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    Dec 29, 2016 4:49 AM - Ranger: Check-in.
    Dec 29, 2016 5:56 PM - vipervicki: LOL @sweaty
    Dec 29, 2016 5:57 PM - vipervicki: and that looks extemely gross
    Dec 30, 2016 12:27 AM - Lazybum: forums are so dead, where's my daily dose of a laugh?
    Dec 30, 2016 12:27 AM - Lazybum: I DEMAND TO BE ENTERTAINED
    Dec 30, 2016 1:09 AM - vipervicki: play wurm with us lots of chatting going on there
     
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    Dec 30, 2016 at 5:04 AM - Ranger: I basicanly only sleep when the server is down. 6-8 hours. And I don't sleep immediately after shut down
    Dec 30, 2016 at 5:04 AM - Ranger: Times zones can be convenient!
    Dec 30, 2016 at 5:30 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Dec 30, 2016 at 5:30 PM - vipervicki: love the game
     
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    Dec 31, 2016 4:33 AM - Neoony: well, lol
    Dec 31, 2016 4:33 AM - Neoony: like no offense
    Dec 31, 2016 4:33 AM - Neoony: but you just made empires sound 10 years older
    Dec 31, 2016 4:41 AM - Neoony: his so lol
    Dec 31, 2016 4:42 AM - Neoony: t
    Dec 31, 2016 4:42 AM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/63499ccaf23ebb7e1ec26f86594a0ba5.png
    Dec 31, 2016 4:49 AM - Neoony: despite some sounds and effects
    Dec 31, 2016 4:49 AM - Neoony: I definitely feel like its older than hl
    Dec 31, 2016 4:49 AM - Neoony: wtf
    Dec 31, 2016 4:55 AM - Neoony: like idk
    Dec 31, 2016 4:56 AM - Neoony: some sounds...mostly explosions make it sounds ok
    Dec 31, 2016 4:56 AM - Neoony: I guess because they dont sound so off......as they used to sound...better positioning
    Dec 31, 2016 4:56 AM - Neoony: but overall
    Dec 31, 2016 4:56 AM - Neoony: so much older than it was
    Dec 31, 2016 4:57 AM - Neoony: out of stamina i like
    Dec 31, 2016 4:57 AM - Neoony: some explosions i like
    Dec 31, 2016 4:57 AM - Neoony: but some ounds
    Dec 31, 2016 4:57 AM - Neoony: dik
    Dec 31, 2016 4:57 AM - Neoony: idk
    Dec 31, 2016 4:58 AM - Neoony: just overall
    Dec 31, 2016 4:58 AM - Neoony: like an older game than it really was
    Dec 31, 2016 4:58 AM - Neoony: sorry to break it D:
    Dec 31, 2016 4:59 AM - Neoony: but I definitely like how sounds play a bigger role
    Dec 31, 2016 5:00 AM - Neoony: you can hear them more often
    Dec 31, 2016 5:00 AM - Neoony: and much more better positioning
    Dec 31, 2016 5:05 AM - Neoony: for some reason my voice chat key does nothing D:
    Dec 31, 2016 5:11 AM - Neoony: if mls sometimes not made you panic
    Dec 31, 2016 5:11 AM - Neoony: now they will
    Dec 31, 2016 5:12 AM - Neoony: like holy shit
    Dec 31, 2016 5:13 AM - Neoony: pls get that sound out of my head
    Dec 31, 2016 5:13 AM - Neoony: I will have nightmares now
    Dec 31, 2016 5:20 AM - Neoony: wow
    Dec 31, 2016 5:20 AM - Neoony: these ml sounds put me in coma
    Dec 31, 2016 5:20 AM - Neoony: is that intended?
    Dec 31, 2016 5:27 AM - Neoony: like idk what to say
    Dec 31, 2016 5:27 AM - Neoony: just
    Dec 31, 2016 5:28 AM - Neoony: [​IMG]
    Dec 31, 2016 5:36 AM - Neoony: just few sounds needs fixing
    Dec 31, 2016 5:36 AM - Neoony: and its ok
    Dec 31, 2016 5:50 AM - Ranger: Holy duck Neoony.
    Dec 31, 2016 5:50 AM - Ranger: l*
    Dec 31, 2016 6:11 AM - Neoony: the duck
    Dec 31, 2016 6:11 AM - Neoony: duck
    Dec 31, 2016 6:11 AM - Neoony: duc
    Dec 31, 2016 6:11 AM - Neoony: du
    Dec 31, 2016 6:11 AM - Neoony: d
    Dec 31, 2016 6:12 AM - Neoony: .
    Dec 31, 2016 6:12 AM - Neoony: wtf was that
    Dec 31, 2016 6:12 AM - Neoony: idk
    Dec 31, 2016 6:26 AM - Neoony: Iam still wondering why emp forums has so many guests
    Dec 31, 2016 6:27 AM - Neoony: or if its related to the issue the site was having to the overload of some cheap hosting it was running on
    Dec 31, 2016 6:27 AM - Neoony: just lol
    Dec 31, 2016 6:28 AM - Neoony: I just really fucking wonder
    Dec 31, 2016 6:28 AM - Neoony: lol
    Dec 31, 2016 6:30 AM - Neoony: well, what can you do when you wanna play empires, but the only person in the game is pires
    Dec 31, 2016 6:30 AM - Neoony: hell
    Dec 31, 2016 6:30 AM - Neoony: we need pires for the forums
    Dec 31, 2016 6:32 AM - Neoony: https://xenforo.com/community/threads/ai-chatbot-mod.88273/
    Dec 31, 2016 6:33 AM - Neoony: :grinimp: xD
    Dec 31, 2016 6:33 AM - Neoony: ¨just kidding xD
    Dec 31, 2016 6:35 AM - Neoony: there is this game on steam, ShellShock Live
    Dec 31, 2016 6:35 AM - Neoony: reminds me of gren
    Dec 31, 2016 6:35 AM - Neoony: yum
    Dec 31, 2016 6:35 AM - Neoony: yummm
    Dec 31, 2016 6:36 AM - Neoony: just a bit slow D:
    Dec 31, 2016 6:36 AM - Neoony: what else can replace the empires gameplay?
    Dec 31, 2016 6:36 AM - Neoony: nothin?
    Dec 31, 2016 6:36 AM - Neoony: a hole in my life? :D
    Dec 31, 2016 6:36 AM - Neoony: :D
    Dec 31, 2016 6:37 AM - Ranger: Many things can replace empires
    Dec 31, 2016 6:37 AM - Neoony: like what
    Dec 31, 2016 6:37 AM - Neoony: like in the same somewhat experiance
    Dec 31, 2016 6:37 AM - Ranger: another gaym
    Dec 31, 2016 6:37 AM - Neoony: experience
    Dec 31, 2016 6:37 AM - Neoony: yeah
    Dec 31, 2016 6:37 AM - Neoony: not like that
    Dec 31, 2016 6:38 AM - Neoony: actually
    Dec 31, 2016 6:38 AM - Ranger: so u asking a substitute for empires
    Dec 31, 2016 6:38 AM - Neoony: the closest seems to me something like quake
    Dec 31, 2016 6:38 AM - Ranger: hm there's non. empire is crappy in a unique way!
    Dec 31, 2016 6:38 AM - Neoony: for some creepy reason
    Dec 31, 2016 6:38 AM - Neoony: just the arcade of it
    Dec 31, 2016 6:39 AM - Neoony: that adrenaline :D
    Dec 31, 2016 6:39 AM - Neoony: of perfect shots :D
    Dec 31, 2016 6:39 AM - Neoony: just fuck
    Dec 31, 2016 6:39 AM - Neoony: many substitutes to that
    Dec 31, 2016 6:39 AM - Neoony: but just
    Dec 31, 2016 6:39 AM - Neoony: not like empires
    Dec 31, 2016 6:40 AM - Neoony: not that combination
    Dec 31, 2016 6:40 AM - Neoony: thats where its unique
    Dec 31, 2016 6:41 AM - Neoony: I just like empires because of how small it is
    Dec 31, 2016 6:41 AM - Neoony: but then its a problem to play
    Dec 31, 2016 6:41 AM - Neoony: just empires loves to be on a balance of something
    Dec 31, 2016 6:42 AM - Neoony: balance of living and dying
    Dec 31, 2016 6:42 AM - Neoony: of the whole game xD
    Dec 31, 2016 6:42 AM - Neoony: xD
    Dec 31, 2016 6:42 AM - Neoony: balance meaning, near the line
    Dec 31, 2016 6:43 AM - Neoony: not sure how else to describe
    Dec 31, 2016 6:43 AM - Ranger: we need to build a place for empires to protect it from the dangers of the outside world. it's uniqueness makes it of unparallelelleleled importance for the survival of the whole doggo race.
    Dec 31, 2016 6:43 AM - Ranger: its
    Dec 31, 2016 6:43 AM - Neoony: holy shit yeah
    Dec 31, 2016 6:43 AM - Neoony: never thought of that :D
    Dec 31, 2016 6:43 AM - Neoony: to protect :D
    Dec 31, 2016 6:44 AM - Neoony: protect it from the misters dead ones
    Dec 31, 2016 6:44 AM - Neoony: lol
     
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    Jan 1, 2017 at 5:06 AM - CRITAWAKETS: this new year starts in the same way
    Jan 1, 2017 at 5:06 AM - CRITAWAKETS: With a nightclub shooting
    Jan 1, 2017 at 5:26 AM - complete_: something bad happened in a world with 8 billion people? wow crazy
    Jan 1, 2017 at 5:27 AM - complete_: hi vicki nobody was bombed 600 times over the holiday like you said might happen
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:02 AM - Ranger: fireworks dont count as bombies D:
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:41 AM - CRITAWAKETS: 2016 emulation in a nutshell
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:42 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Dolphin 5.0 increases pant sales at walmart by 600%, Desmume lead coder found to have been sabotaging for years preliminary locay WI-FI code that someone put all their time into.
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:58 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Atleast i have good news for DS emulation and this year's emulation scene in general.
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:58 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Someone is deciding to finally make a new emulator after like what, 7 years?
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:58 AM - CRITAWAKETS: This time by someone that is actually competent and likes DS Wifi/Wireless support
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:59 AM - CRITAWAKETS: And also likes pokemon instead of hating it to the point of having it broken for years and breaking other games because of his hate
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM - Avatarix: ay
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM - Avatarix: can i haz my ip unbanned cause i need to use proxy?
    Jan 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM - CRITAWAKETS: 2017 has plans for empires, i can predict the future.
    Jan 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM - CRITAWAKETS: First we will see some great updates then we will make some PUGs.
    Jan 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM - CRITAWAKETS: And then well this is going to be bleak
    Jan 1, 2017 at 4:27 PM - CRITAWAKETS: Server drama will completely destroy the community with things such as unfair bans on the only popular server.
    Jan 1, 2017 at 4:28 PM - CRITAWAKETS: Drama erupts between the scripter and the users for making changes that just benefit him and his playstyle
    Jan 1, 2017 at 4:28 PM - CRITAWAKETS: Massbanning happens
    Jan 1, 2017 at 4:28 PM - CRITAWAKETS: Empires dies due to almost no veterans playing the game
    Jan 1, 2017 at 5:27 PM - Avatarix: well, what can we do to bring them back?
    Jan 1, 2017 at 5:28 PM - Avatarix: oh wait, they are viral and will scare new players off
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:27 PM - Señor_Awesome: hey let's repeat january of last year that worked out well right
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:28 PM - Señor_Awesome: community totally wasn't dead in the water for 2 months
    Jan 1, 2017 at 6:29 PM - Señor_Awesome: then we can put little red text over the shoutbox again and threaten bans
    Jan 1, 2017 at 7:14 PM - A-z-K: Guns don't kill people rappers do
    Jan 1, 2017 at 8:16 PM - complete_: hi guys remember when i said my ssd broke it turns out it was just loose inside my laptop
    Jan 1, 2017 at 8:16 PM - complete_: oopsie
    Jan 1, 2017 at 8:50 PM - Neoony: good you said
    Jan 1, 2017 at 8:51 PM - Neoony: next time please find out why it probably happened xD or atleast try
    Jan 1, 2017 at 9:00 PM - PwnedYoAss: This will mark the year of Krenzo's return! Calling it.
    Jan 1, 2017 at 10:15 PM - Neoony: :o
    Jan 1, 2017 at 10:48 PM - Neoony: hmm, I wonder if this could be redone for squads voice
    Jan 1, 2017 at 10:48 PM - Neoony: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=274576
    Jan 1, 2017 at 10:48 PM - Neoony: or just might be useful for admin
    Jan 1, 2017 at 10:50 PM - Neoony: But then I guess its possible to route the voice in source?
    Jan 1, 2017 at 10:50 PM - Neoony: easily?
    Jan 1, 2017 at 10:57 PM - LT.: Avatarix - You aren't welcome in our community. Do you honestly think we will welcome you with open arms after our last encounter? It's not our problem that you must use a proxy. Deal with the consequences of your actions
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Paradox: This is your community now LT?
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Paradox: Cause I thought it was just your server
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Paradox: or are you guys finally ready to admit
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Paradox: The server is basicly the community and the game all together
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:22 PM - LT.: No idea why you are responding to a post that has nothing to do with you. To clarify Although we know Avatarix is on the server, he is not welcome. That was the main point. Hop you had a good Christmas
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:22 PM - vipervicki: if you want him you can have him paradox :)
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Paradox: I dont want him, avatarix is a douchebag first class
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:32 PM - vipervicki: we agree again :)
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Paradox: Im just talking about in general, the server is the community and this entire game
    Jan 1, 2017 at 11:33 PM - vipervicki: i think the forums is the community sicne alot more on forum than play on server
    Jan 2, 2017 at 3:29 AM - CRITAWAKETS: I like avatarix
    Jan 2, 2017 at 3:29 AM - CRITAWAKETS: i guess im getting banned now.
    Jan 2, 2017 at 3:29 AM - CRITAWAKETS: It was a fun time with the community.
    Jan 2, 2017 at 3:29 AM - Neoony: cya
    Jan 2, 2017 at 3:31 AM - CRITAWAKETS: see ya later, sucker!
    Jan 2, 2017 at 3:55 AM - Lazybum: Reading out of context thread and older off topic threads and I have one question
    Jan 2, 2017 at 3:55 AM - Lazybum: Where did the fun go?
     
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    Jan 2, 2017 4:17 AM - Kidpaler: Nowhere, it's still there. We can all post there just like you can, it's just we lost interest in it. Someone should do another one of those forum games where its the mystery thing etc
    Jan 2, 2017 4:20 AM - CRITAWAKETS: EPIC and Viper were radiating fun
    Jan 2, 2017 4:20 AM - CRITAWAKETS: now NUBS is radiating boredom
    Jan 2, 2017 4:20 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Oh and also alot of veterans left
    Jan 2, 2017 4:20 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Mcguyver, Bigteef, alot of Viroman
    Jan 2, 2017 4:21 AM - CRITAWAKETS: I renember Mcguver telling me to get a 4k monitor.
    Jan 2, 2017 4:57 AM - Kidpaler: Axeman is back, hes fun as hell still
    Jan 2, 2017 9:07 AM - Ranger: Can tanks shoot fireworks?
    Jan 2, 2017 3:35 PM - Avatarix: paradox
    Jan 2, 2017 3:38 PM - Paradox: what
    Jan 2, 2017 3:39 PM - Avatarix: ur a funny guy
    Jan 2, 2017 3:40 PM - A-z-K: gaaaay
    Jan 2, 2017 3:40 PM - Avatarix: <3
    Jan 2, 2017 3:41 PM - Paradox: yer a cunt bag
    Jan 2, 2017 3:41 PM - Avatarix: oh you silly, why use such teasing names?
    Jan 2, 2017 3:42 PM - Thexa4: Be nice.
    Jan 2, 2017 3:42 PM - Avatarix: also @Thexa4 check hipchat
    Jan 2, 2017 3:43 PM - Avatarix: and be nice indeed! not being a good boy is bad for community and scares new players away!
    Jan 2, 2017 3:45 PM - Paradox: Avatarix instead of trying to be smart and using shit arguments just say you dont like the fucking sound ya bitch ass bitch
    Jan 2, 2017 3:46 PM - Avatarix: did you even read the tl;dr
    Jan 2, 2017 3:46 PM - Avatarix: yo stoopid butch
    Jan 2, 2017 3:47 PM - Thexa4: Last warning, both of you, either be constructive or stop talking
    Jan 2, 2017 3:47 PM - Avatarix: also stop projecting 'realism' on even more weapons - nukes don't ahve to be 1000kT of force or chainguns to use .33 cal or something like that
    Jan 2, 2017 3:47 PM - Avatarix: this was constructive ok
    Jan 2, 2017 3:48 PM - Paradox: ARe you serious right now
    Jan 2, 2017 3:48 PM - Paradox: I cant tell
    Jan 2, 2017 3:48 PM - Paradox: my entire point was that realism is fucking stupid
    Jan 2, 2017 3:48 PM - Paradox: you're the one using the realism argument
    Jan 2, 2017 3:48 PM - Avatarix: YOU are using this argument - B
    Jan 2, 2017 3:48 PM - Paradox: The fuck are you smoking
    Jan 2, 2017 3:48 PM - Avatarix: E weapons are advanced hence they are quiet
    Jan 2, 2017 3:49 PM - Paradox: "Yes, Paradox realism isn't a good argument in a videogame. So let guns with small calibres sound like heavy calibre weapons"
    Jan 2, 2017 3:49 PM - Paradox: Wasnt that sarcastic?
    Jan 2, 2017 3:49 PM - Paradox: you used a smiley ;)
    Jan 2, 2017 3:49 PM - Paradox: which made it sound like pure sarcasm
    Jan 2, 2017 3:50 PM - Avatarix: was it?
    Jan 2, 2017 3:51 PM - Avatarix: hey, im just bumping a stupid thread made of stupid mistake that is pushing for changing the sounds with no need to just for change
    Jan 2, 2017 3:51 PM - Paradox: Im not sure, but seeing you said it, and yer a sarcastic **** it;d be very probable
    Jan 2, 2017 3:51 PM - Paradox: btw why is the shoutbox getting moderated more than the forum threads lol
    Jan 2, 2017 3:51 PM - Avatarix: yeah, we even have god damn Off Topic subforum if you didnt know
    Jan 2, 2017 3:52 PM - Avatarix: mr staff
    Jan 2, 2017 3:53 PM - Avatarix: i feel like im going to be perma& here too beacuse im not constructive :3
    Jan 2, 2017 4:09 PM - Señor_Awesome: It's fair if shoutbox moderated more imo because it is literally the first thing somebody sees when they visit these forums
    Jan 2, 2017 4:12 PM - Lazybum: Some would say it's an honest experince of the empires forum
    Jan 2, 2017 4:12 PM - Señor_Awesome: Yes but I thought we were trying to hide that under sheets so when somebody pulls them back they could at least be a little surprised
    Jan 2, 2017 6:25 PM - complete_: shut up bitch!
    Jan 2, 2017 7:17 PM - Ranger: bichhhh
    Jan 2, 2017 11:39 PM - Señor_Awesome: I looked at the empires server list and it actually made me kind of sad... 19 players on NUBS and all these other servers sitting empty
    Jan 2, 2017 11:56 PM - Kidpaler: One of them is vanilla, one of them is practice, and one of them is bots. Kinda like old Empires where there would be one server with players.... I can hardly think of a time that there were multiple servers with players that wasnt a big event
    Jan 2, 2017 11:59 PM - Kidpaler: Its a lot better than a couple years ago where 5v5 was considered high pop
    Jan 3, 2017 12:11 AM - Señor_Awesome: in the in-game browser (which I haven't used for years) you can only see those servers and 'Wired_4fun's Memehouse' but in the steam server browser I also see ModRiot and Anitalink... which are running older versions now
    Jan 3, 2017 12:19 AM - Kidpaler: Yea, those are old versions. Wired's one he setup to help me test my map which is still broken :/ if anyone wants to help me with that I'd appreciate it.
    Jan 3, 2017 2:27 AM - flasche: whats broken?
     
