's when the high-mounted cannon can't hit it.
     
  16. OuNin

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    If the light tank stalled whenever it hit something, the opponent would have some elbow room.
     
  17. ScardyBob

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    And you do? I play games to have fun by winning, not losing. However, I don't mind losing because I was beat by a more skillful player. That just means I need to work harder to get better.

    However, I do mind losing because of a silly feature/bug/artifact of the source engine. Losing a 1000+ res heavy because a jeep can drive under me and drag me into the water is just plain fail. My heavy should be able to crush that jeep like a beer can.
     
  18. Dawgas

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    I don't get it

    I just can't comprehend your argument

    it looks like to me that you're arguing against yourself, however
     
  19. Chris0132'

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    He doesn't like that lights can jam under his heavy (which his heavy can't do) and he can't do anything about it (which you can't always if they get stuck, because the controls don't do anything).
     
  20. Metal Smith

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    stalling is supposed to be a draw back of 3 phase. but stalling doesn't do anything to a tank. Cept i believe it puts it into "neutral" which increases it's heat dissipation. so, hitting a light tank actually helps it >_>
     

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