SMOKE, and VEHICLE-ZOOMING

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  1. FN198

    FN198 Member

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    Last time I posted about smoke and vehicle zoom I was told that
    Smoke will act more like a screen rather than an eye irritant. (in 2.25)
    (in other words, you can't see through it, but not out of it anymore. in 2.25 smoke will effectively CONCEAL object A on one side from object B on the otherside of the smoke.)


    Zoom, however, still needs to be implemented
    smoke might have been fixed, but my zoom suggestion was shot down as unnecessary. a couple people thought that vehicles were fine without zoom.

    I think that giving all vehicles zooming capabilities to up to 4x at least would help vehicles aim at targets just within draw distance effectively. It would also help with spotting infantry and assigning accurate waypoints as a squad lead. With the new weapons having considerably less arc, I think that adding a zoom will greatly improve the potential of vehicles strategic value. generally, empires needs to be slowed down a bit to the point where taking it slow and steady is the best way to go.
     
  2. pickled_heretic

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    empires is at its best when it is fast and arcadey.

    slow and steady is for retards. zoom for vehicles was deemed unnecessary because it is unnecessary.
     
  3. FN198

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    this ain't unreal tournament pickled. we need more strategic tools. empires is the most fun when strategy and tactics are advanced to the highest levels possible.

    + why not add zoom? sniper rifles have them, the iron-sights on rifles have a less sensitive/more accurate scope as well. putting them on vehicles may detract from the bumpercar syndrome. WHICH IS :(
     
  4. pickled_heretic

    pickled_heretic Member

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    No, empires is the most fun when I rape everyone's face.

    The bumpercar syndrome is a symptom of tanks with too many HP and too weak weapons. And anyway, this type of gameplay has its own tactical considerations. making tanks more dangerous at long ranges just changes the kind of tactics, it doesn't add more of them.
     
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  5. Omneh

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    Hear hear, except I think empires is more fun when I rape everyone's face.

    If you want strategy and tactics, go play one of the myriad modern warfare simulators out there.
     
  6. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Vehicle zoom is a horrible suggestion. Close quarters is far more fun than long distance.
     
  7. FN198

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    i heard empires was a real time STRATEGY/FIRST PERSON shooter game.. lolwut?

    i'm so naive
     
  8. pickled_heretic

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    yes. yes you are.

    in practicality, the only thing zoom would be useful for is turret sniping with missiles or infantry sniping with machine guns, both of which are stupid concepts to begin with.
     
  9. Empty

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    If you can fucking hit something at the edge of draw distance with anything but the 50cal/STD MG, I'm impressed.
     
  10. LordDz

    LordDz Capitan Rainbow Flowers

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    I like 3phase lts. Kind of fighter vs fighter but on the ground. More speed in the tanks, PLEASE!

    (Nerf armor)
     
  11. FN198

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    turret sniping is a bad idea?

    huh, last time i checked the point of having guns was so you could shoot them from a distance. this also happens to be the way vehicle mounted machineguns are used in combat today. you're stupid, get out
     
  12. Empty

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    long range MGs suck for infantry. Bad gameplay mechanic.

    MGs should just be removed altogether, they dominate infantry unfairly.
     
  13. Demented

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    Fixed.
    Otherwise, you know, arty, and missile sniping.
     
  14. Empty

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    LR CN is shit.
    You can't fire it while moving or it misses by miles, and it still drops off, just retardedly.

    Arty you don't even LOOK at the target, and ML sniping is only good against BUILDINGS.

    BECAUSE THEY'RE HUGE.
     
  15. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    Then maybe we should remove extended ranged, artillery, missiles, and make cannons explode 2 feet in front of you, then you can have all the exciting CQB you want.
     
  16. Empty

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    I'm saying zoom is stupid and useless for our vehicles.

    We don't have long range tank weapons except the MGs, and they're OP pieces of shit
     
  17. Demented

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    1. Don't care.

    2. Already covered that. See: "by actually looking directly at it".
     
  18. Emp_Recruit

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    I've never been in a tank and thought "oh wow I certainly could use some zoom"
     
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    1. Don't Care
    2. Don't Care

    Zoom is unnecessary and a waste of time.
    Can we move onto useful suggestions please.
     
  20. Fricken Hamster

    Fricken Hamster Mr. Super Serious

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    How is it a waste of time?
    People who want to use it can use it, people who don't, don't.
    Now go to your retarded socialist empires suggestions.
     

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