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    Jan 3, 2017 at 7:54 AM - Kidpaler: It crashes when you switch off the map. Not when you are loading the map, not when you are playing the map, but after the map is finished it crashes trying to go to another map.
    Jan 3, 2017 at 11:32 AM - vipervicki: hi destroyer..server is up
    Jan 3, 2017 at 11:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: hi vicki, forums are still unmoderated like the wild west
    Jan 3, 2017 at 1:07 PM - vipervicki: lol yup thats for sure
    Jan 3, 2017 at 1:09 PM - vipervicki: a friend on my steam friends has a yellow name..anyone know how they got that or what it means?
    Jan 3, 2017 at 1:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/5lfii6/steam_yellow_nickname_and_profile_outline/
    Jan 3, 2017 at 3:12 PM - vipervicki: id have to register to see answer :( thx anyway :)
    Jan 3, 2017 at 3:13 PM - vipervicki: btw ddd I fixed rangers account its all good now
    Jan 3, 2017 at 3:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wat. no you dont
    Jan 3, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Lazybum: ddd I thought you rage quit forums
    Jan 3, 2017 at 3:27 PM - Lazybum: why come back?
    Jan 3, 2017 at 3:28 PM - Lazybum: you were so close to being freeeeeeeeeee
    Jan 3, 2017 at 4:02 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: been a year, figured i would drop by
    Jan 3, 2017 at 4:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you'll be pleased to know that the experience is very similar to ~13+ months ago
    Jan 3, 2017 at 8:29 PM - Avatarix: no new people came so why would it change
    Jan 3, 2017 at 8:32 PM - flasche: :o
    Jan 3, 2017 at 8:32 PM - flasche: destroyer
    Jan 3, 2017 at 8:32 PM - flasche: hi
    Jan 3, 2017 at 10:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: whaddup
    Jan 3, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Xyaminou: o/
    Jan 3, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: XYA
    Jan 3, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you back and stuff? dnd beckons
    Jan 3, 2017 at 11:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: preferably before my exams
    Jan 4, 2017 at 12:41 AM - flasche: ok donald kidpaler trump, i just played and the sounds suck
    Jan 4, 2017 at 12:42 AM - flasche: especially smg
    Jan 4, 2017 at 12:42 AM - flasche: and the missiles are odd too
    Jan 4, 2017 at 12:42 AM - flasche: but youll get there
    Jan 4, 2017 at 12:43 AM - flasche: im confident
    Jan 4, 2017 at 1:11 AM - flasche: omg and the pistols eew
    Jan 4, 2017 at 1:13 AM - Ranger: Listening to this while playing Wurm Wot?
    Jan 4, 2017 at 1:51 AM - Ranger: Gentlemen,
    Jan 4, 2017 at 1:51 AM - Ranger: It's a nuclear device
     
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    Jan 4, 2017 4:34 AM - CRITAWAKETS: I love the noise when something is homing onto your tank
    Jan 4, 2017 4:34 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Now i cant hear it anymore its so loud why
    Jan 4, 2017 6:10 AM - Polyesta:
    Jan 4, 2017 6:19 AM - Neoony: lol wtf
    Jan 4, 2017 4:14 PM - vipervicki: seems like the update killed empires..hope all is fixed soon
    Jan 4, 2017 4:21 PM - flasche: there were people playing yesterday
    Jan 4, 2017 4:45 PM - A-z-K: Whats broken? I didnt notice anything when I played yesterday
    Jan 4, 2017 4:50 PM - flasche: someone said salvo homing would be broken
    Jan 4, 2017 4:50 PM - flasche: idk tho, i didnt research it after he told me that
    Jan 4, 2017 4:52 PM - flasche: but damn it will take a while to get used to the new sounds. i hope DT change them for the better
    Jan 4, 2017 4:54 PM - flasche: also vicki you know what really kills empires, the server browser which is no longer available directly out of game. you got to open the library then click view -> servers. or am i missing something?
    Jan 4, 2017 5:05 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you're missing RPGs flying through tanks
    Jan 4, 2017 5:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: escort is great fun now, BE meds can literally run circles around enemies as long as they stay away from stickies and 9 mines
    Jan 4, 2017 5:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and playing from behind trying to take out mediums sieging you is A++
    Jan 4, 2017 5:06 PM - vipervicki: not many have been playing
    Jan 4, 2017 5:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: disagree
    Jan 4, 2017 5:07 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: http://steamcharts.com/app/17740
    Jan 4, 2017 5:08 PM - vipervicki: average player count 10 :(
    Jan 4, 2017 5:09 PM - vipervicki: not alot to me
    Jan 4, 2017 5:10 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: while i agree, thep atch has brought back some players
    Jan 4, 2017 5:10 PM - vipervicki: I wonder if that 10 includes pires O.o
    Jan 4, 2017 5:11 PM - vipervicki: patches always bring bacl players..for a few days..curiosity seekers then they leave again..its how empires has always been
    Jan 4, 2017 5:11 PM - vipervicki: back*
    Jan 4, 2017 5:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: why yes of course, but the increase is there
    Jan 4, 2017 5:12 PM - vipervicki: right now 7 playing and that includes pires
    Jan 4, 2017 5:13 PM - vipervicki: so actually 6
    Jan 4, 2017 5:17 PM - vipervicki: when players come back and stay I will consider that an increase.
    Jan 4, 2017 6:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well judging by the longer-term trend either some of them ARE staying, or more people are coming by: http://steamcharts.com/app/17740#3m
    Jan 4, 2017 6:09 PM - Ranger: IDK WHAat you're talking about. I can still see all Empires servers in the steam browser
    Jan 4, 2017 6:40 PM - Neoony: @flasche go steam settings - interface - set taskbar preferences - and there set it to show servers
    Jan 4, 2017 6:40 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/21bb181e309c39eb3434192ccd1c6d1c.png
    Jan 4, 2017 6:41 PM - Neoony: And yeah, Gren has his second hand crippled
    Jan 4, 2017 6:42 PM - Neoony: RPG misses like 80% of the time
    Jan 4, 2017 6:42 PM - Neoony: I mean that it passes through vehicles
    Jan 4, 2017 6:42 PM - Neoony: Guided or not
    Jan 4, 2017 6:43 PM - Neoony: I might have actually like 3 occasions when it happened with mortar too, but not too sure there
    Jan 4, 2017 6:43 PM - Neoony: had*
    Jan 4, 2017 6:49 PM - Neoony: oh and btw, I believe https://steamdb.info/app/17740/graphs/ should be more accurate than steamcharts...it seems to update MUCH more often
    Jan 4, 2017 6:50 PM - Neoony: oh, and it has nice notes about the patches on the graphs
    Jan 4, 2017 6:56 PM - vipervicki: yeah at times my settings change and the server option is gone so I do what neoony mentioned and recheck it.
    Jan 4, 2017 6:56 PM - vipervicki: not sure why he gets unchecked though
    Jan 4, 2017 6:56 PM - Neoony: hmm doesnt dissapear for me
    Jan 4, 2017 6:56 PM - vipervicki: it not he lol
    Jan 4, 2017 6:56 PM - vipervicki: has for me several times
    Jan 4, 2017 6:57 PM - Neoony: I actually remember how you told me about the setting
    Jan 4, 2017 6:57 PM - vipervicki: hehe yup
    Jan 4, 2017 6:57 PM - Neoony: been fine since
    Jan 4, 2017 6:57 PM - vipervicki: and someone told me jsut forgot who
    Jan 4, 2017 6:57 PM - vipervicki: in fact jsut the other day it was gone again
    Jan 4, 2017 6:57 PM - vipervicki: had to recheck it
    Jan 4, 2017 6:57 PM - Neoony: yeah, someone....I knew who but also forgot xD
    Jan 4, 2017 6:58 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 4, 2017 6:58 PM - vipervicki: doesnt matter as long as we know now
    Jan 4, 2017 6:58 PM - Neoony: I knew you said someone told you, and you told me xD
    Jan 4, 2017 6:58 PM - vipervicki: and we can pass it on when needed
    Jan 4, 2017 6:58 PM - Neoony: xD
    Jan 4, 2017 6:58 PM - vipervicki: lol k
    Jan 4, 2017 6:59 PM - vipervicki: ya know what sux?
    Jan 4, 2017 6:59 PM - vipervicki: i had tooth extraction and it left me with half a lip and chin always numb
    Jan 4, 2017 7:00 PM - Neoony: like forever<
    Jan 4, 2017 7:00 PM - vipervicki: looks like its permenent i look nromal jsut feels really messed up
    Jan 4, 2017 7:00 PM - Neoony: ?
    Jan 4, 2017 7:00 PM - vipervicki: yeah nerve got damaged
    Jan 4, 2017 7:01 PM - vipervicki: like permement novacaine on my face
    Jan 4, 2017 7:01 PM - Neoony: wow, that can happen with tooth extraction? :o
    Jan 4, 2017 7:01 PM - Neoony: how long u got it now?
    Jan 4, 2017 7:01 PM - vipervicki: yes :(
    Jan 4, 2017 7:01 PM - vipervicki: 3 weeks so far
    Jan 4, 2017 7:01 PM - Neoony: oh damn
    Jan 4, 2017 7:01 PM - vipervicki: yeah its messed up
    Jan 4, 2017 7:02 PM - vipervicki: when i eat i dont realize im chewing the inside of my lip til i see blood
    Jan 4, 2017 7:02 PM - Neoony: aw
    Jan 4, 2017 7:02 PM - vipervicki: yeah so I try and be extra careful
    Jan 4, 2017 7:03 PM - vipervicki: ya know what sux worse than that by a million?
    Jan 4, 2017 7:04 PM - vipervicki: I lsoe both of my dogs had to say goodbye to one july 30 and my other 2 days ago..no dogs now and it hurts like hell
    Jan 4, 2017 7:04 PM - Neoony: what? D:
    Jan 4, 2017 7:04 PM - vipervicki: lost*
    Jan 4, 2017 7:04 PM - Neoony: oh damn
    Jan 4, 2017 7:04 PM - Neoony: sorry about them
    Jan 4, 2017 7:04 PM - vipervicki: yeah my house is so empty and quiet i cant stand it
    Jan 4, 2017 7:04 PM - vipervicki: tyvm
    Jan 4, 2017 7:05 PM - vipervicki: im trying to keep busy but doesnt help much
    Jan 4, 2017 7:05 PM - Neoony: well, need more empires players :P
    Jan 4, 2017 7:05 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 4, 2017 7:06 PM - vipervicki: on the weekends maybe
    Jan 4, 2017 7:06 PM - vipervicki: weekdays its worse than dead
    Jan 4, 2017 7:06 PM - vipervicki: only3 people playing
    Jan 4, 2017 7:06 PM - Neoony: or another game heh
    Jan 4, 2017 7:06 PM - vipervicki: ive been playing bf4 and bf1 i love them both and got squad too its alot like empires
    Jan 4, 2017 7:07 PM - vipervicki: one of the past devs is working on squad
    Jan 4, 2017 7:07 PM - vipervicki: its in alpha
    Jan 4, 2017 7:07 PM - vipervicki: past empires dev
    Jan 4, 2017 7:08 PM - vipervicki: forgot who maybe kylgar
    Jan 4, 2017 7:08 PM - Neoony: oh yeah
    Jan 4, 2017 7:09 PM - vipervicki: i hardly play empires anymore for months
    Jan 4, 2017 7:09 PM - vipervicki: i do go in spec now and then to see my buds and chata bit
    Jan 4, 2017 7:09 PM - Neoony: me neither
    Jan 4, 2017 7:09 PM - Neoony: just last few days a bit
    Jan 4, 2017 7:09 PM - vipervicki: yeah communtiy is too toxic for me and im bored with the mpas
    Jan 4, 2017 7:10 PM - Neoony: usually when I had time it was noone in
    Jan 4, 2017 7:10 PM - vipervicki: cant stand the crap they pull in server
    Jan 4, 2017 7:10 PM - vipervicki: not to mention the forums lol
    Jan 4, 2017 7:10 PM - Neoony: heh
    Jan 4, 2017 7:10 PM - Neoony: one worse than the other
    Jan 4, 2017 7:11 PM - vipervicki: yeah its very low population msot of the time now except weekends
    Jan 4, 2017 7:11 PM - vipervicki: very true
    Jan 4, 2017 7:11 PM - vipervicki: or events bring people to play
    Jan 4, 2017 7:12 PM - Neoony: how was the 17th december pug?
    Jan 4, 2017 7:12 PM - Neoony: was my birthday D:
    Jan 4, 2017 7:12 PM - vipervicki: i dont play those kinds of pugs
    Jan 4, 2017 7:12 PM - vipervicki: oooo happy birthday!
    Jan 4, 2017 7:12 PM - Neoony: you guys make one pug and its on my birthday
    Jan 4, 2017 7:12 PM - vipervicki: im not good enough and prefer pugs that are not so rgnaized like we used to have
    Jan 4, 2017 7:13 PM - vipervicki: these pugs now are more like vet pugs we used to have
    Jan 4, 2017 7:13 PM - Neoony: yeah, not much point in trying to organize much with the current playerbase I would say
    Jan 4, 2017 7:13 PM - vipervicki: and i dont feel like being yelled at my team so I dont play these pugs
    Jan 4, 2017 7:13 PM - vipervicki: im a decent engi tho not great but decent
    Jan 4, 2017 7:14 PM - vipervicki: i prefer the opne pugs people knew the time and place and everyone joined..no one picked sides etc
    Jan 4, 2017 7:14 PM - vipervicki: the oens lazy does, which is good im not saying no but they are more for vets
    Jan 4, 2017 7:14 PM - Neoony: yeah
    Jan 4, 2017 7:15 PM - vipervicki: not newbies or mediocre players like me
    Jan 4, 2017 7:15 PM - Neoony: I dont exactly enjoy overorganized pugs with too many vets
    Jan 4, 2017 7:15 PM - Neoony: its just rushing or something like that xD
    Jan 4, 2017 7:15 PM - vipervicki: i think we shud have the other kind too we used to have both kinds
    Jan 4, 2017 7:15 PM - Neoony: too much play to win xD
    Jan 4, 2017 7:15 PM - vipervicki: when viper and epic were around
    Jan 4, 2017 7:15 PM - vipervicki: servers that is
    Jan 4, 2017 7:16 PM - vipervicki: exactly
    Jan 4, 2017 7:16 PM - vipervicki: i dont need that pressure lol
    Jan 4, 2017 7:16 PM - Neoony: yeah well, we had more people who had bigger clue what to do and such xD
    Jan 4, 2017 7:16 PM - vipervicki: yeah
    Jan 4, 2017 7:26 PM - Neoony: hmm, I wonder how the bots are doing
    Jan 4, 2017 7:26 PM - Neoony: I noticed its still in the old version
    Jan 4, 2017 7:27 PM - Neoony: So I guess devs dont intend to make them be able to spawn again in new versions
    Jan 4, 2017 7:27 PM - Neoony: :(
    Jan 4, 2017 7:29 PM - Neoony: Dont even have the old version to try it :(
    Jan 4, 2017 7:40 PM - vipervicki: misfire needs to do that hes the one coding the bots
    Jan 4, 2017 7:40 PM - vipervicki: and running the bot server
    Jan 4, 2017 7:51 PM - Neoony: wait but the default bots got broken with an update
    Jan 4, 2017 7:52 PM - Neoony: thats why he is running old version
    Jan 4, 2017 7:52 PM - Neoony: I tryed everything to make them spawn in newer ones
    Jan 4, 2017 7:52 PM - Neoony: back then you could just set them to mimic and they would spawn
    Jan 4, 2017 7:53 PM - Neoony: So I believe he is wasting his time if devs wont help him with that
    Jan 4, 2017 7:54 PM - Neoony: which is what Iam waiting for so that I could try the custom bots I wanted to try
    Jan 4, 2017 7:58 PM - Neoony: as misfire is messing with a different kind of custom bots than I wanted
    Jan 4, 2017 7:59 PM - Neoony: I just wouldnt bother doing it in older version, if they dont intend to fix the bots
    Jan 4, 2017 8:00 PM - Neoony: at least I never seen devs mention anything about bots
    Jan 4, 2017 8:01 PM - Neoony: So kudos to him for trying xD
    Jan 4, 2017 8:31 PM - vipervicki: :)
    Jan 5, 2017 2:23 AM - Lazybum: Hmm, pugs.
    Jan 5, 2017 2:24 AM - Neoony: yum yum
    Jan 5, 2017 2:24 AM - Lazybum: Yeah I did have one in the pipe line, but I suddenely have to work weekends so I dunno when I can squeeze a pug in
    Jan 5, 2017 2:25 AM - Lazybum: I do agree that epopel joining whatever team is fun, at least for me, but with the way things are currently I feel like the matches get terribly unbalanced
    Jan 5, 2017 2:25 AM - Lazybum: so it's less fun to actually play :(
    Jan 5, 2017 2:26 AM - Neoony: just a little bit worse than ever before
    Jan 5, 2017 2:29 AM - Neoony: sometimes idk if its because of rather no brains or the game balance xD
    Jan 5, 2017 2:31 AM - Lazybum: at least in pubs I notice newer players stacking on to one side, with the current pugs being open it might be a similar effect
    Jan 5, 2017 2:31 AM - Lazybum: can't say for certain though
    Jan 5, 2017 2:32 AM - Lazybum: One thing I do know with picking teams is that captains usually go for capable squad leads, I think that has a tremndous impact on balance
    Jan 5, 2017 2:32 AM - Neoony: How was the pug on 17th december?
    Jan 5, 2017 2:32 AM - Lazybum: slow and techinical difficulties
    Jan 5, 2017 2:32 AM - Lazybum: but it had 2 really solid matches
    Jan 5, 2017 2:32 AM - Neoony: and how many people?
    Jan 5, 2017 2:33 AM - Neoony: approx?
    Jan 5, 2017 2:33 AM - Lazybum: 46ish or somethign?
    Jan 5, 2017 2:33 AM - Lazybum: maybe up to 52
    Jan 5, 2017 2:33 AM - Lazybum: mr x has recordings somewhere
    Jan 5, 2017 2:33 AM - Neoony: Was my birthday that exact day, so xD
    Jan 5, 2017 2:33 AM - Lazybum: ah
    Jan 5, 2017 2:34 AM - Neoony: what technical difficulties btw?
    Jan 5, 2017 2:34 AM - Lazybum: well it was a birthday present, fun pug matches D:
    Jan 5, 2017 2:34 AM - Lazybum: pug plugin had some hiccups
    Jan 5, 2017 2:34 AM - Neoony: im somewhat tired of some of the pug server managment xD
    Jan 5, 2017 2:34 AM - Neoony: oh that
    Jan 5, 2017 2:34 AM - Neoony: allright
    Jan 5, 2017 2:35 AM - Neoony: Shit needs to be set and tested xD
    Jan 5, 2017 2:35 AM - Lazybum: last page of the plugin thread has what happened, it's really a case this couldn't have been found out until we playted a live game
    Jan 5, 2017 2:35 AM - Neoony: yep true
    Jan 5, 2017 2:35 AM - Lazybum: because testing can't account for 10 times the players sadly
    Jan 5, 2017 2:39 AM - Neoony: so what happened on the "last page"?
    Jan 5, 2017 2:39 AM - Neoony: we didnt actually had a smooth pug with the plugin yet right?
    Jan 5, 2017 3:26 AM - Lazybum: It was a case of teams never switching on map change, and the picking process takes too long to do it every round
    Jan 5, 2017 3:27 AM - Señor_Awesome: For one thing, no need to pick every round. Teams not switching was a problem, though. Wish it hadn't collapsed for the third game, despite several players having already left
    Jan 5, 2017 3:27 AM - Lazybum: It did remember who was on what team on map change, it just didnt sqap them
    Jan 5, 2017 3:27 AM - Señor_Awesome: that was my only complaint
    Jan 5, 2017 3:27 AM - Lazybum: Yeah I collasped it on purpose when it changed to a map i didn't set it to
    Jan 5, 2017 3:28 AM - Lazybum: and it didn't even change teams either
    Jan 5, 2017 3:28 AM - Lazybum: I didn't think anyone wanted to play on the same side for the third time
    Jan 5, 2017 3:28 AM - Lazybum: if it did that at least I would have been fine with a canyon round
    Jan 5, 2017 3:28 AM - Señor_Awesome: it just meant two good rounds were topped off with a godawful stack
    Jan 5, 2017 3:28 AM - Lazybum: yeaa, thought I might have been able to kinda make it less awful
    Jan 5, 2017 3:29 AM - Lazybum: if I forced auto assign, but I kinda had a meh feeling
    Jan 5, 2017 3:29 AM - Lazybum: after hearing so many complaints
    Jan 5, 2017 3:29 AM - Lazybum: :(
    Jan 5, 2017 3:29 AM - Señor_Awesome: Don't worry, due to the randomization, auto assign results in stack about as often as it doesn't
    Jan 5, 2017 3:49 AM - Ranger: Can you detonate mines with your head?
    Jan 5, 2017 3:49 AM - Polyesta: Yes.
    Jan 5, 2017 3:50 AM - Ranger: Does your head walk?
    Jan 5, 2017 3:55 AM - Señor_Awesome: Does yours not?
    Jan 5, 2017 3:58 AM - Lazybum: I take mine off and kick it, safely detonate those mines
    Jan 5, 2017 3:59 AM - Neoony: lol
    Jan 5, 2017 4:00 AM - Neoony: 9 mine
     
