Turtling in Empires

In Empires I haved notice that the tatic,turtling is nonexistant.Turtling is a stratgey in which both sides don't start fighting intill they have all tech and have their armies built up.But durning this "cold war" as some call it, there is Battles over resource points.

The main tatic right now in empires is to spam and rush tanks and viechles.There is no stratgey in it at all.You can at least release a version for turtlers or have a turtling gamemode at least!.
The servers that don't allow rushing and only allow turtling are either empty or under-populated!

 

I had no idea there isn't strategy involved in empires at this current moment.


Maybe you should quit playing mittoes or the training server?

 

If you want a turtle game, you have to secure the choke points early on,

IE on Canyon, the east and west choke points, wall and turret them up and you will get something similar to the turtle effect, however its more of a trench war.

Eventually one side will get the upper hand and break threw, however.

 

ahahaha... I think you should play the map called "emp_money" you might like it and think it has alot of strategy lol

Also realize that the only servers that let you spam tanks to rush in the beginning are servers that changed the official settings(upped res).. A real game of empires does not work that way.. Too bad we don't have the PUG's going to let the community realize how much better an official settings match is

 

Empires is about fighting with the other side, not spending an hour researching everything to defeat your enemy in 5 minutes or drag the game out to hours long.

 

But still it needs some sort of stratagy

 

Stalemate isn't strategy

 

I've been trying to be nice, but:

 

But I love doing that!
And isn't it little strategy to tell your troops where they should go?

KM Server *cough* .. I don't know what timezone you're playing on, but I have trouble getting into it (40 man server, sometimes it says 42/40 ).

 

...What?
I've seen turtling. Ten minutes of dissatisfying infantry combat serving as a distraction to one team getting a few research upgrades, then building super tanks that either rush the other team's commander or seize the entire rest of the map in two minutes.

Rushing and turtling go hand in hand in this mod.
Maybe you're thinking of wars of attrition.

 

Paintskillz failed.

 

Somehow I feel this thread is going similiar like this one:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53153

Just a little, not much, but a little.

 

YOU MADE MY DAY!
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Turtling isn't strategic either, it's both teams sitting around doing nothing, or fighting with no tanks.

This isn't an RTS, your units will not be content to sit around your base waiting for people to advance, this is an aggressive game.

Turtling is impossible in empires, not simply nonexistant.

I do nothing but turtle in RTS games, and even I can see that trying to bring it to empires is a really silly idea.

 

Connecting from the steam menu (not ingame), through the server menu their works to.

 

Perhaps there should be a couple additional techs that would aid turtling. Perhaps a tech to boost resource income? Or maybe implement towers, or pillboxes, or level four turrets that can only be built around the comm and can be placed on top built walls.

I like the level four turrets up on walls myself.

 

I'm so sick of hearing people bitching about rushing in empires. Learn to be more aggressive, or this isn't the game for you. Also, rushing takes extreme amounts of skill, especially if it's an early-game comm rush.

 

Rushing I don't like, but it isn't required in empires, empires is merely an aggressive game, rushing doesn't guarantee a win.

But not attacking or at least skirmishing with the enemy does guarantee a loss. Which is right and proper for a multiplayer FPS game.

 

It's not right. Turret limit in non-league games should be more than 24. 32 or 48. Team going for level 3 turrets invests a lot of time (some resources too) and gets only a few turrets. The team that does usual bio or physics research can rape them with HE/ranged CN then (or few minutes later).

Another thing: games in Empires when turrets are so limited are much shorter than earlier. The main turtling weapon is crippled. Imagine that we have 24 turrets built in NF and BE has 20 people in their team. 10 grenadiers kill 2 turrets each and .

Resources: tanks are cheaper than ever but turret cost is the same as in Empires 1.0.

Empires is less fun when all you do all the time is only rushing, rushing and rushing.