Trickster doesnt believe that the BEcar is the best weapon ingame

Discussion in 'Game Play' started by -Mayama-, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. Grantrithor

    Grantrithor Member

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    BECAR is a bitch to use, it can be great, but it won't work with my standards, because its for patient people, and i'm always jumping into places and shooting like a stoner on ecstasy(happens a lot on glycencity) and you best hope that tk is off, or else I'd oblilerate all my teams tickets on how trigger happy I am. If i'm walking down a hall, and some numbnuts pops his head out BANG PING PANG EXPLOSIONS PYOO PYOO CANNON! and hes dead(teabag).
     
  2. Demented

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    The problem with the BECAR is it encourages you to burst, burst, burst, kill (in theory it should just be 'burst', but I don't get headshots and my sticky stuns don't do 100 damage, so it's a personal problem). Then the next guy pops up and you do it again. And again. And again. And before you know it, you're out of ammo and you're all "whhaaaaat?" while not realizing that you have just killed 20 people.

    The BEAR doesn't have that problem. It's got more 'dakka'.
     
  3. Empty

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    Yeah but the BEAR only kills about 4 people.

    I went from 2 points on isle eysterday to 15 in about 3 minutes just by using the BECAR with some walls and accuracy upgrade.
     
  4. Demented

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    'Dakka' as in sound (and ammo usage), rather than effectiveness or damage.
     
  5. Empty

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    I agree, the sound is ass.
     
  6. Demented

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    If I had to think of a way to describe the BEAR's sound as ass, it would be Rosie O'donnel crapping gunpowder.
     
  7. Empty

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    The BECARs sound, not the BEAR
     
  8. Demented

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    Oh, right. The BECAR is more of an SBD.
     
  9. Headshotmaster

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    harryhoot was covering me with this gun while I was building a barracks.

    lets just say it was 2 vs 6, and we got the barracks up ^_^
     
  10. teh_ham

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    On escort, there's a little ledge on the BE battlements next to some crates which allow for great BECAR sniping.
     
  11. Silk

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    As BE i only use the BECAR. It kills in 2 burst, 3 on extreme distance.
    It's deadly accurate.

    Is it better than the BEAR? I don't know, i can't remember the last time i used it. I can still own with the NFAR, so i assume the BEAR will also be effective. It's just ... different.
     
  12. Z100000M

    Z100000M Vithered Weteran

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    my only problem with bear is that when trying to aim the zoom is minimal , model covers much of the screen and you cant see the ironsights
     
  13. Opie

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    Sounds to me like back in the day, 1.0X. The BE rifle vs the NF rifle. Everyone swore the BE Rifle was far superior, too easy to shoot and the NF rifle sucked. Simon and I thought otherwise, the NF rifle was by far better, we just knew how to use it.

    As for this particular debate, I have no idea, I don't play. (Goes back into hole)
     
  14. MiamiHeat87

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    I'm sorry.. I don't use hacks.. I have normal human accuracy and don't care to spend time on being able to do that on a consistent basis. I like my BEAR.
     
  15. Empty

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    I can do that easy.
     
  16. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    So, i decided that I would at least try the BECAR for the sake of testing, to see if I was right, or Mayama was. This is what I found:

    Unless you're absolutely sure you won't advance, and that you're camping in one spot, like holding a rax, then take the BEAR. If however, you're not going to be getting close to the enemy under any circumstances, the BECAR is probably a better choice.

    In other words, 9 times out of 10, take the BEAR, and occasionally the BECAR. I found the BECAR to be a bit shitty without accuracy upgrade, but then again, so is the BEAR. Now the BECAR isn't that good if you're advancing unless you are an absolute top-level roflwhore, which I'm not. And I'm talking about the top few ones here. It's ok for them because chances are, they're quick enough to turn round and stop anyone getting too close, but if you let someone get within even the length of a barracks and a half to you, you're basically fucked with that weapon, because you can't put enough shots down in that range. And a lot of combat happens at that range, as opposed to long range.

    It really seems map based, but the long story short is, the BEAR is far more versatile and can be used in any situation, where the BECAR can't. But just because you can use the BEAR at long ranges, doesn't make it the best weapon for the job. That's where the CAR fits in. But really, all the CAR does is just take the job of what the scout rifle was.
     
  17. Demented

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    I'm guessing that's a result of the way you use it or the way you fight. It works great without accuracy upgrade, probably because it fires so slowly between bursts. That said, if you aren't as effective with the BECAR, it doesn't really matter what the theoretical potential of the weapon is, aye?

    I find the BEAR to be an embarassing weapon without accuracy upgrade. Unfortunately for me, I like melee upgrade (even though it gets used 1% of the time, and generally when just shooting someone would work better) which means no accuracy upgrade. That said, I use the BEAR anyway. I'd rather kill one person and die with some leftover ammo than kill five and run around naked, just because it's more comfortable to play that way.
     
  18. Silk

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    I always rush with the BECAR so i disagree. I like Rax whoring (never INSIDE the rax though !!) and can kill easily 4 or 5 before they get me, at a distance somewhere between 25 and 1 meters.

    The damage is just so awesome (I always take damage increase with the becar first) that 2 bursts will kill anyone, and so they're dead before they can hit you. Well they have time to shoot back but they can't hit me, cause i can sprint and jump all i want and still not miss a single shot with it. With the AR's i always crouch down when shooting and that usually gets me killed. If i don't crouch then i can't hit anything so that usually gets me killed. With the becar i have absolutely no problem with either of those.

    Also because of the bursts it's nice that you can say that the weapon nevers runs out of ammo, ever.

    Again it's just a matter of personal interest in ways of fighting. Just so you know it's a very effective rush weapon as well.
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2009
  19. teh_ham

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    BEAR is for people who require good firepower for a medium amount of effort.

    BECAR is for people who require very good firepower for a high amount of effort.

    If you have a bit of cover to hide behind, you can strafe in and out of it - bursting at your target every so often. This is perfectly feasible due to the fact that the accuracy goes back to normal after firing in about a second (which is a lot shorter than it takes for the weapon to be able to fire again).
     
  20. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Oh and on top of ALL of this. Run + gun is far more fun than Camp and...whatever.
     

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