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    Jan 5, 2017 4:03 AM - Neoony: I gotta try xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:14 AM - Neoony: oh, well it seems to load xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:14 AM - Neoony: u guys got some spare GPU power while playing empires? xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 AM - Neoony: lets make a reshade preset :P
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 AM - Neoony: its super easy with this new reshade gui
    Jan 5, 2017 4:24 AM - Neoony: seems I cant use few effects :/
    Jan 5, 2017 4:29 AM - Neoony: Oh, they just hide from me, lol
    Jan 5, 2017 4:30 AM - Polyesta: I got a 980.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:30 AM - Polyesta: 8 core
    Jan 5, 2017 4:33 AM - Polyesta: whoops I misread the question cause I glanced. LMFAO
    Jan 5, 2017 4:33 AM - Polyesta: whoops I misread the question cause I glanced. LMFAO
    Jan 5, 2017 4:43 AM - Neoony: hmm, I mean if empires looks so bad, we could make it nicer with this xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:47 AM - duke: At some point I made wreck meshes for the buildings and I seem to recall them being in game - does anyone know why they were removed?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:54 AM - Ranger: =o
    Jan 5, 2017 6:02 AM - duke: Are any devs on?
    Jan 5, 2017 6:09 AM - complete_: duke i was playing in late 2007 early 2008 and i do not remember brenodi building wreck meshes for be being available models, only on nf
    Jan 5, 2017 6:09 AM - duke: ok, maybe they never made it in
    Jan 5, 2017 6:10 AM - complete_: i know there were a few vehicle ones though. it'd be weird if there was some that existed and they were somehow removed but the nf ones stayed
    Jan 5, 2017 6:11 AM - duke: this is from 2006 so thats odd
    Jan 5, 2017 6:12 AM - duke: omg sandbag models from 2003
    Jan 5, 2017 6:23 AM - Neoony: hmm, I just made my empires look recent xD
    Jan 5, 2017 6:25 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: best you can hope for at this hour is a community contributor, hi what's up
    Jan 5, 2017 6:25 AM - complete_: i am terrified to see what 2003 sandbag models look like
    Jan 5, 2017 6:25 AM - Neoony: damn bmp screenshots
    Jan 5, 2017 6:26 AM - complete_: wait im supposed to see a screenshot?
    Jan 5, 2017 6:26 AM - Neoony: in a bit
    Jan 5, 2017 6:26 AM - duke: they're blobby..
    Jan 5, 2017 6:28 AM - duke: im thinking of redoing the buildings a decade later, so let me ask you this
    Jan 5, 2017 6:28 AM - Neoony: daamn, the reshade is messing things up now D: I knew I shouldnt alt tab
    Jan 5, 2017 6:29 AM - duke: a) Should there be a second version of the wall that is crouch height, b) should the BE and NF barracks be the same height
    Jan 5, 2017 6:30 AM - duke: guys i've got a 10 hour flight, i've got to draw something
    Jan 5, 2017 6:31 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: im not sure what to sat about a, but in regards to b the current consensus is that they should be of similar height
    Jan 5, 2017 6:31 AM - duke: ok
    Jan 5, 2017 6:33 AM - complete_: yes to a! its actually smaller when built now because they changed the start height to make it lower
    Jan 5, 2017 6:33 AM - Neoony: https://postimg.org/gallery/ihbo78uw
    Jan 5, 2017 6:33 AM - Neoony: only few random pics
    Jan 5, 2017 6:34 AM - Neoony: and i completely overloaded it with shaders xD
    Jan 5, 2017 6:34 AM - duke: originally, those smaller walls in Crossroads were meant to be a second wall type
    Jan 5, 2017 6:35 AM - Neoony: but you can have all the lens flares and such...Would be better to make a video xD
    Jan 5, 2017 6:36 AM - complete_: you mean those ramps? or am i forgetting about something else
    Jan 5, 2017 6:36 AM - complete_: oh god the shaders!
    Jan 5, 2017 6:37 AM - Neoony: could totally improve some of the empires graphics xD
    Jan 5, 2017 6:38 AM - Neoony: plenty of space for the gpu in empires
    Jan 5, 2017 6:39 AM - flasche: it looks like 2 days on speed or smthg lol
    Jan 5, 2017 6:39 AM - flasche: but more fx would be neat
    Jan 5, 2017 6:40 AM - Neoony: I know
    Jan 5, 2017 6:40 AM - Neoony: Iam just messing around with it xD
    Jan 5, 2017 6:40 AM - Neoony: but there is loads to do
    Jan 5, 2017 6:40 AM - flasche: the grass looks nice tho
    Jan 5, 2017 6:40 AM - Neoony: and newest reshade has such awesome gui
    Jan 5, 2017 6:40 AM - Neoony: its totally easy
    Jan 5, 2017 6:41 AM - Neoony: wait ima try upload one of the short vids when i was messing with the tiltshift
    Jan 5, 2017 6:41 AM - flasche: also duke a. would be awesome
    Jan 5, 2017 6:42 AM - flasche: b. is a necessity
    Jan 5, 2017 6:42 AM - Neoony:
    Jan 5, 2017 6:43 AM - Neoony: need to set up a bit better recorder though
    Jan 5, 2017 6:43 AM - complete_: anyways i gotta head to bed or else im gonna be as tired as i was today. night!
    Jan 5, 2017 6:43 AM - Neoony: why didnt i thought of this sooner
    Jan 5, 2017 6:43 AM - Neoony: I keep doing that to different games
    Jan 5, 2017 6:43 AM - Neoony: never thought of empires
    Jan 5, 2017 6:44 AM - flasche: yeah tilt shift is a nice effect
    Jan 5, 2017 6:44 AM - Neoony: vid is 1920x1072 wait for youtube to process
    Jan 5, 2017 6:44 AM - flasche: but not for gameplay i guess
    Jan 5, 2017 6:44 AM - Neoony: should get atleast 720p
    Jan 5, 2017 6:44 AM - Neoony: well a little fps goes down
    Jan 5, 2017 6:45 AM - Neoony: but I totally didnt optimize, quite the opposite
    Jan 5, 2017 6:45 AM - Neoony: you can have many effects which dont strain that much
    Jan 5, 2017 6:46 AM - flasche: idk what you mean with 720p ytube tells me its 1080p
    Jan 5, 2017 6:46 AM - Neoony: oh yea?
    Jan 5, 2017 6:46 AM - Neoony: I only had 320p
    Jan 5, 2017 6:47 AM - flasche: shrug
    Jan 5, 2017 6:47 AM - Neoony: whoops, accidentally uploaded other 5 vids
    Jan 5, 2017 6:50 AM - Neoony: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW1Ar_9unpnTLf8xO2lcJl_fAuQGSmbt9
    Jan 5, 2017 6:50 AM - Neoony: but most of them are even from earlyer
    Jan 5, 2017 6:50 AM - Neoony: not much interesting :P
    Jan 5, 2017 6:52 AM - flasche: the 3rd one (the one which looks like its on a CRT) is awesome
    Jan 5, 2017 6:53 AM - Neoony: yeah
    Jan 5, 2017 6:53 AM - Neoony: Almost like looking from a helmet
    Jan 5, 2017 6:53 AM - Neoony: and the hud then looks less 2d xD
    Jan 5, 2017 6:54 AM - flasche: almost like looking through a surveilance system, except for that those dont use CRTs anymore either
    Jan 5, 2017 6:54 AM - flasche: ^^
    Jan 5, 2017 6:55 AM - Neoony: xD
    Jan 5, 2017 7:12 AM - Neoony: damn now I feel like videos xD
    Jan 5, 2017 7:12 AM - Neoony: next 3 minutes vid coming up, presenting many effects
    Jan 5, 2017 7:15 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: Speaking of videos, i have audio recording hardware now, gonna need help recording more tutorials when i come home from uni
    Jan 5, 2017 7:15 AM - Neoony: well now you can do it with shaders xD
    Jan 5, 2017 7:15 AM - Neoony: this can look so awesome
    Jan 5, 2017 7:22 AM - Neoony: hmm used another recorder, seems like youtube took some toll off this vid
    Jan 5, 2017 7:22 AM - Neoony: colors are quite poor
    Jan 5, 2017 7:22 AM - Neoony:
    Jan 5, 2017 7:23 AM - Neoony: gotta figure out the recording better
    Jan 5, 2017 7:23 AM - Neoony: been a long time
    Jan 5, 2017 7:26 AM - flasche: yep, that looks pretty much like after 3days of partying ^^
    Jan 5, 2017 7:26 AM - Neoony: probably the motion blur xD
    Jan 5, 2017 7:27 AM - Neoony: gotta make some cool preset :P
    Jan 5, 2017 7:28 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: googlw youtube encoding guidelines? :o
    Jan 5, 2017 7:29 AM - Neoony: yeah thats np, just dont wanna bother now :P
    Jan 5, 2017 7:31 AM - Neoony: Iam actually trying the ReLive which is built into the AMD Crimson...My GPU still seems to handle recording so much better...definitely cant strain CPU when recording especially in empires
    Jan 5, 2017 7:31 AM - Neoony: can really only set bitrate there
    Jan 5, 2017 7:32 AM - Neoony: normally I would use sony vegas
    Jan 5, 2017 7:32 AM - Neoony: to render
    Jan 5, 2017 10:33 AM - Neoony: Made a preset on the new slaughtered, the map looks cool with the shaders xD
    Jan 5, 2017 10:33 AM - Neoony: http://steamcommunity.com/id/neoonyx/screenshots/
    Jan 5, 2017 10:33 AM - Neoony: yeah, Iam gonna love that tiltshift effect xD
    Jan 5, 2017 11:05 AM - Neoony:
    Jan 5, 2017 11:05 AM - Neoony: heh
    Jan 5, 2017 11:14 AM - Neoony: lets implement reshade into empires, make screenshots and put it on steam :D
    Jan 5, 2017 11:14 AM - Neoony: people wont be as scared of it :D
    Jan 5, 2017 2:23 PM - flasche: a bit less blur
    Jan 5, 2017 2:27 PM - Neoony: wait so the bot server isnt running some old version of empires?
    Jan 5, 2017 2:27 PM - Neoony: wtf, I swear I was getting an error joining just few days ago
    Jan 5, 2017 2:27 PM - Neoony: now iam in
    Jan 5, 2017 2:30 PM - Neoony: wow
    Jan 5, 2017 2:30 PM - Neoony: I just got first time ever in empires killed by a bot
    Jan 5, 2017 2:30 PM - Neoony: thats weird xD
    Jan 5, 2017 2:39 PM - Neoony: funny, I still thought they will be even more clueless than that xD
    Jan 5, 2017 2:40 PM - Neoony: could be used for some infantry map....like 3vs20 xD
    Jan 5, 2017 2:40 PM - Neoony: or just defense, while they keep attacking you
    Jan 5, 2017 2:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: lazybuuum we need to talk
    Jan 5, 2017 2:53 PM - Neoony: too lazy D:
    Jan 5, 2017 3:11 PM - Neoony: well, I keep getting stuck on downloading parachute_carbon.vvd on bots server, when it restarts xD
    Jan 5, 2017 3:18 PM - vipervicki: nah the bots are good aim
    Jan 5, 2017 3:18 PM - vipervicki: he had to lower their level they were too good lol
    Jan 5, 2017 3:19 PM - Neoony: yeah
    Jan 5, 2017 3:20 PM - Neoony: so he did figure out how to make them spawn in current version?
    Jan 5, 2017 3:20 PM - Neoony: strange cause just few days ago I was just getting errors connecting to the server
    Jan 5, 2017 3:20 PM - vipervicki: for this last update.dunno but since one before..yes
    Jan 5, 2017 3:20 PM - Neoony: so I thought its still running old
    Jan 5, 2017 3:20 PM - vipervicki: havent tlaked to him since this sound update
    Jan 5, 2017 3:20 PM - Neoony: then I gotta know how D:
    Jan 5, 2017 3:21 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 5, 2017 3:21 PM - Neoony: lol, I gotta finally get some contact on him
    Jan 5, 2017 3:21 PM - vipervicki: hes working so hard casue everytime they mess with empires it sets him back
    Jan 5, 2017 3:21 PM - vipervicki: good :)
    Jan 5, 2017 3:21 PM - Neoony: yeah, can imagine that
    Jan 5, 2017 3:25 PM - Neoony: but the bots are better than I expected
    Jan 5, 2017 3:26 PM - Neoony: Wont forget my first time getting killed by a bot in empires....and they actually destroyed rax right after that xD
    Jan 5, 2017 3:27 PM - Neoony: But I could imagine there could be something like...more or less, an idle map...where you would have to for example defend a place, lets say 3v20 and they would just keep coming in
    Jan 5, 2017 3:27 PM - Neoony: might actually be fun...especially when not many playing...or even just for practice
    Jan 5, 2017 3:29 PM - Avatarix: well, if we would be able to set up an autobalance script for nuclear
    Jan 5, 2017 3:29 PM - Avatarix: so that BE will have like 3 players less
    Jan 5, 2017 3:32 PM - Neoony: Just copy and cut the pug plugin :rolleyes:
    Jan 5, 2017 3:35 PM - Polyesta: Instead they should just make a game mode where bots attack a base, and you can defend it. I joined several times with bot's and its completely pointless, and extremely unfun. I could literally stand and wave infront of one and they still can't even shoot me cause the server lags so bad. Anyways, the reshade plugin indeed makes Empires a little more visually appealing.
    Jan 5, 2017 3:36 PM - Neoony: hmm or just https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=978806
    Jan 5, 2017 3:37 PM - Neoony: I mean thats what I meant....few players defending a place...and a horde of bots attacking
    Jan 5, 2017 3:37 PM - Neoony: Comeon, you gotta little bit get on their level to actually have fun with them xD
    Jan 5, 2017 3:38 PM - Neoony: Its already a miracle that they even exist xD
    Jan 5, 2017 3:39 PM - Polyesta: I could definitely see some gamemode like that which would allow players to play for fun while majority of the small communitys offline, that would make alot of fun out of the boring sh** at the moment.
    Jan 5, 2017 3:39 PM - Neoony: yeah
    Jan 5, 2017 3:40 PM - Neoony: Guess one day soon, they might actually replace us
    Jan 5, 2017 3:40 PM - Neoony: And empires will never ever die
    Jan 5, 2017 3:40 PM - Neoony: >:)
    Jan 5, 2017 3:41 PM - Polyesta: lmfao.. (all the servers are closing down, the bot's have a gofund me) I'd usually be around the bots level when I'm shitfaced. But, since the new year's. Pol pol, quit drinking.. to many forums with drunken rants and sterf. Pissing off community's xD
    Jan 5, 2017 3:42 PM - Neoony: xD
    Jan 5, 2017 3:44 PM - Polyesta: My dreams this morning were crushed by someone saying my backpack flamethrower tank looked like a super soaker. (drowns himself in booze)
    Jan 5, 2017 3:51 PM - flasche: i like how the mine damage thread turned from its actual topic over toxic community (is it really so toxic, i think most of you are actually rather nice) to surrender and map votes
    Jan 5, 2017 3:51 PM - flasche: empires forums at its best
    Jan 5, 2017 3:51 PM - flasche: its no good thread without excessive derailment
    Jan 5, 2017 3:52 PM - Paradox: When the thread derails you know its gun be good
    Jan 5, 2017 3:53 PM - flasche: i wonder if there even is a single thread which stuck to the topic ^^
    Jan 5, 2017 3:57 PM - Neoony: Derail the derail
    Jan 5, 2017 3:57 PM - Neoony: fire with fire
    Jan 5, 2017 3:57 PM - Neoony: lul
    Jan 5, 2017 3:59 PM - flasche: would a derailed derailed thread be on track again?
    Jan 5, 2017 3:59 PM - Neoony: many just pretend to be toxic...and many just pretend to be toxic to fit in
    Jan 5, 2017 3:59 PM - Neoony: in empires forums logic, sure
    Jan 5, 2017 4:02 PM - flasche: i love this forums
    Jan 5, 2017 4:02 PM - flasche: best thing on the intertubes
    Jan 5, 2017 4:02 PM - Neoony: :D
    Jan 5, 2017 4:03 PM - Polyesta: The forums are brutal, its literally savage out here.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:03 PM - Polyesta: Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, cuz they raping evrybody out hure
    Jan 5, 2017 4:03 PM - flasche: i must be a savage then, i feel at home ^^
    Jan 5, 2017 4:04 PM - flasche: the only thing that bugs me is that empty still has more posts than me even tho he didnt post in years
    Jan 5, 2017 4:04 PM - flasche: lol
    Jan 5, 2017 4:05 PM - Neoony: lol XD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:05 PM - Polyesta: I seen some dude literally get his legs chopped off ina thread and he was dragged off, he never came back.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:06 PM - Neoony: Actually, how many posts do I have? D:
    Jan 5, 2017 4:06 PM - Neoony: never checked
    Jan 5, 2017 4:07 PM - Neoony: 1105 xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:07 PM - flasche: git gud ^^
    Jan 5, 2017 4:07 PM - Neoony: guess thats still sane
    Jan 5, 2017 4:07 PM - Neoony: xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:07 PM - Polyesta: I still wonder how some dudes have over 9,000.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:08 PM - Neoony: But I was just a quiet reader first few years
    Jan 5, 2017 4:08 PM - flasche: 9years
    Jan 5, 2017 4:09 PM - Polyesta: The only guy that likes the funny shit, or stuff in general like me is neoony no one ever likes in this forum.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:09 PM - flasche: the worst thing about that many posts is that i cant see my first post
    Jan 5, 2017 4:10 PM - flasche: it was something about how OP tanks are
    Jan 5, 2017 4:10 PM - Polyesta: neoony's a fucking whore, I see his likes everywhere.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:10 PM - flasche: i think
    Jan 5, 2017 4:10 PM - Neoony: :)
    Jan 5, 2017 4:10 PM - Neoony: anyways, I think there might be some issue with some very old posts
    Jan 5, 2017 4:11 PM - Neoony: some threads non existent, search searching weird, often nothing comes up to me from long past
    Jan 5, 2017 4:11 PM - Polyesta: I think the OP tank threads still up, it has quite thee amount of pages if thats the one you're speaking of.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:11 PM - Neoony: I mean, there was some issue where they had to rebuild the index or something
    Jan 5, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: i doubt it, its from 9 years ago
    Jan 5, 2017 4:11 PM - flasche: even was on another forum software
    Jan 5, 2017 4:12 PM - Polyesta: well if it was on a different forum software, that's why you can't find it. I'm not a web dev, but this is BB I think
    Jan 5, 2017 4:12 PM - Neoony: no
    Jan 5, 2017 4:12 PM - Neoony: xenforo
    Jan 5, 2017 4:12 PM - flasche: xenoforo
    Jan 5, 2017 4:13 PM - complete_: "toxicity" doesnt imply that people are calling each other literally psychotic all the time. it just means that theres negative energy that sometimes gets taken out on new players
    Jan 5, 2017 4:13 PM - Polyesta: Thats why its so shitty! (jking)
    Jan 5, 2017 4:13 PM - Neoony: but there was issues when indexes were falling apart
    Jan 5, 2017 4:13 PM - Neoony: think that was some reaching capacity of hosting issues
    Jan 5, 2017 4:13 PM - flasche: yes i know that it sometimes is bad on the server complete
    Jan 5, 2017 4:14 PM - flasche: but on the forums?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:14 PM - Polyesta: My first game I ever played veterans where blowing blood vessels screaming at new players, I was screamed at to change a class, so I did, but reverted back to make them even more pissed.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:14 PM - Neoony: I mean, its quite shitty....
    Jan 5, 2017 4:14 PM - Neoony: being specific with searching? you can forget...issues? we had plenty
    Jan 5, 2017 4:15 PM - Neoony: And I was gonna go mad writing and formatting this reshade topic, because it just does whatever it wants with colors and such, if you ever dare to touch it
    Jan 5, 2017 4:15 PM - Paradox: how much posts do you have flasche
    Jan 5, 2017 4:15 PM - Paradox: ow shit 12k
    Jan 5, 2017 4:15 PM - flasche: 12.7k
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 PM - Polyesta: oh my
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 PM - Paradox: just checked member section thats crazy
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 PM - Neoony: oh god
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 PM - Neoony: wait
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 PM - Neoony: how much does empty have then
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 PM - complete_: not all the time but theres been some moments. its only a problem when it ends with someone leaving the community (has happened more than a couple times)
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 PM - flasche: about 15k
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 PM - flasche: click the member button in the top right corner
    Jan 5, 2017 4:16 PM - Paradox: Candles rip
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - Polyesta: Why isn't there forum ranks for posts or likes, like achievements?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - Paradox: he should come back
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - Polyesta: That'd be cool... alot of communitys have that.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - Paradox: there are
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - Neoony: well, one day we all gotta leave or not? D:
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - flasche: there is polyester
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - complete_: i had more posts than paradox for a hot second and then he came back and fucked me over
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - flasche: polyesta* sry
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - Polyesta: yester dude? seriously?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - flasche: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?members/
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - Polyesta: fuck this im leaving this forum
    Jan 5, 2017 4:17 PM - Paradox: flasche they changed it seemingly
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Neoony: someone could create trophies
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - flasche: dont let the door hit you :P
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Paradox: it used to be with titles, now its only member
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - flasche: jk
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Neoony: should take 10 minutes
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Paradox: and the people that got a special title
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Neoony: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?help/trophies
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Polyesta: :(
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Paradox: what did it use to be the titles I forgot
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Paradox: young member member senior member
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - flasche: that was long ago
    Jan 5, 2017 4:18 PM - Paradox: the last one was when u hit 1000 I Think
    Jan 5, 2017 4:19 PM - Polyesta: Yah that's what I mean't like trophys. They would be implacably easy to create. You can download packs in 24 or 64x
    Jan 5, 2017 4:19 PM - complete_: and the secret title
    Jan 5, 2017 4:19 PM - complete_: after 10k
    Jan 5, 2017 4:19 PM - Polyesta: Why did they remove them...?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:19 PM - Paradox: transition from old forums to new forums
    Jan 5, 2017 4:19 PM - Paradox: I think
    Jan 5, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: it was on the old forums
    Jan 5, 2017 4:19 PM - flasche: i still have no custom title
    Jan 5, 2017 4:20 PM - flasche: after all this years
    Jan 5, 2017 4:20 PM - Paradox: "old man"
    Jan 5, 2017 4:20 PM - flasche: QQ
    Jan 5, 2017 4:20 PM - Polyesta: Well it gives incentive to actually participate in the forums. I bet only 10% of people who actually register even stay.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:20 PM - Paradox: "mid life crisis"
    Jan 5, 2017 4:20 PM - Neoony: it was vbulletin back then
    Jan 5, 2017 4:20 PM - Paradox: how did u get yours lamer
    Jan 5, 2017 4:21 PM - complete_: i think trickster just gave it to me
    Jan 5, 2017 4:21 PM - complete_: randomly
    Jan 5, 2017 4:21 PM - Neoony: well, I mean...it doesnt actually look that any of the devs actually want people to participate in the forums xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:21 PM - Neoony: sometimes feels opposite xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:21 PM - flasche: i know how you got yours paradox
    Jan 5, 2017 4:21 PM - Neoony: or you are just wasting time here
    Jan 5, 2017 4:21 PM - flasche: trickster is still salty about it haha
    Jan 5, 2017 4:22 PM - Neoony: chopper?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:22 PM - flasche: mm
    Jan 5, 2017 4:22 PM - complete_: he "loses people's hard wo"
    Jan 5, 2017 4:22 PM - Neoony: XD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:22 PM - Neoony: but was that because of that heli in dayz?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:22 PM - Neoony: or that was just another time?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:22 PM - flasche: yeh
    Jan 5, 2017 4:23 PM - vipervicki: shoutbox scroll is fooked
    Jan 5, 2017 4:23 PM - Neoony: think I was actually on voice with them back then
    Jan 5, 2017 4:23 PM - Neoony: so lol
    Jan 5, 2017 4:23 PM - vipervicki: im trying to read up but keeps scrolling back down
    Jan 5, 2017 4:23 PM - Neoony: tricky was swallowing it quite long xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:23 PM - Neoony: yeah, shoutbox scroll is super annoying
    Jan 5, 2017 4:23 PM - Polyesta: You don't wanna read up. It gets heavy.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:24 PM - Polyesta: We had some try and they died already,.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:24 PM - Neoony: might help if you just go here vicki
    Jan 5, 2017 4:24 PM - Neoony: https://forums.empiresmod.com/index.php?chat/
    Jan 5, 2017 4:24 PM - vipervicki: lol couldnt be heavier than what ive experience in the last 6 years
    Jan 5, 2017 4:24 PM - flasche: (or just click the link above the shoutbox)
    Jan 5, 2017 4:25 PM - vipervicki: ohh ok ty
    Jan 5, 2017 4:25 PM - Neoony: think the less players we have playing empires, the more servers we got
    Jan 5, 2017 4:25 PM - vipervicki: when did i join this disfunctional commmuntiy ..gonna look
    Jan 5, 2017 4:25 PM - vipervicki: 2009
    Jan 5, 2017 4:25 PM - flasche: 2009
    Jan 5, 2017 4:26 PM - Neoony: thats like me
    Jan 5, 2017 4:26 PM - vipervicki: damn 8 years I need to seek therapy
    Jan 5, 2017 4:26 PM - Polyesta: http://www.omfgdogs.com/
    Jan 5, 2017 4:26 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 5, 2017 4:26 PM - Neoony: I just played a year or so before without caring about forums
    Jan 5, 2017 4:26 PM - flasche: http://www.hamsterdance.org/hamsterdance/
    Jan 5, 2017 4:26 PM - vipervicki: i had no choice people wud link me when I had VIPER
    Jan 5, 2017 4:27 PM - vipervicki: ooh vicki look
    Jan 5, 2017 4:27 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 5, 2017 4:27 PM - Neoony: xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:27 PM - Neoony: couldnt avoid it xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:27 PM - Polyesta: This is cancer
    Jan 5, 2017 4:27 PM - flasche: admit you like it
    Jan 5, 2017 4:27 PM - Polyesta: ...sigh... I do
    Jan 5, 2017 4:27 PM - Polyesta: ^.^
    Jan 5, 2017 4:28 PM - Paradox: To be honest, trickster was wrong that it was my fault
    Jan 5, 2017 4:29 PM - Paradox: I only pointed out there was a crash site, it was ipazza that fucked us over
    Jan 5, 2017 4:29 PM - complete_: ^ its getting real
    Jan 5, 2017 4:29 PM - Paradox: I get it though, trickster and fooshi spent a TON of time trying to fix it lol
    Jan 5, 2017 4:29 PM - Paradox: Also we fucking lost 6v2 that fight which is sad
    Jan 5, 2017 4:36 PM - Polyesta: http://imgur.com/a/8Ui5b
    Jan 5, 2017 4:36 PM - Polyesta: starting the gun of the flame thrower
    Jan 5, 2017 4:36 PM - Polyesta: :)
    Jan 5, 2017 4:39 PM - Neoony: well now idk...if I connect this and this
    Jan 5, 2017 4:39 PM - Neoony: http://i.imgur.com/mOkXBe6.png
    Jan 5, 2017 4:39 PM - Neoony: http://i.imgur.com/tvSwftM.png
    Jan 5, 2017 4:39 PM - Neoony: I think I will get this
    Jan 5, 2017 4:39 PM - Neoony: http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/05/54ca62c3d99f0_-_waterguns-5.jpg
    Jan 5, 2017 4:40 PM - Neoony: no? D:
    Jan 5, 2017 4:43 PM - Neoony: I wonder
    Jan 5, 2017 4:43 PM - Neoony: Will the thread get derailed by talking about its true topic?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:45 PM - flasche: didnt we agree on that before?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:45 PM - flasche: derailing a derailed thread brings it back on track.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:46 PM - Neoony: right xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:47 PM - Neoony: wow
    Jan 5, 2017 4:48 PM - Neoony: I only got 3 friends who played empires last 2 weeks
    Jan 5, 2017 4:48 PM - Neoony: that must be bad lol
    Jan 5, 2017 4:48 PM - Neoony: 80% of my friendlist from empires xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:50 PM - Neoony: that must be something odd
    Jan 5, 2017 4:50 PM - Neoony: I mean even security didnt play last 2 weeks<
    Jan 5, 2017 4:50 PM - Neoony: ?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:50 PM - Neoony: nah something wrong xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:51 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/85f0c30abc247851a168306713d1a45f.png
    Jan 5, 2017 4:51 PM - Neoony: that makes no sense
    Jan 5, 2017 4:53 PM - flasche: its all DTs new sounds fault!
    Jan 5, 2017 4:53 PM - flasche: ^^
    Jan 5, 2017 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: I was going to say, "why am I not in there", but then I realised I actually haven't played Empires in over two weeks.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:54 PM - flasche: :o
    Jan 5, 2017 4:54 PM - flasche: i also have thexa and smithy on that list neoony
    Jan 5, 2017 4:54 PM - Neoony: Friends who have played Empires in the last 2 weeks _
    Jan 5, 2017 4:54 PM - Neoony: 2 of them got 0 played last 2 weeks
    Jan 5, 2017 4:54 PM - complete_: lmao
    Jan 5, 2017 4:55 PM - Neoony: And I dont own the game, but Iam not sure if that wasnt a thing since long time
    Jan 5, 2017 4:55 PM - flasche: yeah tama has 0h even tho he played empires in the last 2 weeks for me aswell
    Jan 5, 2017 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: It is definitely bugged though.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:56 PM - flasche: maybe below 1h doesnt count?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:56 PM - flasche: just started once to test and called it a day
    Jan 5, 2017 4:56 PM - Neoony: it should note he executed it
    Jan 5, 2017 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: here is mine: [​IMG]
    Jan 5, 2017 4:56 PM - Neoony: last played
    Jan 5, 2017 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: shouldn't be so empty
    Jan 5, 2017 4:57 PM - flasche: its probably just rounded down
    Jan 5, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: steam is just derping, ignore it.
    Jan 5, 2017 4:57 PM - Neoony: isnt it suspicious that its only devs showing there? xD
    Jan 5, 2017 4:57 PM - flasche: tho its true
    Jan 5, 2017 4:57 PM - flasche: i should be on the list aswell, i played yesterday
    Jan 5, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: somethings fishy
    Jan 5, 2017 4:58 PM - flasche: creeper is no dev is he?
    Jan 5, 2017 4:58 PM - Neoony: he somewhat is
    Jan 5, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: he is
    Jan 5, 2017 4:58 PM - Neoony: mostly yeah
    Jan 5, 2017 4:59 PM - flasche: oh
    Jan 5, 2017 4:59 PM - Neoony: its a conspiracy
    Jan 5, 2017 4:59 PM - flasche: were after something big here
    Jan 5, 2017 5:00 PM - flasche: devs try to make the game appear barren so they dont have to work on it lol
    Jan 5, 2017 5:01 PM - Neoony: ahahah
    Jan 5, 2017 5:02 PM - flasche: there actually are hundreds of servers with thousands of players out there we just dont get to see them.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:04 PM - Neoony: I wonder why is there still the old logo of empires, when you looking friends played in last 2 weeks
    Jan 5, 2017 5:05 PM - Smithy: Something is fucky with steam community, check global achievements too
    Jan 5, 2017 5:06 PM - Xyaminou: your shaders post is... shady...
    Jan 5, 2017 5:06 PM - Xyaminou: let's try it.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:06 PM - Paradox: thecreeper is an empires dev?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:06 PM - Paradox: no fucking way
    Jan 5, 2017 5:06 PM - Smithy: anyone can be an empires dev
    Jan 5, 2017 5:07 PM - Smithy: I just pretend to know what I'm doing
    Jan 5, 2017 5:07 PM - Smithy: You'll notice that runs common with past/present devs :3
    Jan 5, 2017 5:07 PM - Polyesta: Fuck youy Neoony xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:07 PM - Polyesta: and you're damn squirt gun
    Jan 5, 2017 5:07 PM - Z100000M: your*
    Jan 5, 2017 5:07 PM - flasche: lol
    Jan 5, 2017 5:08 PM - Neoony: whoa x
    Jan 5, 2017 5:08 PM - Neoony: xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: what do I select as a game?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:08 PM - Smithy: He's not wrong though
    Jan 5, 2017 5:08 PM - Xyaminou: just hl2.exe?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:09 PM - Polyesta: (Z10000M dies and gets dragged off)
    Jan 5, 2017 5:09 PM - Smithy: The X15 flamethrower is a water pistol of sorts
    Jan 5, 2017 5:09 PM - Neoony: folder with hl2
    Jan 5, 2017 5:09 PM - Smithy: it's built using pressure washer components
    Jan 5, 2017 5:09 PM - Polyesta: Tru
    Jan 5, 2017 5:09 PM - Xyaminou: well it wants an .exe so I'm assuming hl2.exe in Empires directory
    Jan 5, 2017 5:09 PM - Smithy: Google FPSRussia X15
    Jan 5, 2017 5:09 PM - Neoony: ye
    Jan 5, 2017 5:10 PM - Smithy: demonstrates it in action if you have not seen it
    Jan 5, 2017 5:10 PM - Neoony: just read the goddamn post xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:10 PM - Neoony: I couldnt be any more detailed xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:10 PM - Xyaminou: I am reading the post, you never said what to select in it.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:10 PM - Neoony: But alteast someone is interested xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:11 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/9852b1e05ba62bc3a7166710e4c60a7e.png
    Jan 5, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: "do you wish to get collection from github"
    Jan 5, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: yes or no?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:11 PM - Neoony: in ya face
    Jan 5, 2017 5:11 PM - Neoony: yea
    Jan 5, 2017 5:11 PM - Neoony: :D
    Jan 5, 2017 5:11 PM - Xyaminou: that doesn't say select hl2.exe as far as I'm concerned.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:12 PM - Neoony: ah
    Jan 5, 2017 5:12 PM - Neoony: just
    Jan 5, 2017 5:12 PM - flasche: how many .exe files do you have in that directory?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:12 PM - Neoony: nvm
    Jan 5, 2017 5:12 PM - Neoony: xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:12 PM - Neoony: xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:13 PM - Neoony: But I will add the github thing
    Jan 5, 2017 5:13 PM - Neoony: that I forgot
    Jan 5, 2017 5:13 PM - Xyaminou: well "install" could mean anything, I didn't know "select the game" stands for "install"
    Jan 5, 2017 5:13 PM - Polyesta: @Smithy I know how the X15 fires, however for the zombie mod I'm making the developers are looking for a more unique FT, for the game. I used the x15 for some reference.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:13 PM - Xyaminou: it could be doing a number of things.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:13 PM - Polyesta: I looked at FPSR videos though its sick lmfao
    Jan 5, 2017 5:13 PM - Xyaminou: when I read install I actually copied the .exe I downloaded from the website into Empires folder, because it could have simply installed itself wherever it is.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:14 PM - flasche: the wording is suboptimal true
    Jan 5, 2017 5:14 PM - Polyesta: I'm personally questioning how they are going to implement this into the source engine though O.o
    Jan 5, 2017 5:15 PM - Neoony: you can also read installation instructions from their website if you really need it xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:16 PM - flasche: pfff readin is so 20th century
    Jan 5, 2017 5:16 PM - Neoony: heh
    Jan 5, 2017 5:17 PM - complete_: lol paradox didnt know creeper is a dev
    Jan 5, 2017 5:17 PM - Neoony: wow
    Jan 5, 2017 5:17 PM - Xyaminou: why read something when I can read something else
    Jan 5, 2017 5:17 PM - Neoony: u actually had to pull it from up there xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:19 PM - Xyaminou: is it going to take that long to load every time?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:19 PM - Neoony: Just xyaminou, expect that you might not get as good results on other maps
    Jan 5, 2017 5:19 PM - Neoony: probably
    Jan 5, 2017 5:20 PM - Neoony: how long is long
    Jan 5, 2017 5:20 PM - Neoony: 10-15 sec max
    Jan 5, 2017 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: don't know, I didn't have a watch to time it
    Jan 5, 2017 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: more like 30s
    Jan 5, 2017 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: no seeing any difference on nuclear
    Jan 5, 2017 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: at all
    Jan 5, 2017 5:20 PM - Neoony: potato?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:21 PM - Neoony: did you even did all the steps
    Jan 5, 2017 5:21 PM - Neoony: read the damn topic goddamit
    Jan 5, 2017 5:21 PM - Xyaminou: I though I did
    Jan 5, 2017 5:21 PM - Xyaminou: not potato, 5 year old, and Empires usually loads in under a second
    Jan 5, 2017 5:21 PM - Neoony: from the first moment I knew you didnt
    Jan 5, 2017 5:22 PM - Neoony: if you only installed it then it shouldnt even be working
    Jan 5, 2017 5:22 PM - Neoony: cause there is extra step for source games
    Jan 5, 2017 5:22 PM - Neoony: and then you need to get my preset
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Neoony: paste it over it
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: nah it's okay
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: just needed to open the GUI
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: and select the stuff
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Neoony: then u dont have my preset though
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Neoony: iam guessing
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: overly bright brightness
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: yes I do
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Neoony: did you move all the stuff into bin folder?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: but I still had to select it in-game
    Jan 5, 2017 5:23 PM - Xyaminou: ya
    Jan 5, 2017 5:24 PM - Neoony: if you had to select it it means it wasnt loaded
    Jan 5, 2017 5:24 PM - Neoony: wait
    Jan 5, 2017 5:24 PM - Neoony: select effects? or the preset file?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:24 PM - Xyaminou: it is now
    Jan 5, 2017 5:24 PM - Xyaminou: the .ini
    Jan 5, 2017 5:24 PM - Xyaminou: wasn't selected
    Jan 5, 2017 5:24 PM - Neoony: if too bright try disabling hdr
    Jan 5, 2017 5:25 PM - Neoony: its quite different on other maps
    Jan 5, 2017 5:25 PM - Neoony: I only spend like half a day with this thing
    Jan 5, 2017 5:26 PM - Neoony: get a screenshot uploaded xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:26 PM - Xyaminou: meh
    Jan 5, 2017 5:26 PM - Xyaminou: it's not for me
    Jan 5, 2017 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: just makes everything hurts my eyes, even with HDR off.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:27 PM - Neoony: needs to be tweaked
    Jan 5, 2017 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: how do I uninstall/disable?
    Jan 5, 2017 5:27 PM - Xyaminou: maybe
    Jan 5, 2017 5:27 PM - Neoony: remove the dll
    Jan 5, 2017 5:29 PM - Neoony: quite a problem that empires has many different thematics on maps
    Jan 5, 2017 5:29 PM - Neoony: so probably wont be easy to find a single setting
    Jan 5, 2017 5:29 PM - Xyaminou: meh, Empires will be empires
    Jan 5, 2017 5:31 PM - Neoony: well maybe I will make some subtle preset just for you :P
    Jan 5, 2017 5:31 PM - Xyaminou: cool
    Jan 5, 2017 5:32 PM - Neoony: I mean, there usualy isnt as many effects used in the presets as I used xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:32 PM - Neoony: Its literally just my first 3-4 first hours ever going deep into it and actually making my own preset
    Jan 5, 2017 5:34 PM - Xyaminou: I usually avoid custom shaders in games to be honest, especially FPS.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:35 PM - Neoony: well yeah
    Jan 5, 2017 5:36 PM - Neoony: although it can also be quite good at making things more visible :P
    Jan 5, 2017 5:36 PM - Neoony: which is also why many use it in FPS xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:38 PM - Neoony: But hell, for making a video, screenshots or so in empires
    Jan 5, 2017 5:38 PM - Neoony: hell yeah
    Jan 5, 2017 5:38 PM - Xyaminou: hackers...
    Jan 5, 2017 5:38 PM - Xyaminou: yeah screenshot and videos, sure, but for day to day games, nope.
    Jan 5, 2017 5:38 PM - Neoony: little vibrancy wont hurt you xD
    Jan 5, 2017 5:39 PM - Polyesta: The only dude who hacks here is Neoony
    Jan 5, 2017 5:39 PM - Polyesta: Ban his ass
    Jan 5, 2017 5:39 PM - Neoony: https://www.google.nl/search?q=csgo...UICCgB&biw=1920&bih=882#imgrc=cdt_NIKt_jtzeM:
    Jan 5, 2017 5:39 PM - Neoony: thats what people usually use
    Jan 5, 2017 5:40 PM - Polyesta: data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBxQSEhMSExMVEhMXGBcVGBgYExgVGBUXFRgaFxUTFRYYHSggGBolHRUVITEhKCkrMC4uFx8zODMsNygtLisBCgoKDg0OFxAQGyslHR0tLS0tLS0tListLS0tLSsrKy0tLS0tLSsrLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0rLSstLS0tLf/AABEIAOwA1gMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAcAAEAAQUBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAABwIDBAUGCAH/xAA/EAACAQICBwUECQIFBQAAAAAAAQIDEQQhBQYSMUFRYQcTInGBFDJCkSNScoKSobHB0TPwQ1Nic6I0g7LC4f/EABkBAQEBAQEBAAAAA
    Jan 5, 2017 5:40 PM - Polyesta: [​IMG]
    Jan 5, 2017 5:40 PM - Neoony: in some ways, you could actually improve your FPS a lot
    Jan 5, 2017 5:40 PM - Xyaminou: keep trying...
     
