Why is it

Discussion in 'Game Play' started by Demented, Aug 20, 2009.

  1. Demented

    Demented Member

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    That the scout rifle sways? (But only in scope mode.)
    Is the scout that much more incompetent than the rifleman? Or is the scope powered by a hamster wheel and the round loaded into the chamber by a Rube Goldberg device? Incidentally, that would probably explain why it has such a long cycle rate.
     
  2. Chris0132'

    Chris0132' Developer

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    So that its harder to snipe.
     
  3. Empty

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    Which is funny because it's not that easy without the sway.
     
  4. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    haha really? Yeah pointing and clicking is really hard.. lemme look up the thread where krenzo added it.

    edit: I can quote it cause the thread is locked but here

    http://forums.empiresmod.com/showpost.php?p=73074&postcount=59

    Also keep in mind you could 1 hit kill with it back then.
     
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  5. Demented

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    It's not really a matter of difficulty (since only about two people are any good with the scout rifle, and they'll always be good at it no matter how hard it gets the nerf bat) just a matter of being completely arbitrary. I want a justification.

    Also, that thread ain't public. Which doesn't matter for anyone except me, since I'm the only one without privileges in this thread.
     
  6. Empty

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    Well now that it does piss damage there's no reason for the sway, is there?
     
  7. Demented

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    Well, we wouldn't want it to be capable of sniping people at almost one fifth the effectiveness of the BECAR. That would just destroy Empires.
     
  8. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    Basically it happened like this

    Forum goer 1: Hey, Sniper is OP, I always get killed when I'm trying to build my turret.
    Forum goer 2: ZOMG I get killed by Sniper too, cover, whats that?
    Rest of the forums: ZOMG WE GOTS TO NERF SNIPAH NAO!
     
  9. o_O

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    More like

    Forum goer 1: Damn, snipers are so annoying, they just sit around outside the rax sniping.
    Forum goer 2: Damn, I always get shot in the head by people I can't see, snipers are so annoying.
    Sniper: NO REMOVES ME NO REMOVES ME D: D: D:
    Shotgun: im not dun yet srry dewd ._.

    And so we get the scout
     
  10. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    FG3452: I haven't had any troubles with sniper rifles, but now that FG1 and FG2 mention it, I suppose Sniper rifle must be OP.
     
  11. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    maybe because you weren't here when the onehitkill faggotry was at it's worst:P
     
  12. Firedrill

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    should turn it into a auto Gas style rifle, 3-4 shots a kill rapid fire 5 shot clip and looong reload.. lol, and for be make it the classic reload after each shot and 2-3 hits for a kill (1hs + 1 body or 2 hs's), then make it so birds fly at you when your scoped and poop ice cream.. zomg . rocky road anyone?
     
  13. -Mayama-

    -Mayama- MANLY MAN BITCH

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    Afaik the reason was not the gun itself it was the problem that people tend to camp a hill the whole game and do nothing else than lay prone and snipe.
     
  14. Empty

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    The sway didn't change much.
    Now that it's basically a fairly weak but longest range weapon, perhaps we can give it the scope back for long range suppressing fire.

    I try to use it as a support weapon, softening up targets and such, but the scope makes even bodyshots hard.
     
  15. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    softening targets when enemy can heal fast and get points for it that makes them stronger like in empires misses the point imo
     
  16. Demented

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    Fixed by nerfage (and hitboxes), but dumb engineer is still dumb.

    Fixed by nerfage and by SMG1 as default.

    Fixed by making it no longer onehitkill.

    Again, fixed by making SMG1 the default weapon.

    etc.
     
  17. Empty

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    Maybe if people actually healed regularly, you very rarely get heals without asking for it.
     

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