Update emp_escort

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  1. ScardyBob

    ScardyBob Member

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    SUGGESTION: Make the following changes to emp_escort
    1. Change BE ticket system to where BE starts with less tickets, but has them added for each flag they capture
    2. Remove the following research items from BE
      • Heavies
      • Jeeps
      • Plasma Cannon/Machine Gun
      • Rail Cannon
      • Composite armor
    3. Place turret no-build zones in certain chokepoints (such as under the bridge at the last flag)

    Escort is a fun map, but can devolve into a 1+ hour episode in fail due to the above problems. I believe that recent changes make these changes possible (particularly the ticket added per flag issue).
     
  2. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    i agree

    jeeps are fun, but since 9 mining is gone they have no purpose whatsoever
     
  3. Bass

    Bass Member

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    Heavy should be taken away, dual HE kills too fast.
     
  4. -Mayama-

    -Mayama- MANLY MAN BITCH

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    turret no build zones are excuses for bad map design
     
  5. blizzerd

    blizzerd Member

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    generally thats true, but noone wants a lvl 3 mgun turret aimed on a spawn
     
  6. ScardyBob

    ScardyBob Member

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    Probably, but it would be faster and require less work (e.g. new emp_escort for 2.24/2.25?) to just throw in no build brushes. There are only two or three areas where a single NF turret can stop the entirety of BE in its tracks.
     
  7. DrummerX

    DrummerX Empires Tyrant

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    i dont' think we can stop jeeps just yet, that'll have to be added in i believe.
     
  8. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    I don't think BE needs a nerf
     
  9. ScardyBob

    ScardyBob Member

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    Actually, I think my suggestions would be a slight buff to BE. No more noobs making dual plasma/rail composite heavies that die in 5 seconds.
     
  10. communism

    communism poof

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    First off, Jeep spawn camping 2nd flag is pure win. And I've capped it alone with a jeep tons of times. Getting rid of heavies and composite would help the noob factor and teach new players how to make GOOD tanks however...BUT KEEP JEEPS HOE
     
  11. -=SIP=-

    -=SIP=- Member

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    I my opinion the map is perfect. Don't change anything. There are often epic fights where only a few seconds decides about win or defeat.

    And it's good that there are sometimes noobish tank drivers at BE side. With only good tank drivers NF would have no chance at the first flags.
     
  12. communism

    communism poof

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    Your favorite team on escort? NF. HOW DID I KNOW!
    People stack NF on escort for the fact that they are the funnest to play on the map. BE however gets stuck with an hour of people buying 150 res APC's and driving without defusal.
    The map needs changes and you can't deny that
     
  13. -=SIP=-

    -=SIP=- Member

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    No. The last rounds I mostly played BE. Driving an APC (of course with defusal) and Heavy Machine Gun is fun and gives you many easy kills on the first flags.
    Only for the last flag even a good BE team needs a kind of strategy to destroy the wall.

    But I also played with some noobish BE tank drivers who were afraid to rush. Then I even took a jeep to push the heavies into battle. But it's not a failure in map design. People just have to learn how to play escort.
     
  14. communism

    communism poof

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    Dunno what kind of dumbfounded team your fighting but I have never seen a lone APC win escort. Even with patton or HSM, the apc noob riler upper champs
     
  15. -=SIP=-

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    A lone APC can capture the first flag if BE players immediatelly spawn when APC arrived on flag.
    For the next flags of course you need more fire power.
     
  16. ScardyBob

    ScardyBob Member

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    You can do escort with only APCs. I've seen the map end within 10 min from 2-3 APC rushes. Of course, NF needs to be made of major fail for that to happen.

    lol! It sounds like they can't remove jeeps yet so they may have to stay now. I'm still opposed to jeeps, because I've seen too many noobs build a jeep and drive it to the 4th, 5th flag rather than just spawn forward.
     
  17. [PRKL] Werihukka

    [PRKL] Werihukka Member

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    I've seen a lot of experienced players drive jeeps in escort and being more useful than half of the team with their tanks.
     
  18. Nickierv

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    If you change how the tickets, how will NF win? Its not a bad idea, as it gets rid of the hour long failfest, but can you clarify.

    eidt: found the way to change it to, but what will you change it to?
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2009
  19. ScardyBob

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    Make it so BE starts with 600 tickets (10 minutes) and add 600 tickets for every flag they capture.
     

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