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    Jan 5, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Polyesta: wtf my hammer pics not working,
    Jan 5, 2017 at 5:40 PM - Xyaminou: my FPS are fine.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 5:45 PM - Neoony: modding is never easy :P
    Jan 5, 2017 at 6:18 PM - Neoony: well, desert map looks really awful on that preset xD
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM - NekoBaron: oh look I get banned for ghosting, Ive never seen anyone banned for ghosting, guess security is having a kiddy fit.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:29 PM - NekoBaron: also ban time of -1436 mins? it should have expired yesterday.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:31 PM - NekoBaron: who needs rules when you can make up shit right?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:51 PM - complete_: neko is trying to be a martyr like guns and whamo but what he doesnt realize is that catface isnt around to hardcode ban him
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:52 PM - complete_: wait how did you get your ban time? was sourcebans added back in or something?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:53 PM - Sgt.Security: Maaaybe Creeper made it so that you can see your ban time when you rejoin, but of course I can think maliciously as well.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:53 PM - Sgt.Security: I'll confirm with Creeper.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:55 PM - Avatarix: damn, now we are in the same boat
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:55 PM - complete_: you do realize i literally posted a person who was banned in the code of empires for saying something mean about a server owner
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:56 PM - NekoBaron: isnt mentioning that name bannable?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:57 PM - Avatarix: The One?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:57 PM - complete_: sorry. "the liar in our midst"
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:58 PM - complete_: security is acting offended on behalf of someone who i dont have a problem with and i cleared up the misunderstanding with. you'd think he would be more careful with not starting shit
    Jan 5, 2017 at 8:59 PM - NekoBaron: see now I dont even have a clue what your talking about, misunderstanding? who? what?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:00 PM - complete_: thecreeper. the misunderstanding was that theres an asshole screwing with the rcon so we cant have sourcebans
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:01 PM - NekoBaron: whats that got to do with security making up false reasons to ban me?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:02 PM - complete_: not everything is about you
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:03 PM - NekoBaron: how bans work at nubs, get upset, ban for x, write reason y, refuse and avoid talking about it.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:18 PM - vipervicki: neko is lucky I wasnt there Im itchin to perma ban him w/o appeal
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:28 PM - NekoBaron: I dont think youll ever top the best ban reason I got in the past which was reason team killer and I was on spectate for that match.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: fairly certain whamo isn't hardcode banned from the game, just from NUBS and the main community groups
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also for the record, people do get banned for ghosting
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: team killer is a pre-entered reason that can be chosen when banning via the plugin menu; it usually stands for griefing as there's no such option there
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:30 PM - NekoBaron: I joined the team with least players, they had no comm for like 2 mins, other people joined the team at the same time including another admin who was online, only I get banned.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i can't speak about the incident, i wasn't present at the time
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:32 PM - NekoBaron: of course, which is why people are always complaining about bans, because you cant do fuck all or even get a straight answer once banned.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:32 PM - vipervicki: they should change the name of the shoutbox to the whinebox
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:33 PM - NekoBaron: see vicki dont want to talk about bans, change the subject more, whine about how hard it was to run a server in the old days more vicki please, we need stories of ye olde times.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:34 PM - vipervicki: neko head my other statemtn and take it as a warning
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:34 PM - vipervicki: heed*
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:35 PM - vipervicki: thye may tolerate your shit tlak and insult son the forums but I have had it with you..dont push me
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:36 PM - NekoBaron: vicki serriously why the fuck are you still around, you say it was a nightmare to admin a server and yet here you are still an admin in a stressful position of power, shoving your nose into everything, we going to talk about unfair bans yet? course not because no one does.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:37 PM - vipervicki: u can go back to gmod and try selling your maps on other forums again since your so unhappy here
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:37 PM - vipervicki: why are u around?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:38 PM - NekoBaron: avoiding the unfair bans still, keep going.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:38 PM - vipervicki: so wheres your server?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:38 PM - NekoBaron: you play dodgeball much vicki?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:39 PM - vipervicki: so how many maps did you try and sell?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM - vipervicki: you seem like the pro at dodgeballstill no answer about the server you were putting up
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM - complete_: i think he was ddd since no one has corrected me and catface's post a year ago seemed pretty clear
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:41 PM - vipervicki: about what complete?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:41 PM - vipervicki: about guns?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:42 PM - vipervicki: nah hes not hardcore banned
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:42 PM - vipervicki: only a few are and on is pcwidzan the others i nevr heard of
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:42 PM - vipervicki: one*
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:42 PM - vipervicki: i think only 6 people are but dont know any of them cpet pc
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:42 PM - vipervicki: cept
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:43 PM - NekoBaron: vicki using the old spam the chatbox trick again.
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:44 PM - vipervicki: then you would hate chatting with trickster
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:45 PM - vipervicki: if it bothers u theres an x in the upper right hadn corner..click it
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:48 PM - complete_: surprising that hes not hard code banned since i figured banishment from servers and forum meant hard code. i havent seen him join outside servers either
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:50 PM - vipervicki: dont think thats a criteria for hard core banning but dunno
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:50 PM - vipervicki: we all know why pc was and its very justified
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:50 PM - vipervicki: the others i nevr heard of
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:51 PM - vipervicki: was proably before my time in empires
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:52 PM - vipervicki: im surprised slayer wasnt
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:53 PM - complete_: the other guys just shut down the game for awhile by griefing alot. it was pretty tame (think they were from around montreal)
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:54 PM - vipervicki: ah ok i never knew them
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:54 PM - vipervicki: but slayer shud have been
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:54 PM - vipervicki: pc's cohort
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:55 PM - vipervicki: i dont evne think mr die is hardcore banned but i dont recall exactly
    Jan 5, 2017 at 9:55 PM - complete_: yep
    Jan 5, 2017 at 10:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: he isn't
    Jan 5, 2017 at 10:01 PM - vipervicki: didnt think so
    Jan 5, 2017 at 10:02 PM - vipervicki: destoryer are we done with wurm?
    Jan 5, 2017 at 10:02 PM - vipervicki: destroyer
    Jan 5, 2017 at 11:52 PM - A-z-K: Goddamnit Neko you are such a thundercunt it makes my eyebrows ache
    Jan 6, 2017 at 12:23 AM - Señor_Awesome: Yeah my eyebrows typically ache after I encounter a thundercunt. But I think for a different reason...
    Jan 6, 2017 at 12:46 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you're not supposed to interact with them via eyebrows
    Jan 6, 2017 at 12:49 AM - Señor_Awesome: I like to get naughty
    Jan 6, 2017 at 1:26 AM - vipervicki: lol u guys r funny
    Jan 6, 2017 at 1:26 AM - vipervicki: and azk i totally agree
    Jan 6, 2017 at 2:02 AM - vipervicki: nice 38 on nubs
    Jan 6, 2017 at 2:04 AM - VulcanStorm: Nice to know we have players back :)
    Jan 6, 2017 at 2:07 AM - vipervicki: yup hope they stay around
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:48 AM - CRITAWAKETS: GAW got banned?
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:48 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Dear god, i feel like by association i am related to 2 banned people of empires
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:48 AM - CRITAWAKETS: and by that i am a scum myself.
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:48 AM - CRITAWAKETS: I cant even react anymore
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:49 AM - CRITAWAKETS: If anyone checks my friends list, they will find "The One"
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:49 AM - CRITAWAKETS: thats not his name but i dont want to have people immediately attack me for being slight friends with him
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:50 AM - Paradox: mrdie
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:50 AM - Paradox: you are a fucking retard
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:50 AM - CRITAWAKETS: fuck
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:50 AM - Paradox: if you have him as a friend
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:50 AM - Paradox: and if you are actually friends with him
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:50 AM - Paradox: then you might be an even bigger fucking retard
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:50 AM - Paradox: not even joking
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM - CRITAWAKETS: i also have Guns and Whamo on my friends list
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM - CRITAWAKETS: I should probably continue purging my friends list if i want to maintain playing this game again
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:52 AM - Sgt.Security: Guns isn't that bad, I see no problem having him on the list if you don't have issue with the game, but Mrdie is like
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:52 AM - Sgt.Security: Another level.
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:52 AM - Sgt.Security: with the guy*
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:52 AM - Z100000M: someone who wanted to get vicky persecudted by the FBI
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:52 AM - Z100000M: not bad
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:52 AM - Z100000M: haha
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:53 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Well Sgt.Security.
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:53 AM - CRITAWAKETS: I have issues with the game, but that is more of different reasons.
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:55 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Stuff like "Sounds were better before the update" and "This is unbalanced"
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:56 AM - Sgt.Security: Yeah z00m I might have lost that, I just know he's a liar and shit.
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:57 AM - Z100000M: he wanted me to give him info on vicky because of his beef with vicky which ended in his ban
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:58 AM - Z100000M: also there is no problem with you having people on sf crit
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:59 AM - Z100000M: when i tried defending GAW at first because of the lack of proof he gifted me games
    Jan 6, 2017 at 3:59 AM - Z100000M: not sure where im going with this but
    Jan 6, 2017 at 4:01 AM - Sgt.Security: Honesty I think it's more about "would the guy use you to reach what he wants" than "what he did exactly"
    Jan 6, 2017 at 4:01 AM - vipervicki: guns and whacko imo
    Jan 6, 2017 at 4:01 AM - CRITAWAKETS: To be honest...
    Jan 6, 2017 at 4:02 AM - CRITAWAKETS: I wonder if this is even a game anymore or a dictatorship.
    Jan 6, 2017 at 4:02 AM - CRITAWAKETS: ... Im going down the same path as all the other problem users am i not?
     
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    Jan 6, 2017 4:21 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Well, its hard to swallow 20 pills at once because of all the mental disorders you have.
    Jan 6, 2017 4:21 AM - CRITAWAKETS: So i just dont take meds
    Jan 6, 2017 4:24 AM - vipervicki: why 20?
    Jan 6, 2017 4:25 AM - vipervicki: in any case i hope you feel better
    Jan 6, 2017 4:25 AM - CRITAWAKETS: thats just an overexaggeration
    Jan 6, 2017 4:25 AM - vipervicki: k
    Jan 6, 2017 4:26 AM - CRITAWAKETS: then again i dont know how many mental disorders i have but its possibly close
    Jan 6, 2017 4:43 AM - complete_: maybe you should take advantage of the fact that you get free healthcare unlike the 300 million people below you and swallow your fucking pills
    Jan 6, 2017 4:57 AM - spobely: how do i become a turrent
    Jan 6, 2017 5:01 AM - Señor_Awesome: I'm starting down the path. Last year I had 2-3 inbox alerts about posts I had made! Soon I shall be as persecuted as the rest of my brethren
    Jan 6, 2017 5:02 AM - complete_: spobely: the answer to that question is in yourself. find your truth. "follow your bliss" ~ joseph campbell
    Jan 6, 2017 5:05 AM - Kidpaler: https://sli.mg/34sfqO
    Jan 6, 2017 5:05 AM - Kidpaler: How does it look for an hours work?
    Jan 6, 2017 5:07 AM - Kidpaler: Mainly thats at complete since hes mapped a lot
    Jan 6, 2017 5:30 AM - complete_: better than me. lmao
    Jan 6, 2017 5:31 AM - complete_: the real question is can a tank navigate it? or can they get out if they fall in
    Jan 6, 2017 5:41 AM - Sgt.Security: I don't think even an AFV can, I imagined myself driving and those boxes ahead would block me.
    Jan 6, 2017 5:50 AM - Kidpaler: Its infantry map
    Jan 6, 2017 5:50 AM - Kidpaler: Well, will be.
    Jan 6, 2017 5:50 AM - Kidpaler: Its gonna be a trench network with a "no mans land" but will have cover, and then more trenches
    Jan 6, 2017 5:50 AM - Kidpaler: With a tad bit of forest and maybe a destroyed buiilding or two in nomans land
    Jan 6, 2017 5:51 AM - flasche: i was just going to ask
    Jan 6, 2017 5:51 AM - flasche: i see lots of props, on a comm map you might run into limits
    Jan 6, 2017 5:51 AM - Kidpaler: Yea, this is going to be a small infantry map
    Jan 6, 2017 5:53 AM - flasche: kinda reminds me on that one bf1 map
    Jan 6, 2017 5:53 AM - flasche: except that it obviously isnt the same quality, but if you could do that in source youd be a magican
    Jan 6, 2017 5:54 AM - Kidpaler: lol
    Jan 6, 2017 5:54 AM - Kidpaler: I want to make underground bunkers... but that is SO much work
    Jan 6, 2017 5:55 AM - flasche: because?
    Jan 6, 2017 5:56 AM - Kidpaler: Well, the way I would do it is a lot of displacements and just creating the entrance to it is hard
    Jan 6, 2017 5:57 AM - flasche: as long as you do it on the grid, you can cut displacements after modifying them
    Jan 6, 2017 5:57 AM - flasche: so you can just cut out the entrance afterwards
    Jan 6, 2017 5:57 AM - Kidpaler: Hmmm, I guess I could do the hollow/carve thing
    Jan 6, 2017 5:58 AM - flasche: i guess the bunker itself should be brushes
    Jan 6, 2017 5:58 AM - flasche: unless you want a rounded ceiling, but it needs to be enclosed in brushes too for visibility reasons
    Jan 6, 2017 5:59 AM - flasche: also dont use carve ^^
    Jan 6, 2017 5:59 AM - flasche: youre not jephir
    Jan 6, 2017 5:59 AM - flasche: hahahaa
    Jan 6, 2017 5:59 AM - Kidpaler: I don't exactly get the cut tool
    Jan 6, 2017 5:59 AM - Kidpaler: Otherwise I'd probably use it more
    Jan 6, 2017 6:00 AM - Kidpaler: Sometimes it cuts, sometimes it doesnt. Haven't exactly figured out why, but I've been managing
    Jan 6, 2017 6:00 AM - flasche: the white thing stays
    Jan 6, 2017 6:00 AM - flasche: if you press cut again you can have it either left, right, or both
    Jan 6, 2017 6:00 AM - flasche: the remaining mesh cannot be too complex
    Jan 6, 2017 6:00 AM - Kidpaler: Oh?
    Jan 6, 2017 6:00 AM - Kidpaler: Okay
    Jan 6, 2017 6:00 AM - flasche: and always make sure to cut to the grid
    Jan 6, 2017 6:01 AM - flasche: and sadly you can only cut in 2 dimensions
    Jan 6, 2017 6:01 AM - flasche: if you need more complex shapes you also need to use the vertex manipulation tool
    Jan 6, 2017 6:01 AM - Kidpaler: Why can't hammer be more complex :/
    Jan 6, 2017 6:01 AM - Kidpaler: And allow for more complex things to be done
    Jan 6, 2017 6:01 AM - flasche: bc its ancient
    Jan 6, 2017 6:02 AM - flasche: and yes, hammer sucks badly
    Jan 6, 2017 6:02 AM - Kidpaler: Someone out there has updated it, someone has had to.
    Jan 6, 2017 6:02 AM - Kidpaler: There has to be a publicly updated version.
    Jan 6, 2017 6:02 AM - flasche: you wished
    Jan 6, 2017 6:03 AM - flasche: theres that tools for source 2 tho. but we aint on source 2
    Jan 6, 2017 6:03 AM - flasche: is an updated hammer version with some nice features
    Jan 6, 2017 6:03 AM - Kidpaler: Is source 2 even public yet?
    Jan 6, 2017 6:03 AM - flasche: i dont think the engine is
    Jan 6, 2017 6:03 AM - flasche: dota2 is source 2 tho
    Jan 6, 2017 6:04 AM - flasche: but i dont really get why youd want source 2 anyways.
    Jan 6, 2017 6:04 AM - flasche: you = the general you
    Jan 6, 2017 6:04 AM - Kidpaler: Cause... then Empires could... uhh... claim its on Source 2
    Jan 6, 2017 6:05 AM - flasche: hehe
    Jan 6, 2017 6:06 AM - flasche: id rather have empires on something like unreal - or actually unreal
    Jan 6, 2017 6:06 AM - flasche: but mapping is different there, and the mapping tools in unreal are kinda worse than hammer
    Jan 6, 2017 6:06 AM - flasche: but you do a lot in 3rd party programms like 3ds, maya or even blender
    Jan 6, 2017 6:07 AM - Kidpaler: Yep, glad we have hammer.
    Jan 6, 2017 6:07 AM - flasche: its just the huge visblocking blockout done in the editor - or terrain (but you can do that in 3rd party apps aswell)
    Jan 6, 2017 6:08 AM - flasche: blender is so much nicer to use than hammer
    Jan 6, 2017 6:08 AM - Kidpaler: I wish Hammer didn't have the entity limit though, or source itself could handle more
    Jan 6, 2017 6:08 AM - flasche: different tho
    Jan 6, 2017 6:08 AM - flasche: yeah its all because its just old
    Jan 6, 2017 6:08 AM - flasche: no content streaming
    Jan 6, 2017 6:09 AM - Kidpaler: I know, it really sucks because my Forestattack map is delayed till I get the tree models bundled together to cut that down
    Jan 6, 2017 6:09 AM - flasche: so it was the entity limit fuckign you over?
    Jan 6, 2017 6:10 AM - Kidpaler: I think, LorDz took a look and rendered it without entities and it worked fine
    Jan 6, 2017 6:10 AM - Kidpaler: I wasn't over the limit, but for some reason it was the cause
    Jan 6, 2017 6:10 AM - flasche: well the game entities also count toward the limit
    Jan 6, 2017 6:10 AM - Kidpaler: I was at like 1953 out of 2000 whatever
    Jan 6, 2017 6:11 AM - Kidpaler: It would crash even with 1 player
    Jan 6, 2017 6:11 AM - Kidpaler: Well, on a dedicated server. On a local server it could change fine
    Jan 6, 2017 6:12 AM - flasche: it didnt even look like there were that many trees on that overview you posted
    Jan 6, 2017 6:12 AM - Kidpaler: There wasn't really..
    Jan 6, 2017 6:13 AM - flasche: maybe you could remove half the trees, try, if it works remove the other half, and so on
    Jan 6, 2017 6:13 AM - flasche: maybe its just a few bad tress for whatever reason idk
    Jan 6, 2017 6:14 AM - Kidpaler: I think my hammer is also messed up, I have a weird bug where it can't do two compiles in a row.
    Jan 6, 2017 6:14 AM - flasche: ah i had that aswell
    Jan 6, 2017 6:14 AM - flasche: no clue what i did to make it go away
    Jan 6, 2017 6:15 AM - flasche: or even if it did go away at all ^^
    Jan 6, 2017 6:15 AM - Kidpaler: I have to verify the game cache everytime I want to recompile
    Jan 6, 2017 6:15 AM - flasche: oh shit, for me restarting was sufficient
    Jan 6, 2017 6:15 AM - flasche: do you use the advanced compile options?
    Jan 6, 2017 6:16 AM - Kidpaler: I have to otherwise it doesn't compile correctly
    Jan 6, 2017 6:16 AM - flasche: and do you compile vrad with -both?
    Jan 6, 2017 6:16 AM - flasche: bc that caused a lot of issues for me
    Jan 6, 2017 6:16 AM - Kidpaler: Oh? No I dont
    Jan 6, 2017 6:17 AM - flasche: you can duplicate the vrad entry and have one -ldr and one -hdr (and untick the 2nd for test compiles)
    Jan 6, 2017 6:17 AM - flasche: but if you dont do that anyway, well, then its not the issue ^^
    Jan 6, 2017 6:18 AM - Kidpaler: ALl I want to do is make open infantry maps and Hammer hates me for it :(
    Jan 6, 2017 6:18 AM - flasche: source was made for indoor maps
    Jan 6, 2017 6:18 AM - flasche: and small outdoor areas
    Jan 6, 2017 6:19 AM - flasche: you know about viscluster i assume
    Jan 6, 2017 6:19 AM - flasche: its vor vvis tho
    Jan 6, 2017 6:19 AM - flasche: for*
    Jan 6, 2017 6:19 AM - Kidpaler: No I do not
    Jan 6, 2017 6:19 AM - Kidpaler: Is it something I should look at?
    Jan 6, 2017 6:20 AM - flasche: yes it cuts the vvis compile time to about null
    Jan 6, 2017 6:20 AM - flasche: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Func_viscluster
    Jan 6, 2017 6:21 AM - flasche: it bundles the vis-nodes
    Jan 6, 2017 6:21 AM - Kidpaler: Ah. okay
    Jan 6, 2017 6:21 AM - flasche: also make sure all your bunkers and so are func_detail
    Jan 6, 2017 6:21 AM - flasche: then they can be inside the viscluster
    Jan 6, 2017 6:22 AM - flasche: atm you create tons and tons of visleaves
    Jan 6, 2017 6:23 AM - flasche: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Func_detail
    Jan 6, 2017 6:23 AM - Kidpaler: Hmmm
    Jan 6, 2017 6:23 AM - Kidpaler: Alright
    Jan 6, 2017 6:24 AM - flasche: the vbsp and vvis compile times on drygulch are maybe 2 seconds
    Jan 6, 2017 6:24 AM - Kidpaler: Really?
    Jan 6, 2017 6:25 AM - Kidpaler: Wow...
    Jan 6, 2017 6:25 AM - flasche: together
    Jan 6, 2017 6:25 AM - flasche: vrad takes quite a while tho
    Jan 6, 2017 6:26 AM - Kidpaler: Hell yea it does
    Jan 6, 2017 6:27 AM - flasche: cant do much about it, except for raising the lightmap size, but then it has even less shadows
    Jan 6, 2017 6:28 AM - Kidpaler: I want max shadows. Looks best with shadows.
    Jan 6, 2017 6:28 AM - flasche: you can improve a bit if you raise it only on surfaces which do not receive shadows, but its probably not worth the work
    Jan 6, 2017 6:28 AM - CRITAWAKETS: what is mapping
    Jan 6, 2017 6:28 AM - flasche: baby dont hurt me
    Jan 6, 2017 6:30 AM - flasche: id happily reduce the lightmap scale to 1 - but then you run into the next limit and the compile will fail
    Jan 6, 2017 6:30 AM - Kidpaler: lol... I haven't even fully figured out the lighting. Haven't toyed around with it much
    Jan 6, 2017 6:31 AM - flasche: in general the lower the lightmap scale the more crisp the shadows
    Jan 6, 2017 6:31 AM - flasche: and it needs to be powers of 2
    Jan 6, 2017 6:32 AM - Kidpaler: Learn something new everyday
    Jan 6, 2017 6:32 AM - flasche: idk what "empires hammer" has it set it to, its quite large (there barely are nice shadows on any empires map)
    Jan 6, 2017 6:32 AM - flasche: probably could cut it in half, but it will add to compile times a lot
    Jan 6, 2017 6:32 AM - flasche: only worth it for the final compile
    Jan 6, 2017 6:33 AM - flasche: you set it in the texture tool
    Jan 6, 2017 6:33 AM - flasche: oh man i spent too much time in hammer lol
    Jan 6, 2017 6:33 AM - Kidpaler: Ohhhh okay. Yea, I want this to be a nice looking map since its an infantry map
    Jan 6, 2017 6:34 AM - Kidpaler: Hrm.... or maybe I won't worry much about the lighting and just do rainy
    Jan 6, 2017 6:34 AM - flasche: and i didnt even explore a tenth of the entities like dz or keef
    Jan 6, 2017 6:34 AM - flasche: or blizzerd
    Jan 6, 2017 6:36 AM - Kidpaler: I know I can figure one thing out which I want to do, instead of having just a regular old skybox, surround the map in triggers which hurt you and eventually kill you
    Jan 6, 2017 6:36 AM - Kidpaler: With a sound that plays to just you saying "return to combat":
    Jan 6, 2017 6:37 AM - flasche: that should be doable, but i have absolutely no idea how
    Jan 6, 2017 6:37 AM - flasche: it should be somthing like a trigger and a timer which then hurts you for 999hp
    Jan 6, 2017 6:38 AM - flasche: but _shrug_
    Jan 6, 2017 6:38 AM - flasche: im quite sure dz could tell you instantly
    Jan 6, 2017 6:39 AM - Kidpaler: He seems like the go to man
    Jan 6, 2017 6:39 AM - Kidpaler: Is he working with the Black mesa people?
    Jan 6, 2017 6:39 AM - flasche: yes he definatly knows his hammer
    Jan 6, 2017 6:40 AM - flasche: no idea
    Jan 6, 2017 6:40 AM - Kidpaler: Im convinced he is because he is always on Black mesa and I talked with him and he knows a LOT about how they are doing the levels and such
    Jan 6, 2017 6:44 AM - flasche: maybe. as said he knows his shit in hammer.
    Jan 6, 2017 7:03 AM - CRITAWAKETS: man, renember when empries was going to be ported to unreal or unity?
    Jan 6, 2017 7:03 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Back in 2012?
    Jan 6, 2017 8:28 AM - CRITAWAKETS: Should MrDie even be trusted?
    Jan 6, 2017 8:39 AM - Avatarix: no he shouldnt
    Jan 6, 2017 10:11 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: Anyone up for somenew map testing later today?
    Jan 6, 2017 10:30 AM - Avatarix: i could be up for testing
    Jan 6, 2017 10:30 AM - Avatarix: hmm
    Jan 6, 2017 11:25 AM - Terminator-X29B: which time?
    Jan 6, 2017 11:41 AM - Avatarix: do you thing the empires will live for te next 48,37320031298905 years?
    Jan 6, 2017 11:41 AM - Avatarix: bc i will be then unbanned at nubs :D
    Jan 6, 2017 11:45 AM - flasche: lol 48years
    Jan 6, 2017 11:46 AM - Avatarix: yeah, i will be like 65 years then
    Jan 6, 2017 11:46 AM - Avatarix: seems like a decent reason to survive for so long
    Jan 6, 2017 11:46 AM - flasche: i wonder how the world looks then
    Jan 6, 2017 11:46 AM - flasche: maybe its all radiated wasteland already
    Jan 6, 2017 11:47 AM - flasche: and you fight rad scorpions and deathclaws
    Jan 6, 2017 11:47 AM - flasche: or turned to a ghoul
    Jan 6, 2017 11:47 AM - Avatarix: yeah, playing empires with other survivors when people outside vaults fight for their lives
    Jan 6, 2017 11:48 AM - flasche: or maybe your just one of those scenery skeletons
    Jan 6, 2017 11:48 AM - Avatarix: and The One Whose Name Shall Not Be Spelled could became a supermutant and rait the vaults in search of empires devs
    Jan 6, 2017 11:48 AM - flasche: you are*
    Jan 6, 2017 11:49 AM - flasche: 48 years is a long time
    Jan 6, 2017 11:49 AM - Avatarix: yeah, try imagining source 2064
    Jan 6, 2017 11:49 AM - flasche: i actually dont even know how long it is
    Jan 6, 2017 11:50 AM - flasche: my memory goes back maybe 25years
    Jan 6, 2017 11:50 AM - flasche: thats about half of it and so much happened
    Jan 6, 2017 12:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: brb listening to drunk finnish metal instead of finishing map
    Jan 6, 2017 12:36 PM - Xyaminou: what band?
    Jan 6, 2017 12:39 PM - Xyaminou: by the way I ordered a new headset because my old one broke.
    Jan 6, 2017 12:39 PM - Xyaminou: and this one has a microphone.
    Jan 6, 2017 12:39 PM - Xyaminou: so supposedly I'm gonna have a better microphone soonTM.
    Jan 6, 2017 12:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: suamenlejjona
    Jan 6, 2017 12:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also fml i don't have the textures i've been using and finding maps for empires is paaaain
    Jan 6, 2017 1:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/auj7wv72hitd7x6/Zrzut ekranu 2017-01-06 14.24.11.png?dl=0
    Jan 6, 2017 2:11 PM - Avatarix: this map looks... simple?
    Jan 6, 2017 2:11 PM - Avatarix: forum post when?
    Jan 6, 2017 5:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: when it's ready for release. and yes it's super basic, almost on purpose
    Jan 6, 2017 6:02 PM - CRITAWAKETS: its so basic its literally coded in BASIC
    Jan 6, 2017 6:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: actually it's Hammer. I did my displacements three times over because of errors
    Jan 6, 2017 8:02 PM - flasche: oh the joys of hammer
    Jan 6, 2017 8:06 PM - NekoBaron: good displacement needs mad skills
    Jan 6, 2017 8:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and patience
    Jan 6, 2017 8:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have none right now
    Jan 6, 2017 9:08 PM - NekoBaron: ingredients for good displacement, textures, enough brushes, and yeah ll the patience...
    Jan 6, 2017 9:14 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=836323815
    Jan 6, 2017 10:00 PM - NekoBaron: yay I found out my day ban was extended to perma, gotta love that people can ban you from the entire game and dont need any reason other then they can.
    Jan 6, 2017 11:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: not entire game, just one server
    Jan 6, 2017 11:45 PM - Neoony: now you just need a forums ban
    Jan 6, 2017 11:45 PM - Neoony: and everyone can be happy
    Jan 6, 2017 11:55 PM - Neoony: anyways, the shaders thing has proven much more difficult, because it seems each map uses completely different kind of lighting, lol
    Jan 6, 2017 11:55 PM - Kidpaler: Yeaaaaaaaaap
    Jan 6, 2017 11:56 PM - Neoony: still can be a good thing for videos/screenshots
    Jan 7, 2017 12:23 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: can confirm the lighting thing
    Jan 7, 2017 12:46 AM - Señor_Awesome: Hey D.D.D. guess what the difference between you and me is
    Jan 7, 2017 12:48 AM - Señor_Awesome: when I quit the forums/game I don't make a thread about it :D
    Jan 7, 2017 1:07 AM - Sgt.Security: You know what's the difference between you and me?
    Jan 7, 2017 1:07 AM - Sgt.Security: You sink as a boat.
    Jan 7, 2017 1:11 AM - Neoony: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=836479357
    Jan 7, 2017 1:12 AM - Neoony: who even makes/uses a spray like that xD
    Jan 7, 2017 1:15 AM - Señor_Awesome: the player 'fuck you'
    Jan 7, 2017 1:15 AM - Señor_Awesome: like that's his name, and that's his spray
    Jan 7, 2017 1:16 AM - Neoony: oh really? xD
    Jan 7, 2017 1:16 AM - Neoony: oh right
    Jan 7, 2017 1:16 AM - Neoony: I know which one xD
    Jan 7, 2017 1:17 AM - Neoony: I was just thinking if this was actually aimed at the server owners/admins xD
    Jan 7, 2017 1:17 AM - Señor_Awesome: he's used it to cover up my spray once or twice
    Jan 7, 2017 1:17 AM - Señor_Awesome: so... maybe
    Jan 7, 2017 1:18 AM - vipervicki: update is fooked
    Jan 7, 2017 1:18 AM - vipervicki: gj :(
    Jan 7, 2017 1:18 AM - Señor_Awesome: sad
    Jan 7, 2017 1:18 AM - Neoony: ugh
    Jan 7, 2017 1:19 AM - vipervicki: grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr over 40 people smashed to smithereens
    Jan 7, 2017 1:19 AM - Señor_Awesome: oh dear what was it another terrorist attack
    Jan 7, 2017 1:19 AM - vipervicki: i think thecreeper is trying to get a fix
    Jan 7, 2017 1:19 AM - Señor_Awesome: Mr Freeze became real
    Jan 7, 2017 1:19 AM - vipervicki: lol yeah
    Jan 7, 2017 1:19 AM - vipervicki: terror at empires
    Jan 7, 2017 1:19 AM - VulcanStorm: ?
    Jan 7, 2017 1:19 AM - vipervicki: i blame mr x
    Jan 7, 2017 1:20 AM - vipervicki: updated nubs now we cant join
    Jan 7, 2017 1:20 AM - vipervicki: says serve ris using a newer version
    Jan 7, 2017 1:20 AM - VulcanStorm: Revalidate your game cache?
    Jan 7, 2017 1:20 AM - vipervicki: i restarted client and still no
    Jan 7, 2017 1:20 AM - VulcanStorm: Yes... It is...
    Jan 7, 2017 1:21 AM - vipervicki: creeper fixed it
    Jan 7, 2017 1:21 AM - Neoony: mind any edits to your gamefiles, if you revalidate...btw
    Jan 7, 2017 1:21 AM - vipervicki: can all join
    Jan 7, 2017 1:21 AM - vipervicki: the devs updated server but not clients :(
    Jan 7, 2017 1:21 AM - Neoony: if you maybe received updated sounds or so
    Jan 7, 2017 1:22 AM - VulcanStorm: Ok... So 2.11.3 is on the beta branch
    Jan 7, 2017 1:22 AM - Neoony: from trump
    Jan 7, 2017 1:22 AM - vipervicki: its working now thecreeper fixed it
    Jan 7, 2017 1:22 AM - Señor_Awesome: I only have a few edits to my gamefiles... like the squadleader.cfg
    Jan 7, 2017 1:22 AM - VulcanStorm: But the released one is still 2.11.2
    Jan 7, 2017 1:22 AM - Señor_Awesome: and some updated NF textures that are half bakes
    Jan 7, 2017 1:47 AM - Thexa4: Sorry, I made a mistake while releasing 2.11.3, if you restart steam it should work correctly.
    Jan 7, 2017 2:17 AM - Sgt.Security: It's all good now
    Jan 7, 2017 3:03 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: senor, you never quit, liar!
    Jan 7, 2017 3:04 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 'sides, i only peaced out of the forums
     
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    Jan 7, 2017 4:15 AM - o_O: aha I found my account I am back
    Jan 7, 2017 4:45 AM - Señor_Awesome: not true I quit for 3-4 months
    Jan 7, 2017 7:59 AM - complete_: this shoutbox has as much sporatic activity as the game
    Jan 7, 2017 8:46 AM - .:.HeXi.:. emcalex329: Oh wow, I'm blind. I only now realized that this existed.
    Jan 7, 2017 9:27 AM - Kidpaler: But... if you're blind, how did you see this at all?
    Jan 7, 2017 12:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i take breaks that long
    Jan 7, 2017 12:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=836856419
    Jan 7, 2017 1:20 PM - flasche: nice
    Jan 7, 2017 1:21 PM - flasche: where is the cactus tho?
    Jan 7, 2017 1:35 PM - NekoBaron: loads empires up, oh look at the server list, bot test or nubs, so yep I consider that preety much banned from all of empires.
    Jan 7, 2017 1:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: objection! my server is up right now
    Jan 7, 2017 1:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i think i forgot to change lvels though
    Jan 7, 2017 1:45 PM - flasche: i dont see your sever
    Jan 7, 2017 1:47 PM - flasche: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/331067/4destroyer/noseeserverQQ.PNG
    Jan 7, 2017 1:51 PM - vipervicki: i dont se eit either
    Jan 7, 2017 1:51 PM - vipervicki: see it
    Jan 7, 2017 1:51 PM - vipervicki: and hiya flasche
    Jan 7, 2017 1:58 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it worked yesterdsy, looks like my local IP changed and the ports are no longer open
    Jan 7, 2017 1:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: im not around to fix the problem though :P
    Jan 7, 2017 2:00 PM - flasche: hi there vicki
    Jan 7, 2017 2:02 PM - vipervicki: :)
    Jan 7, 2017 3:14 PM - Avatarix: @Paradox learn me how to ninja
    Jan 7, 2017 3:18 PM - Paradox: get good first trash can
    Jan 7, 2017 3:20 PM - Avatarix: get a good trash can?
    Jan 7, 2017 3:20 PM - Avatarix: but ninjas are black!
    Jan 7, 2017 4:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i think he missed a coma but it's more funny to assume not and that you do need a new trash can
    Jan 7, 2017 4:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i mean, mine's a paint bucket, so i guess it might help to have a new one
    Jan 7, 2017 4:11 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=836995623
    Jan 7, 2017 4:23 PM - NekoBaron: who turned off the sun destroyer?
    Jan 7, 2017 4:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=837012059
    Jan 7, 2017 4:25 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i forgot i turned off the lights visgroup
    Jan 7, 2017 4:29 PM - NekoBaron: lighting look better in the room, shame the ceiling lacks detail or facets, maybe some support beams or vents.
    Jan 7, 2017 4:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's on the list of things to do
    Jan 7, 2017 4:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: broadly called "operation Make It Pretty"
    Jan 7, 2017 4:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: little bit here as well: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=837031453
    Jan 7, 2017 5:47 PM - vipervicki: looks good ddd
    Jan 7, 2017 5:47 PM - vipervicki: u do great work
    Jan 7, 2017 5:47 PM - vipervicki: nuclear is one of my fav maps
    Jan 7, 2017 6:24 PM - flasche: my favorite change is that there are no sharp corners at the shooting slits (?) anymore
    Jan 7, 2017 6:27 PM - flasche: also that compile without lights looks kinda cool - its probably horrible to play, but nice visually
    Jan 7, 2017 8:16 PM - vipervicki: hopefully its not too dark to play
    Jan 7, 2017 9:10 PM - Kidpaler: 60 people on. Nice.
    Jan 7, 2017 9:17 PM - NekoBaron: I see 50, wonder how many afk.
    Jan 7, 2017 9:18 PM - Smithy: always negative :s
    Jan 7, 2017 9:18 PM - Smithy: I think about 8
    Jan 7, 2017 9:19 PM - Smithy: I left like 5 mins ago
    Jan 7, 2017 9:22 PM - NekoBaron: its more of a fact nowdays, at least with 50 on a handful of afks isnt too much of an issue, having a ton of afk when you only got 16 players on is when it gets a bit silly.
    Jan 7, 2017 10:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you leave AFKers unless server's fulll
    Jan 7, 2017 10:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: simple
    Jan 7, 2017 10:05 PM - NekoBaron: cant have everyone afk though
    Jan 8, 2017 12:31 AM - Señor_Awesome: every time I go to do something productive there are 50 people on empires
    Jan 8, 2017 12:31 AM - Señor_Awesome: coincidence? I think not.
    Jan 8, 2017 1:36 AM - vipervicki: LOL
    Jan 8, 2017 1:36 AM - vipervicki: itsa plot
    Jan 8, 2017 1:39 AM - vipervicki: krenzo put in a hidden code w/e someone wants to do something productive the server fills up
    Jan 8, 2017 2:53 AM - CRITAWAKETS: empires should get an new map
    Jan 8, 2017 2:53 AM - CRITAWAKETS: de_dust2
    Jan 8, 2017 2:53 AM - CRITAWAKETS: It will easily become the most played map the minute it is released
    Jan 8, 2017 3:13 AM - vipervicki: have de_dust for empires
    Jan 8, 2017 3:13 AM - vipervicki: not 2 tho
    Jan 8, 2017 3:13 AM - vipervicki: it was awesome
    Jan 8, 2017 3:14 AM - vipervicki: unfortunately when it was made for me and viper server the vehicle spawn thingy was broken and the map would crash the server at some point
    Jan 8, 2017 3:15 AM - vipervicki: it was my idea t have it for empires and my friend made it for me
    Jan 8, 2017 3:22 AM - CRITAWAKETS: come join NUBs
    Jan 8, 2017 3:22 AM - CRITAWAKETS: we have eastborough
    Jan 8, 2017 3:23 AM - vipervicki: im on the bed watching tv not on my desktop
    Jan 8, 2017 3:23 AM - vipervicki: sowwy
    Jan 8, 2017 3:32 AM - Neoony: hah, I managed to unlock the full power of reshade xD
    Jan 8, 2017 3:32 AM - Neoony: it can read depth from source
    Jan 8, 2017 3:33 AM - Neoony: now the real effects come xD
    Jan 8, 2017 3:33 AM - Neoony: but totally not for multiplayer xD
    Jan 8, 2017 3:53 AM - vipervicki: aww
    Jan 8, 2017 3:54 AM - vipervicki: i dont even kno what that is
     
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    Jan 8, 2017 4:08 AM - vipervicki: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5947333018
    Jan 8, 2017 5:50 AM - Neoony: sparky empires http://steamcommunity.com/id/neoonyx/screenshot/94973258563205265
    Jan 8, 2017 6:18 AM - flasche: neat
    Jan 8, 2017 6:18 AM - flasche: i love DoF
    Jan 8, 2017 6:19 AM - flasche: only looks a bit off for the calculator
    Jan 8, 2017 6:22 AM - Neoony: totally wasnt set for it
    Jan 8, 2017 6:22 AM - flasche: also is that a dark vignette or is that the texture?
    Jan 8, 2017 6:22 AM - Neoony: vignette in corners
    Jan 8, 2017 6:22 AM - Neoony: tons of effects tbh xD
    Jan 8, 2017 6:23 AM - Neoony: more here
    Jan 8, 2017 6:23 AM - flasche: yeah theres color correction and sharpness i think
    Jan 8, 2017 6:23 AM - Neoony: http://steamcommunity.com/id/neoonyx/screenshots/
    Jan 8, 2017 6:23 AM - Neoony: but I couldnt get the colors right with the new shaders xD
    Jan 8, 2017 6:23 AM - Neoony: just gotta experiment more
    Jan 8, 2017 6:24 AM - flasche: im not so much a fan over oversaturated colors
    Jan 8, 2017 6:24 AM - flasche: but thats taste, cant argue about it ^^
    Jan 8, 2017 6:24 AM - Neoony: If I use depth reading from source, cant go online
    Jan 8, 2017 6:24 AM - Neoony: the thing is that Iam constantly fighting AmbientLighting and it Adapting to it
    Jan 8, 2017 6:25 AM - Neoony: Its like a whole cycle xD
    Jan 8, 2017 6:25 AM - Neoony: Its somehow balancing and moving
    Jan 8, 2017 6:25 AM - Neoony: but then too hard
    Jan 8, 2017 6:25 AM - flasche: aww thats too bad, a DoF effect would be cool
    Jan 8, 2017 6:25 AM - Neoony: some effects are weird xD but nice xD
    Jan 8, 2017 6:25 AM - Neoony: gotta use r_drawvgui 0
    Jan 8, 2017 6:26 AM - Neoony: and thats flagged cheat
    Jan 8, 2017 6:26 AM - Neoony: or no depth and you can just go play around with colors and 2d
    Jan 8, 2017 6:27 AM - Neoony: just so hard to find balance xD You change one thing and everything changes xD
    Jan 8, 2017 6:27 AM - Neoony: 10-20 shaders with 8-15 settings
    Jan 8, 2017 6:27 AM - Neoony: or so
    Jan 8, 2017 6:29 AM - Neoony: now I need demos xD
    Jan 8, 2017 6:35 AM - Kidpaler: I can send you some if you want
    Jan 8, 2017 6:35 AM - Neoony: If they will work at this version, sure :P
    Jan 8, 2017 6:36 AM - Kidpaler: I just took one today during the 25v25 games
    Jan 8, 2017 12:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer:
    Jan 8, 2017 12:56 PM - flasche: not even 10minutes
    Jan 8, 2017 1:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i shouldnt have joined it, nf in particular
    Jan 8, 2017 1:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: be was all or almost all newcomers to the map and the unfamiliarity caused big issues navigating
    Jan 8, 2017 1:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which clearly indicates that before a6 comes out i need to improve visual and audio hints
    Jan 8, 2017 2:19 PM - flasche: im not entirely sure if you did already, but i think you should turn that one staircase around - the one on the rooftop right when you come from BE spawn
    Jan 8, 2017 2:20 PM - flasche: if you know what i mean
    Jan 8, 2017 3:07 PM - Lazybum: http://www.empiresmod.com/posts/2017-04-02-patreon.html
    Jan 8, 2017 3:08 PM - Lazybum: I just noticed that, makes me wonder how many forum goers missed it because everyone skips the main empires website
    Jan 8, 2017 3:08 PM - Lazybum: i like how it says april 2nd 2017 though, is this a future post?
    Jan 8, 2017 3:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flasche i know which one you mean, but it works fine i think...then again, maybe, i still haven't formed my opinion on that
    Jan 8, 2017 7:36 PM - flasche: i just think it will be easier for people to find their way down from the roof
    Jan 8, 2017 9:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: How about signs that indicate a staircase
    Jan 8, 2017 9:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and other similar features
    Jan 8, 2017 10:26 PM - CRITAWAKETS: 30+ players on the NUBs server right now
     
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    Jan 9, 2017 7:58 AM - CRITAWAKETS: DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE LIVES FREE
    Jan 9, 2017 7:58 AM - CRITAWAKETS: YOU ARE A PIRATE
    Jan 9, 2017 8:37 AM - flasche: yarr harr fiddle dee dee
    Jan 9, 2017 8:37 AM - flasche: being a pirate is alright with me
    Jan 9, 2017 8:38 AM - flasche: do what you want cause a pirate is free
    Jan 9, 2017 8:38 AM - flasche: you are a pirate
    Jan 9, 2017 8:38 AM - flasche: damn you critawakets
    Jan 9, 2017 8:38 AM - flasche: ^^
    Jan 9, 2017 7:19 PM - Ranger: yay it's snowing finally!!
    Jan 9, 2017 9:20 PM - A-z-K: fuck snow
    Jan 9, 2017 9:21 PM - Kidpaler: http://www.strawpoll.me/12070865
    Jan 9, 2017 9:22 PM - Kidpaler: Wow I butchered that title with capitalization.
    Jan 9, 2017 10:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: Wow you guys seriously play with bloom and motion blur? That'd explain a few things
    Jan 9, 2017 11:07 PM - Lazybum: I dunno how they do that, hdr is broke on a few maps I think
    Jan 9, 2017 11:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bqzjz48224td55v/Screenshot 2017-01-10 00.24.45.png?dl=0
    Jan 9, 2017 11:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: coming to a nuclear near you
    Jan 9, 2017 11:48 PM - A-z-K: that better be part of some obscure easter egg
    Jan 9, 2017 11:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm sorry it's only part of the final flag
    Jan 9, 2017 11:55 PM - VulcanStorm: Does it move? Can I shoot it?
    Jan 9, 2017 11:57 PM - VulcanStorm: And is that the power plant to go with the nuclear?
    Jan 10, 2017 12:06 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: I AM ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SURE IT WON'T BUDGE
    Jan 10, 2017 12:07 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and block movement.
    Jan 10, 2017 12:07 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's from the control room, i retextured it (still initially) and changed the windows to be more detailed than just a glass brush (also initially)
     
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    Jan 10, 2017 7:46 AM - Z100000M: What youre playing without blur and hdr like valve intented you to? It makes you see better so youre a cheater
    Jan 10, 2017 10:03 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: are you still comparing removing vision obscuring particles from the game's files to changing graphical oprions in the main menu?
    Jan 10, 2017 11:55 AM - Z100000M: am i comparing removing bision obstructing option to changing vision obstructing particles? yes i am
    Jan 10, 2017 12:14 PM - flasche: i totally hate how materials obscure my vision so i add $alpha 0.5 to all materials
    Jan 10, 2017 12:15 PM - flasche: :3
    Jan 10, 2017 12:17 PM - flasche: does pure finally work btw?
    Jan 10, 2017 12:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and while we're at it, a quick tweak to have all models bright red/blue to further enhance visibility, since it's apparently all the same
    Jan 10, 2017 12:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: of course pure doesn't work
    Jan 10, 2017 12:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: requesting pure white mine textures to improve vision
    Jan 10, 2017 12:30 PM - flasche: I prwfer neon green amd purple, they contrast better
    Jan 10, 2017 12:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that sounds good too
    Jan 10, 2017 4:47 PM - flasche: i never realized there is an empires forum on steam aswell Oo
    Jan 10, 2017 5:04 PM - Xyaminou: if you think Empiresmod.com forum is bad you'll be shocked at steam's forum
    Jan 10, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: out here it's mostly contained in the feedback
    Jan 10, 2017 5:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: whaaat? That place looks actually moderated unlike over here
    Jan 10, 2017 6:14 PM - Paradox: lol? Steams forums are a shit hole of 12 year olds
    Jan 10, 2017 6:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the discussions there go much more civil unless JGF gets involved so i'll take that as an improvement
    Jan 10, 2017 6:23 PM - Paradox: tbh though all I know of steam forums is their support, and that place is a stnking hot mess
    Jan 10, 2017 6:58 PM - flasche: well i read a few threads when i found it, aside of nekos negativity i didnt notice anything particualary bad - but maybe this place here just hardend me to a point where i dont notice such things anymore?
    Jan 10, 2017 8:20 PM - Kidpaler: Steam forums actually are pretty positive about this game...
    Jan 10, 2017 8:20 PM - Kidpaler: At least, from what I saw.
    Jan 10, 2017 8:32 PM - Kidpaler: Idk what I did, but I got my compile times from 40 minutes to 5 minutes for my map.
    Jan 10, 2017 9:12 PM - CRITAWAKETS: root beer and then strawberry lemonade gatorade tastes horrible
    Jan 10, 2017 9:34 PM - Lazybum: orange juice and hard cider tastes magical
     
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    Jan 11, 2017 at 9:01 AM - Ranger: Lighting affects compliling the most.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 9:03 AM - Ranger: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=231279328f9d45d1633586ab2a059ce3&oe=591FF50E
    Jan 11, 2017 at 9:03 AM - Ranger: kill me
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:00 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: In case of our maps, which max out the grid limit, unoptimised visleaf compiling affects it the most
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:01 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that being said on smaller maps like nuclear it is indeed the lighting that takes the longest
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:02 AM - flasche: i remember compiling before func_viscluster got available. we met in IRC to do distributed compiles for some maps lol
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:06 AM - flasche: too bad we never got it to work for vrad, thatd still be helpful today
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:22 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 7 hours to compile old SOF on a current-gen i7 hyyype
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 AM - flasche: wow
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:25 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and then varbles happened and i bet now it takes closer to 30 minutes
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 AM - flasche: that 7h is for a full compile?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 AM - flasche: or just vrad alone?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 AM - flasche: but the funniest part is, modern engines have nicer dynamic shadows which need no compile at all.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:31 AM - flasche: tho baking lightmass in ue4 will also take its time
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:33 AM - flasche: btw destroyer, concerning your monitors. every time i even think about exporting them i get frustrated and postpone it. i have no sample .qc file anymore since i forgot to backup my empires-models folder when i switched to w10
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:34 AM - flasche: but sigh, i should finally be doing it :(
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:04 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: full compile
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:04 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also i just pushed the subdivide displacements button and hammer froze so yay me
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:15 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: maybe smithy can help with that
    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:38 PM - flasche: thats normal
    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:38 PM - flasche: depending on how many subdivs you divide it can free for quite a while
    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:38 PM - flasche: usually it recovers again
    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:38 PM - flasche: i once subdivided a whole map, it took a few hours
    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:40 PM - flasche: freeze*
    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:41 PM - flasche: and i mean "depending on how many disps you subdivide" <.<
    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:42 PM - flasche: the only way to check if its really crashed or if just the gui froze is to check if ram goes up in process explorer
    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:45 PM - flasche: but you can also only subdivide a bunch of disps at a time. this requires you to make "rim-displacements" tho so it keeps folowing the shape and doesnt generate pointy edges. just try it out, youll figure what i meant
    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh nono i know what happened, it's just another minor annoyance onto the pile of problems that is hammer
    Jan 11, 2017 at 1:03 PM - Ranger: What if you are dragonborn but you just don't know it yet?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 1:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: trust me i think i'd notice the scales
    Jan 11, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Lazybum: I don't think dragonborns had scales?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 4:10 PM - Lazybum: or we talking about dnd dragonborns?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 4:20 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i automatically assumed dnd
    Jan 11, 2017 at 4:29 PM - Kidpaler: https://streamable.com/h9zxv
    Jan 11, 2017 at 4:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: full-compiling emp_iceberg_a2, with all issues addressed
    Jan 11, 2017 at 4:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: wow okay that was pretty fast
    Jan 11, 2017 at 5:41 PM - Kidpaler: It's a pretty basic map isn't it?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 5:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah but still, 2 minute compile
    Jan 11, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Kidpaler: Destroyer, we gotta write the script for the tank scene
    Jan 11, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Kidpaler: I have storyboard up to Infantry part done
    Jan 11, 2017 at 5:50 PM - Kidpaler: Very... Very crudely drawn....
    Jan 11, 2017 at 6:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: errrr
    Jan 11, 2017 at 6:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'll go ahead and say yes
    Jan 11, 2017 at 6:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/apehrv85sj923hs/Screenshot 2017-01-11 19.36.54.png?dl=0
    Jan 11, 2017 at 6:57 PM - Kidpaler: Looks absolutely terrible, you should delete the map and never touch Hammer again.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 6:57 PM - Kidpaler: JK, looks good.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:00 PM - Kidpaler: How many tank weapons are there in Empires? Can someone count it up?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:01 PM - Smithy: 3
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:01 PM - Smithy: missile, shell and mg
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:01 PM - flasche: all in all? cns mls and mgs?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:02 PM - Kidpaler: I meant Cannons, Ml's, and MG's
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:02 PM - flasche: is there an t3 version of every weapon now?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:02 PM - Smithy: why?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:02 PM - Smithy: they all act the same
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:02 PM - Kidpaler: Doing a storyboard for the trailer and I want to highlight all the different weapon choices during the tnak scene
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:02 PM - Kidpaler: tank*
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM - Kidpaler: They may act the same, but they are still different. Gotta highlight the small things to make it more appealing
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM - flasche: its aproximately 5 per tree, mechanical excluded
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM - flasche: maybe 6 per tree
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM - flasche: just say over 9000
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM - flasche: ^^
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:04 PM - Kidpaler: Well... how many different combinations are possible depending on cannons + Mls+ armor + engine + MG
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:04 PM - Kidpaler: We might be able to say something ridiculous there...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:05 PM - flasche: 26 in the last version before security added new ones
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:05 PM - flasche: https://wiki.empiresmod.com/Vehicle_Weapon_Appendix
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:05 PM - Kidpaler: Okay... and there is a 3 slot for each cannon and ML now, along with the new 2 slot rail
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:05 PM - Kidpaler: Is there a 3 slot HEMG, plasma, and Bio now?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:05 PM - flasche: just say over 30
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:06 PM - flasche: or more than 30 - thats impressive enough
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:06 PM - Kidpaler: 30+ different tank weapons... got it
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:06 PM - flasche: i doubt anyone will count them so if its "only" 29 who will notice
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:07 PM - Kidpaler: Well, if it's anything like this forum, someone will notice the smallest inconsistency or mistake and call it out.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:07 PM - flasche: well you can research complete and count them ingame
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:08 PM - flasche: emp_sv_research_complete 1
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Kidpaler: Yea... too much work. 30+ it is.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:09 PM - Kidpaler: Alright. I have the drawings done. Too bad they may be uninterpretable, but they are done.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:10 PM - Kidpaler: That only took... hours.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:11 PM - Kidpaler: Hopefully Thexa can interpret my crude drawings, get a video made, then hopefully Assquatch can get the music in, we can get the sounds in the video, then bam. New trailer.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:11 PM - flasche: Kidpaler: Well... how many different combinations are possible depending on cannons + Mls+ armor + engine + MG
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:12 PM - flasche: concerning this, if you consider the "not-sane" combinations aswell its billions
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Kidpaler: Yea... that number might seem unrealistic... but its big. Bigger = Better.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Kidpaler: The more shocking a number is, the more people will be like "NO way, I have to see this"
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:14 PM - flasche: realistically its more like 10 :P
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Kidpaler: Even more realistically, its like 3 for good combinations
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:14 PM - flasche: and during a round maybe 3-4 per chassis
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:16 PM - Kidpaler: Yea but, we aren't lying... just... stretching the truth. A lot.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:17 PM - VulcanStorm: mention the total number of weapon choices
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:17 PM - VulcanStorm: then the max. combinations available on a heavy tank
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Kidpaler: Well, for the trailer we are trying to pack action into it and avoid walls of text
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Kidpaler: Gotta keep their interest, not make them read a book. So thats why I want 1 shocking number
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:18 PM - VulcanStorm: over 30 different weapons...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Kidpaler: Yea thats one of them
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:19 PM - VulcanStorm: 11 cannons in total?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:19 PM - VulcanStorm: standard + 2*( ranged, bio, he, plasma, rails)
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:20 PM - VulcanStorm: standard + nukes + 2*(bio, uml, salvo, guided, homing)
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:20 PM - VulcanStorm: so that's 12 missiles?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Kidpaler: Ye
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:21 PM - VulcanStorm: as for mgs...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:21 PM - Kidpaler: std, cg, mcg, 2* (Plasma, Bio, HEMG, Du, 50cal)
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:21 PM - Kidpaler: I think
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:21 PM - VulcanStorm: standard + 2*(chaingun, he, du, bio, 50cal, plasma)
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:22 PM - VulcanStorm: so that's 13 i make it?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:22 PM - VulcanStorm: Sgt. Security?... Can we have a 3 slot chain gun pls?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:22 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, so... 36 different weapons?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:22 PM - Kidpaler: Can we bump that number up past 40? that'd be great.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:22 PM - VulcanStorm: arty
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - VulcanStorm: grenade launchers
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - VulcanStorm: that'll boost it over
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - Kidpaler: Ahhh right
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - VulcanStorm: 2 grenade launchers
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - Kidpaler: UGL, gl, 4 arty cannons
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - Kidpaler: WE HIT 40!
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - VulcanStorm: small, medium, ranged, he arty
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - VulcanStorm: so 40 different vehicle weapons
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - Kidpaler: Can we get that number past 50? That'd be great.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM - VulcanStorm: pfff.... that's pushing it
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM - Kidpaler: Well, when the TD gets added...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM - Kidpaler: It will be past 50 I think
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM - VulcanStorm: but its not just weapons on a vehicle
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM - VulcanStorm: there's armour
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM - VulcanStorm: and engines
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, but thats not as cool sounding as weapons
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM - VulcanStorm: but for number of tank combinations?!?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:24 PM - Kidpaler: While it is a major feature in Empires, gotta go with what sounds cooler while advertising. People care about customizing weapons
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:25 PM - Kidpaler: ALl I know is, its a shit ton
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:25 PM - VulcanStorm: over 50 different customisable tank parts
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:25 PM - Kidpaler: compo, regen, capacitive, abs, reactive, deflective, std
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:25 PM - VulcanStorm: that's 7...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:25 PM - Kidpaler: std engine, adv coolant, bio diesel, gas turbine, 3 phase, reactor
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:26 PM - VulcanStorm: add 6
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:26 PM - VulcanStorm: so another 13
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:26 PM - VulcanStorm: 53 different vehicle options across all the tanks
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:26 PM - Kidpaler: WE HIT 55 CUSTOMIZABLE TANK PARTS
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:26 PM - VulcanStorm: 53, not 55...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:26 PM - VulcanStorm: but its over 50
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:27 PM - Kidpaler: 55 isnt it? cause 36 normal wepaons, 4 arty, 2 grenade for APC, then 6 engines, 7 armors
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:27 PM - flasche: and all combinations of those
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:27 PM - VulcanStorm: oh yeah...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:27 PM - flasche: thousands
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:27 PM - VulcanStorm: yup
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM - Kidpaler: * 5 chassis
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and remember different chassis etc
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM - flasche: and thats not even exaggerated
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM - Kidpaler: Arty, APC, AFV/LT, med, heavy,
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....and about 5 customisations for each are meta
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM - VulcanStorm: is the qc file i posted useful flasche?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM - flasche: it will be
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM - Kidpaler: Yea! The unique combination of deflective armor adv coolant engine 50 cal heavy.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM - flasche: thanks
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - VulcanStorm: we just need to break the meta then DDD!
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - VulcanStorm: i still think a plasma rush is strong...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - VulcanStorm: i don't see it often
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - Kidpaler: How do you break that which can not be broken?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i've been sitting on the edge of the meta for a long time now
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: warcube NF med ftw
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - VulcanStorm: warcube?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 60 weight cannon + anti vehicle MG + salvo ml + light engine so you can get 16~ plates
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - VulcanStorm: what loadout is that?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:29 PM - Kidpaler: I found the most efficient NF med is abs, Bioml, DU mg, HE cannon with fission engine. Can easily kill BE heavies.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM - VulcanStorm: ah
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ^ that loadout is pretty close to what i consider spot on
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM - flasche: Become the WARCUBE. Crush your enemies, siege castles, and bring glory to your six-sided self! These cubes were made for battle, not building.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM - flasche: http://store.steampowered.com/app/505060
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM - flasche: hahaha
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: flasche,
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yeah i was about to say.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM - Kidpaler: Time to stop development. That game has the warcube already spot on.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i used to like the BE med with that setup more back when salvo ml was 50 weight because you could do 14 plates total and thatw as very scary
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM - Kidpaler: BE med doesn't compare to the NF med
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 8-9 seconds to kill a full reactive heavy
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM - Kidpaler: NF med can take out BE heavies easily because BE heavies can't carry shit
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you got the jump on an enemy they were dead
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM - VulcanStorm: the heavy tanks need more max weight...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM - Kidpaler: You want dual slot cannon with an MG? NO ARMOR FOR YOU
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nowadays something has changed and BE meds just don't hold up as well, NF meds are still A++ though
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 2x ranged + anti vehicle MG still gives you 18 plates or 6/4/4/4
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:33 PM - Kidpaler: NF meds rape. To be fair, I wish all tanks performed like the NF med so they all felt deadly.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:33 PM - VulcanStorm: BE heavies are very effective though
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:33 PM - VulcanStorm: you just gotta increase the max weight then
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:33 PM - Kidpaler: If all tanks performed like the NF med, this game would be golden. It would be risky as hell to rush into an enemies baser.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:33 PM - Kidpaler: Because tanks would be much dealdier
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:33 PM - VulcanStorm: let the tanks carry heavier guns without scrapping armour
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:34 PM - VulcanStorm: people will most of the time take armour over weapons...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:34 PM - Kidpaler: Which results in piss poor matches of firing shells at each other from far away until you both retreat to heal
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM - VulcanStorm: I think there might be a psychological effect from the heavy tank armour
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the thing is, the current meta works in such a way that you can't do more weapons because you have to be able to 1v1
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and that's not gonna change anytime soon
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but if it were to change, you could play more defensively and pack more long-range heat
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: kinda like an arty i guess
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM - Kidpaler: I say we move to a system like RO2. You're hit? Most likely dead.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM - VulcanStorm: like, if you get a heavy tank, you WANT to use the extra armour space compared to a med tank.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: as i said
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:36 PM - Kidpaler: I love RO2 combat, if this were up to me gameplay would be entirely like that. Love tank combat in that game and I love infantry combat as well
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: current meta builds are 13 plates on a BE med vs 18 plates on a heavy
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:36 PM - VulcanStorm: If you run a heavy tank with <= the armour of a med tank... Then its just too squishy and it feels like you haven't made the best of the chassis.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: NF counterparts get a couple extra plates because of their bulkiness
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:36 PM - VulcanStorm: *ahem* and lack of steering
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes because you are forced into this way of thinking that you need to be the big scary frontliner
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:37 PM - Kidpaler: I usually run Dual 2 slot ER cannon with DU/Bio mg with 5 plates on front and 1 side, then 4 on rear and the other side
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:37 PM - Kidpaler: I will never use the 3 slot cannons because I see them as unviable at this point
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but in reality just getting dual heavy ranged and some other long range options to bobmard from the backlines could in theory work as well
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:37 PM - Kidpaler: I feel like I die quicker when I have the 3 slots
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:37 PM - VulcanStorm: The heavy tanks don't have the extra weight to take the heavier weapons...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i didn't use enough of them to form an opinion but i will FOR SURE opt for 3 slots
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:38 PM - VulcanStorm: They have to take the 2 slot ones to maintain armour advantage over the more agile med tanks
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: from what little i did, the extra firepower is worth it
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:38 PM - Kidpaler: The only 3 slot that I feel is worth it is HE
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: errr
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: please read what i wrote just a moment ago; there's 5+ plates of difference between meds and heavies already
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:39 PM - VulcanStorm: that depends
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:39 PM - VulcanStorm: on the loadout used.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:39 PM - VulcanStorm: none of the armours are less than 10 weight
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:39 PM - Kidpaler: I still destroy people with dual 2 slots and they use 3 slots. Again, the 3 slots just dont feel worth it to me
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:40 PM - VulcanStorm: so the 3 slot weapon costs an extra armour plate
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:40 PM - VulcanStorm: compared to the dual one
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: one plate for a fair bit of extra oomph
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:40 PM - VulcanStorm: 67 dmg vs 60 dmg?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:40 PM - VulcanStorm: it just doesn't feel like it...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also yes i destroy people with a medium just fine, that doesn't really mean 3 slot weapons are bad
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in pristine lab conditions it's next to nothing
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: frontline combat is far from pristine
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:41 PM - VulcanStorm: Personally, i don't feel the extra damage does anything significant
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i think the feeling will come with time
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:41 PM - VulcanStorm: perhaps
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:41 PM - VulcanStorm: maybe its the visual feedback
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: square off against a couple smarties and you'll appreciate/respect the stronger weapon
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:41 PM - Kidpaler: I do need to make 3 slot sounds to make them sound beefier
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:41 PM - VulcanStorm: with all the armour modifiers reducing damage
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:42 PM - Kidpaler: Maybe that is it as well, it just sounds as weak as the 2 slot
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:42 PM - Kidpaler: So your mind thinks weak
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:42 PM - VulcanStorm: what could be 60 damage, gets turned into 40, and 67 gets turned into 44...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:43 PM - VulcanStorm: so the loss of a whole plate of armour, for 4 more damage
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:43 PM - VulcanStorm: and more heat generated
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:43 PM - VulcanStorm: heavy tanks don't have a higher heat capacity than med or standard tanks
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they have faster cooling
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:43 PM - VulcanStorm: (i made the * 0.66 up btw, its not an actual resistance)
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:44 PM - VulcanStorm: do they?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and no matter how you slive it that's 10% extra damage
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:44 PM - VulcanStorm: i don't think so...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: for the cost of approximately 6-7% health total
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:44 PM - VulcanStorm: say you've got 5 plates right?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: well i'll take a shower now, you can go check the scripts to be sure but i'm fairly certain they do
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:44 PM - VulcanStorm: each plate is 20%
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: TOTAL
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you/your opponent doesn't rotate your tank this whole discussion is meaningless and 3-slots are superior since you both will have max plates on that one side
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and the higher damage will amount to at least one less shot required
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but, this is all about lab conditions and not actual gameplay, where this will pretty much never happen
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:48 PM - VulcanStorm: checked the scripts.... and from what i can tell, all engines of the same type have the same cooling
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:50 PM - VulcanStorm: so heavy tanks with coolant, cool just as fast as light tanks with coolant... that is probably what's making these new 3 slot weapons no better than the 2 slot...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:51 PM - VulcanStorm: or not... that one is infact different
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:52 PM - VulcanStorm: same heat output, but light tank cools at 9, whereas heavy tank cools at 11
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:52 PM - VulcanStorm: both give 5 heat when moving
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:52 PM - VulcanStorm: and 0 heat when stationary
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:54 PM - VulcanStorm: so engines do cool a bit faster, but its only by 1...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 10:59 PM - Xyaminou: yes there is very small difference between LT/AFVs engines and HTs engines
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:00 PM - Xyaminou: in the end it's all about the damage/HU
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya did you answer my steam pm i may have forgotten
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:00 PM - VulcanStorm: and the heat generation...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: also if you look at the engines you'll find 3-phase is far better than people think
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: yes that's what I mean by HU vulcan.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:01 PM - Xyaminou: yes Destroyer, I said yes.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:01 PM - VulcanStorm: take coolant: say you're at 100 heat, and with 9 dissipation... that's 100/9 cycles for the heat to go
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:02 PM - VulcanStorm: which is about 11
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:02 PM - VulcanStorm: 11 cycles for a light tank
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:02 PM - VulcanStorm: but for the heavy, it has now 11 heat dissipation
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:02 PM - VulcanStorm: so is 9 cycles
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: Yeah well like I always say, coolant leads to dead tanks because it's too slow.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:04 PM - Xyaminou: and if you're smart you're more often moving than not
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:05 PM - VulcanStorm: i'm wondering if the heavy-light tank difference is more noticeable for lower heat output engines
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:05 PM - Xyaminou: so assuming you're moving 2/3 of the time and if I remember the numbers correctly
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Xyaminou: 6x2+11/3 = 7.6 average cooling
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Xyaminou: whereas 3 phase
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Xyaminou: is something like
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:06 PM - Xyaminou: 5x2+6/3 = 5.3
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: so the only have like 2 cooling difference.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:07 PM - VulcanStorm: i'm looking at gas turbine now
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:07 PM - Xyaminou: but 3 phase is 50% faster than coolant
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:09 PM - VulcanStorm: light tank has 6 total heat dissipation when stationary, heavy tank has 8
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: actuall I'm wrong
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: 3 phase is 7x2+8
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: which is 7.3 average cooling
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:09 PM - Xyaminou: so 0.3 difference to coolant.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:10 PM - VulcanStorm: so to cool from max heat... 100/6 = 16 cycles for light tank, compared to 100/8 = 12.5 cycles for a heavy tank when stationary
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:10 PM - VulcanStorm: that's a more noticeable difference
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:10 PM - Xyaminou: so yeah, blah blah, maths, blah blah, 3 phase best engine in the game.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:11 PM - VulcanStorm: but when moving with gas, light tank only has 4 heat dissipation, heavy tank has 6
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:11 PM - VulcanStorm: so 100/4 = 25 cycles... 100/6 = 16.6 cycles
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:11 PM - VulcanStorm: now 25 cycles compared to 17 cycles is noticeable
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: why are you counting in cycles?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:12 PM - VulcanStorm: i'm unsure exactly how long a "cycle" is... but i don't think its a second...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: it's a second
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:12 PM - VulcanStorm: ah
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:12 PM - VulcanStorm: i was unsure if the rate was in seconds or not...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:12 PM - Xyaminou: "Heat Dissipation" "8" //amount of heat removed per second
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:13 PM - Xyaminou: unless the scripts are lying... you never know.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:13 PM - VulcanStorm: I can't read :|
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:13 PM - VulcanStorm: so 25 secs to cool compared to 17 secs to cool is noticeable?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:13 PM - VulcanStorm: but tbh... 11 secs to cool compared to 9 secs to cool?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:14 PM - VulcanStorm: that's not as noticeable in combat
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:14 PM - VulcanStorm: where it could take you 1 second to line up your next shot
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the amounts are different in combat, factor in not always accelerating and armor heat dissipation
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM - VulcanStorm: and with bigger weapons outputting more heat than smaller ones... when actually in combat, the heat dissipation feels almost the same between heavies and lights
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: so what's your point?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM - Xyaminou: are you saying the difference between LT and HT should be bigger?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM - VulcanStorm: no?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:16 PM - VulcanStorm: it was a tangent to a discussion about whether 3 slot weapons were worth it or not
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Xyaminou: well you just have to look at the damage/heat to find that out.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:16 PM - VulcanStorm: and then we were discussing med vs heavy
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Xyaminou: but in some cases, guided for example I noticed 2 slots have 4 ammo and 3 slots has 5.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Xyaminou: so definitely worth it.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:17 PM - VulcanStorm: but does it justify the armour plate loss and increased heat per shot?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that metric is not perfect though, it doesn't account for many things like time to output the damage and exposure times
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sure works for sieging and to a smaller extent 1v1s but that is not what these weapons are primarily going to be used for
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Xyaminou: having 5 missiles instead of 4? yes it definitely justifies losing 1 plate of armor.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:19 PM - VulcanStorm: but if you can only hit 4 because the enemy has moved out of sight?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: guided is a burst, so having 2 more missiles in that burst makes a HUGE difference.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:19 PM - VulcanStorm: then you're left with a clip of 1
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: so?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: this is just one scenario
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:19 PM - VulcanStorm: which means you either reload now and waste that 1 last shot...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:19 PM - Xyaminou: even if it happens 50% of the time
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: you're still left with another whole 50% where those 2 extra ammos can make a huge difference
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: whereas one plate of armor, really does not.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:20 PM - VulcanStorm: or you fire that 1 shot in the next combat and then have to wait for it to reload
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: well no, with guided you should never keep, always reload.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:20 PM - Xyaminou: like I said, burst.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:22 PM - VulcanStorm: so if you fire a burst of 4 with 2 slot (empty clip and no LOS), and fire a burst of 4 with 3 slot (no LOS)... Is the 3 slot worth it?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:22 PM - VulcanStorm: you're left with 1 shot remaining before you need to reload, whereas with the 2 slot you didn't...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:22 PM - Xyaminou: what you're asking makes no sense, you can't take a very specific situation and forget about the rest of them.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:23 PM - Xyaminou: so what if you have to reload? what's wrong with reloading?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:23 PM - VulcanStorm: not being able to fire, and wasting remaining ammo in the clip
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: you'd be reloading anyway with the 2-slots, you're not making any sense.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:24 PM - VulcanStorm: the advantage of the 3 slot was that 1 extra shot right?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:24 PM - VulcanStorm: having 5 instead of 4
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:24 PM - VulcanStorm: before reloading
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:24 PM - Xyaminou: yes
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: and maybe or maybe not the damage/heat, since I don't know the numbers
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:25 PM - VulcanStorm: so you've paid 1 armour plate for that upgrade
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Xyaminou: yes...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:25 PM - Señor_Awesome: 1 extra shot sounds worth it to me for guided
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - VulcanStorm: but if you don't use that 1 shot (factors outside your control)... Then was the upgrade worth it?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: ...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - VulcanStorm: should you not have taken the 2 slot, and got that extra armour plate instead
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: if this if that if I suddenly become paraplegic
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Señor_Awesome: If I don't use that 1 shot then I wait until I can
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: if jesus christ ressusitate
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Señor_Awesome: it will eventually pay off
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ressurects
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM - Xyaminou: you can't just say "if..." and ask if it's worth it it general
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:27 PM - Señor_Awesome: resuscitate
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i cant type ignore me
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: if you miss 100% of your shot is it worth it to have ammo?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: if you are sticky stunned is it worth it to even build tanks?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:27 PM - VulcanStorm: i was trying to find a reason why heavy tanks should take a 3 slot weapon instead of its 2 slot counterpart
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:27 PM - Xyaminou: if you ask stupid questions without taking into account the probabilities your scenarios have of happening, is it really worth answering the?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Señor_Awesome: The kill things faster factor
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: well I already gave you the reason.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: either it has better damage/heat
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: or more ammo in a burst weapon
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: or a better velocity
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: or better accuracy
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Señor_Awesome: the deader your enemies the less damage you take
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM - Xyaminou: if not... it's not.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: it's really pretty simple to determine a weapon's viability...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:29 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it performs laegely the same but hits harder
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:29 PM - Xyaminou: I don't know why people are struggling with it.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you can live with the largely then it's clearly superior
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM - VulcanStorm: the 3 slot ones generate more heat, which offsets the cooling "bonus" for the chassis
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM - Xyaminou: anyway, I'm hungry, so I'm done explaining the obvious.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: how often do you overhest
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM - VulcanStorm: ofetn...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM - VulcanStorm: *often
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: with heavies or with all tanks
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Señor_Awesome: with jeeps mostly
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:31 PM - VulcanStorm: all really...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:31 PM - Xyaminou: assuming an even match I'd say I reach maximum heat 90+% of the time before killing the enemy.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ....what the hell are you guys using
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Señor_Awesome: only standard or 3 phase
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i only overheat standard engines and my medium build
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM - VulcanStorm: shooting lots, and shooting fast
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM - Xyaminou: well that's with anything but absorbant
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:33 PM - VulcanStorm: if you're firing 2 or 3 weapons at once, the heat builds up fast
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:33 PM - VulcanStorm: its controllable when sitting back and cannon shelling
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:33 PM - Señor_Awesome: personally I bind all weapons to one key because that's efficiency so things heat up
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:34 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm gonna be that guy and say that heat needs to be managed just like mana, or a reverse rage
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:36 PM - VulcanStorm: its a matter of tank combat style?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:36 PM - VulcanStorm: in one style of tank combat, heat is fine, in the other, overheat happens.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: with that amount of heat generation i'm fairly certain a lot of hits miss which is dead heat
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:37 PM - VulcanStorm: its long range vs short range combat
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:37 PM - VulcanStorm: at long range, you can only really predict 1 weapon... cannon or missile or mg
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:37 PM - VulcanStorm: unless you're some kind of god
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: regardless of style, if you overheat, you gotta focus on improving the bang for your cooling buck
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:38 PM - VulcanStorm: so you don't fire as much, therefore heat is controlled, but there is a downside
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and i disagree, mg is hitscan, you can still aim at targets but it takes more juggling with your aim
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: a lot more.
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM - VulcanStorm: since you're at long range, the enemy can easily flee if injured, and also can turn around and reveal nice healthy armour plates
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM - VulcanStorm: so you don't kill the tank... often it ecapes
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM - VulcanStorm: *escapes
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the same applies to you
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM - VulcanStorm: and tank combat takes a long time to get the enemy down low enough so that they flee
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM - VulcanStorm: whereas in short range combat
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so to go back to what we started off with. more damage per shot is actually very beneficial and hardly brings any drawbacks
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:40 PM - VulcanStorm: not yet... you can easily fire cannon, mg and missile at the same time and hit with all 3 in close range
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:40 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in short range engagements its all about your accuracy, gotta manage the heat
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:40 PM - VulcanStorm: you're already close to the enemy, so can maneuvre around the enemy and hit that weak plate
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and now factor in teammates and other opponents and everything we discussed goes to shit
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM - VulcanStorm: thus killing the tank, or chase it if it tries to run away
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM - VulcanStorm: so tank combat is shorter, tanks die instead of run
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM - VulcanStorm: and in close range combat, you want to deal as much damage as fast as possible
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM - VulcanStorm: so as to kill him before he kills you
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:42 PM - VulcanStorm: but then overheat happens...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: all 1v1 considerations
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:42 PM - VulcanStorm: well in multiple tank fights, long range is normally what occurrs
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i can see your point and it has merit but it rarely is that simple
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:42 PM - VulcanStorm: because driving closer to kill them faster gets you killed first...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:43 PM - VulcanStorm: so in multiple tank fights, to prolong your life (and expensive tank), you sit back and shoot
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:44 PM - VulcanStorm: where in reality... sacrificing a teammates tank to draw fire, and all of you rushing close would kill far more of them than you
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:44 PM - VulcanStorm: and the fight would be over faster, and less prolonged
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:45 PM - VulcanStorm: but people value their expensive tank over the possibility that losing 1000 res and losing the enemy 2000
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: now we are just doing a lot of wishful thinking
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:45 PM - VulcanStorm: yeah
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:45 PM - VulcanStorm: players are selfish and will hold on to their tank as long as possible
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:46 PM - VulcanStorm: so long tank fights ensue
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:46 PM - VulcanStorm: with no-one dying because of long range
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: imo the big takeaway is, a healthy balance is key to the perfect combination, but achieving that is debatable and extremely diffixult with the lack off cooedination we exhibit nowadays
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:46 PM - VulcanStorm: yeah...
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:46 PM - VulcanStorm: i'm still not certain whether the 3 slot is any better than the 2 slot when it comes to fighting up close
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: in other words
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: we should do squadplay this saturday
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:47 PM - VulcanStorm: agreed. :D
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:48 PM - VulcanStorm: 3 slot beats 2 slot when fighting at range (you can dodge projectiles so avoid the damage that would have taken your sacrificed plate)
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the initial plan is to be free at around about 9 your time but this might change
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:48 PM - VulcanStorm: 9 gmt?
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i might have crippling post-exam depression or still be tied up in DnD but the plan is there
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 9PM UK time whatever that is gmt
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:49 PM - VulcanStorm: we're in line with utc at the moment
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:49 PM - VulcanStorm: so 9 utc
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nor helpful, I run off of the difference between you and me
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but it should be 9 pm
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:50 PM - VulcanStorm: 9PM UK time is 9PM UTC currently
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: im assuming im correct but its time to sleep so pardon me if i dont confirm
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:51 PM - VulcanStorm: as for 3 slot in close range... 2 slot and more armour is probably better, less heat, faster damage, more armour to use to escape
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i nedd my beauty sleep before a long day of nuclear medicine which is a subkect for some godawful reason
    Jan 11, 2017 at 11:51 PM - VulcanStorm: sounds fun
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:08 AM - Lazybum: I don't see how 3 slots is slower damage, I don't think the cycle time for anything has changed. Heat too, the 10% increase in damage only increased the heat by 10% too
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:09 AM - Lazybum: if anything it just means you'll do more damage in a shorter period of time
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:10 AM - Lazybum: I don't think the extra plate of armor will save you in a short range engagement, most people die with near full plates on 3 sides, sometimes 2 if they are getting hit by a second tank or mangaged to spin the tank a bit
     
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    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:08 AM - Sgt.Security: Took people literally 2 months to realize it's no longer HEMG masterrace.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:38 AM - Sgt.Security: 3-slot weapons? meh I can wait.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:30 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yup, meta in empires is very slow to develop
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:31 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: matches the mapping pace tbh
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:31 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: speaking of which, emp_iceberg_a2 test soon, i just have to make a new minimap
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:49 AM - Xyaminou: problem is not that it's slow, the problem is it takes me far less time than others and yet people never listen to me.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:49 AM - Xyaminou: makes Empires a real pain in the ass.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:50 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: certain parts of the gameplay are so deeply ingrained in incorrectness that it's extremely frustrating to deal with
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM - Xyaminou: hell most people still don't understand that 3-phase is the best engine right now.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM - Xyaminou: it's been for a long time really.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: prime example, healing teammates and the over-reliance on instant heals and revives
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'd agree on 3phase were it not 10 weight too heavy for my medium tank setup. Any other tank, yesyesyes though
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:52 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what i meant to say there is, people refuse to/don't realise they have to stop for 2-3 seconds to get back to full HP when an engineer is chasing after them
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it costs a fracture of the charge and yields as many skill points per health restored
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: "but it's faster to revive"
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:54 AM - Xyaminou: once upon a time healing upg was the meta...
    Jan 12, 2017 at 11:55 AM - Xyaminou: back when foxtrot was the best squad ever.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 12:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's still something i take for my frontline engineer build, works wonders on slaughtered if your teammates cooperate...
    Jan 12, 2017 at 12:53 PM - flasche: the problem with healing upgrade is that those headless chickens would need to stop running around aimlessly.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 12:54 PM - flasche: which we all know wont happen
    Jan 12, 2017 at 1:04 PM - Paradox: now the best squad is delta
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:13 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it honestly depends on who you're working with, some folks do, some folks need to be reminded that you are one of the few that know how to heal teammates, some will literally tell you that healign is a waste of time because revive is faster
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:25 PM - flasche: well it is faster true, but healting takes a lot less juice.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:25 PM - flasche: healing*
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:26 PM - flasche: i mean you can just run pass a body and revive it at an instant, you cant just run by someone healing them
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:27 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i forgot quotation marks
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:27 PM - flasche: but revive drains your calc dry. you can revive 2 people, then you have downtime, while with healing upgrade you could heal you whole team and still build something
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:28 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you don't need to tell me ^^
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:28 PM - flasche: its impressive - if only they stood still
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:28 PM - flasche: and thats why i only take revive unless its dickstrict and i dont play that map
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:29 PM - flasche: because i rather stare at a blank white wall, its less of a waste of time :P
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's self-contradictory though
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: players don't stop for healing and rely on being revived yet you don't take revive? Come on
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:34 PM - Kidpaler: District is one of the best maps...
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: nopenopeNOPE
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: turns into a stalemate at medium pop
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which only ends when the timer runs out
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and that timer is 45 minutes
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:37 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: so you're stuck there for half an hour or more on a map that is ideally used as a warmup/break between classic maps
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:38 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and the only gameplay you see is holding one end of an alleyway, which you can't push up reliably but also can't lose easily
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:38 PM - flasche: read again destroyer "i only take revive unless its dickstrict"
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:39 PM - flasche: because people run around like headless chickens
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay i read again and the fact that i didn't understand it the first (or third) time is worrying me
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:40 PM - flasche: on district, i often took heal because people cower behind cover
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:40 PM - flasche: on other maps i dont, i take revive
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:41 PM - flasche: because playing catch with half dead people is no fun under fire
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and now i'm cryptic too; i get it, it just took a few re-reads for some reason
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:52 PM - flasche: lol
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:54 PM - flasche: and yes district is meh. the emp map i like the least. closely followed by escort
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:56 PM - Paradox: district best map
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:56 PM - Paradox: lets not kid ourselfs
    Jan 12, 2017 at 2:59 PM - flasche: hmm i just ask myself what my fav empires map is
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: escort is just crazy imba
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:00 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and the favorite map is obviously nuclear, i mean come on
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it even has your button
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:01 PM - Kidpaler: District has unique gameplay. I wish there was more city combat maps that played like district but a bit more open
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:02 PM - Kidpaler: IE more routes to take other than a street
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:04 PM - Kidpaler: Like... going in the buildings and fighting between buildings would be good
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:06 PM - flasche: why play empires then?
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:07 PM - Kidpaler: Because I also like the many other aspects of this game. I just wish that Empires infantry maps weren't linear and a grind fest, they'd be more fun
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: urban maps are a pain to make
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:09 PM - Kidpaler: Yea
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:09 PM - flasche: i have to admot the grindfest on district ia one of my oldest empires memories. back the i was impressed by how intense it felt. now after a few hundreds if not thousands rounds i cant think of much more unenjoyable than that
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:10 PM - Kidpaler: Ive played it far too much and I used to hate it, but recently I found it interesting again. Again, I wish it was a tad more open with more routes because that would make it more interesting, but it's still fun
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:12 PM - Kidpaler: It's fun till about 10v10
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:12 PM - Lazybum: east best inf map
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:12 PM - flasche: its better on euro servers
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:13 PM - Kidpaler: It would be if it was played anymore
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:13 PM - Lazybum: I feel like it gets seen enough, the difference is unlike several other inf maps east can end in 5 minutes
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:13 PM - Lazybum: :(
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:14 PM - Kidpaler: That and whenever I see it its usually only a 5v5 and you are just walking around aimlessly capping flags and running into people sometimes
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:14 PM - flasche: i really miss my low latency :(
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:14 PM - Lazybum: that's the problem with more open infantry maps, it's very easy for a side to just run around eachother capping flags
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:14 PM - Lazybum: I miss my high ping
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:14 PM - Kidpaler: I remember full matches on East, those were intense. Lots of routes to push.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Kidpaler: Well Lazy, I don't mean open like East. Take, for example, the map I'm trying to make. It's open, but linear cap. You aren't restricted to a small street, you can run around a forest to get behind enemy trench line, or push across no mans land
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Kidpaler: Plenty of cover, open, but also linear to keep combat located in an area
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:15 PM - Lazybum: I haven't seen the size of it, but it's not usually hard to sneak aorund people if it's like that
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Lazybum: or can you only cap linearly?
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Kidpaler: You can only cap linearly
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM - flasche: did yoz try the new colors already?
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Kidpaler: So sneaking around doesn't help anything really
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Lazybum: ah, alright then yea
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM - flasche: gosh i hate typing on my phone
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM - Lazybum: Well it can help push from behind, killing all those rev engies
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:17 PM - Kidpaler: Yea, its on the latest version. I have to fix some terrain issues and send it back to Dz to make the callable arty strikes and enterable bunker turrets
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:18 PM - Kidpaler: A4 will hopefully have a lot of the gimmicky stuff
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:18 PM - Kidpaler: Also, it will help to push from behind, but you cant cap behind someone elses flag so it wont be like Eastborough where you won't see people forever
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:39 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i see some americans complaining about lag already, i don't think they could possibly bear playing on a EU server where the euros can clean house even better
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:41 PM - Xyaminou: I miss having 10 ping on EPIC
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:41 PM - Xyaminou: made it so much easier to hit stuff
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:41 PM - Xyaminou: although as long as Empires runs on 33 TPS it'll still be a shitshow
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you should try hosting a listen server some time, it's actually insane how responsive empires can be
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: and how salty you can make everyone because they just can't compete with 0 ping
    Jan 12, 2017 at 3:58 PM - flasche: its most noticeabke when you try to cap the be cv on a camera. shit is virtually impossibru on viper/nubs
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:08 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's most noticeable when you play vs security because i keep getting shot around corners ash e's one of the few folks with their aim on point
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Neoony: I would actually perform so much worse, because of how used Iam to 110-150 ping in empires
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Neoony: I remember having that issue everytime I played on epic...if I only rarely played on it xD
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:34 PM - Neoony: takes long time to get used to it xD
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM - Neoony: epic was like 30ms to me
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i imagine it's quite different for mortars and grenades, but bullet based weapons are super responsive
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Sgt.Security: Neoony try with 350 ping where you have to duck for 0.35 sec before you can fire your mortar.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Sgt.Security: Then tell me high ping is better, it's not, it's just you are used to it.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Sgt.Security: Play with 50 ping for a month you'll be dat boss.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:46 PM - Neoony: just what I said xD
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: monthly reminder that empirescon is a thing that needs to happen
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Sgt.Security: I think I just reminded myself why I don't play Gren as often, because I think that's one of the few things that I can never overcome.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Lazybum: oh yeah, that's why I hated grenning on epic
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:49 PM - Lazybum: can't mortar with ping D:
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:50 PM - Lazybum: i don't know how euros do it
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:51 PM - Sgt.Security: Accuracy is not what bothers me, it's that annoying waiting time before you can fire.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:52 PM - Sgt.Security: your mortar.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:54 PM - Sgt.Security: It's one of the few things you PHYSICALLY can't do a shit about it.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:58 PM - Sgt.Security: Oh and just saying.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 4:59 PM - Sgt.Security: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22159878/未命名2.png
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM - Sgt.Security: People tend to not notice things they don't care.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:09 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: gonna need a hand to tedt snowbound fix tomorrow, any takers?
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:11 PM - Sgt.Security: Working on a report that I have to represent in 9 hours. Wit u fixing?
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:12 PM - Sgt.Security: What*
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:13 PM - Xyaminou: Testing is caring
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:14 PM - NekoBaron: good testers > quick lazy testers
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:15 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the gate logic which is apparebtly malfunctioning when buttons get spammed
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also i apc-proofed the nf base a bit, but you might still be able to wallclimb or something similar onto the walls
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:16 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: gotta check
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:16 PM - NekoBaron: Why dont you just make the gate based on who owns the spawn next to it
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what?
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:20 PM - NekoBaron: well, if you made it so when NF fully caps the inner flag, the gate opens, and only closed when BE fully caps it back. It cant be spammed then and gives BE more focus to recap the forward bunker.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:21 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh i see what you mean, i dont think that part of nuclear needs changing. i was talking about snowbound though
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:21 PM - NekoBaron: oh right, that map...
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:22 PM - NekoBaron: I would just redesign the bases, get rid of the gates, maybe add engineer buildable baricades. its stupid when the doors lock up and tanks end up driving up the cliffs anyway.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:25 PM - NekoBaron: Or get gud at hammer logic ents, relays and counters and such. Hard part is finding which part of the logic breaks.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:28 PM - NekoBaron: IE I would add a lil sprite ent (the ones used to look like where light is shining from but isnt light), make it change colour to show what state the buttons are in, would also help people time hitting the buttons together
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: creeper fixed tanks exploiting over the wall quite some time ago now
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:31 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but good call on the sprites, i will add them
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:32 PM - NekoBaron: I used to map a lot, Im not great on detail but I loved working on logic ents, puzzles and such, made some rather silly maps and I used the sprites a lot to show players what to press a lot.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:33 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i have a vague idea on what is causing the issue so i will try that for a fix
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM - NekoBaron: I could probably fix it or re make the logic, but never looked at the map, dont really like the map much when it ends with one team stuck in their base. I prefer more dynamic maps where the base can move.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - vipervicki: hey destroyer
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM - vipervicki: i havent put the server up for a few since eveyrone stopped laying but will if asked
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:45 PM - vipervicki: playing not laying :P
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay that makes sense, my january is looking a little grim right now
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:52 PM - vipervicki: np I can bring it up if antyone wants jsut felt it was silly keeping it up with no one playing anymore
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: true, true
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: right now i'm eyeing this: http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=206204
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: bit of a blast from the past for my relatives, we still have a small-time crew with ships and stuff on one of the oceans
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:53 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but this soft relaunch is looking very promising, so i'll probably try getting folks to try it with me and my cousin when that thing hits
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:54 PM - vipervicki: cool Ill take alook wurm was fun with us all playing I enjoyed it
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:54 PM - vipervicki: but first gotta get my chocolate fix brb
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's literally a bunch of pirate flavored puzzle minigames put together into a very long stsnding MMO
    Jan 12, 2017 at 5:57 PM - vipervicki: k
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:40 PM - Xyaminou: or you know, play a real game...
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: implying it's not real
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you gotta be good at those minigames man
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:43 PM - Paradox: dont think hes implying it, hes straight up telling you
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: MINIgames
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:45 PM - Xyaminou: enough said.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:48 PM - Xyaminou: just saying if you're going to go for games with persistence might as well go for some good ones.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: to each their own man, i'd at least look it up before delivering critique
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:51 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that being said it's not your type so i don't think it'd make a difference...it has its own charm,kind of like empires does for us
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:52 PM - Xyaminou: and lose a perfect opportunity to be arrogant?
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:52 PM - Xyaminou: gotta stay in character
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this isn't dnd dammit
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: speaking of which, everyone is initially confirmed
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:52 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: everyone but me that is >_>
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:52 PM - Xyaminou: cool
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:53 PM - Xyaminou: of course
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:53 PM - Xyaminou: Let's hope I get to use that fireball.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you have a fireball?
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:56 PM - Xyaminou: of course, I'm level 5, have you forgotten?
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:56 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: it's okay, the way i prep sessions you guys can't tell they're tailored for YOUR levels anyways
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:58 PM - Xyaminou: can't be surprised if we always expect to get our asses kicked ;)
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: okay look i'm not making them THAT hard
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: they just turn out that way
    Jan 12, 2017 at 6:59 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which really is quite okay given how hard certain folks minmax
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:00 PM - Xyaminou: Well I'm still alive so can't complain.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:01 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: winter festival is very close so i'll be as disappointed as everyone else when someone dies
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:02 PM - Xyaminou: I'll only be disappointed if he can't be used to win the festival.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: oh yeaaaah you guys haven't found anything fit for the contest
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:03 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this will be fun, i wonder how you'll go about that
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:05 PM - Xyaminou: I mean, I have, it's just all been refused.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:06 PM - Xyaminou: it's not my fault people won't try a bite of Orc
    Jan 12, 2017 at 7:12 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that's borderline unethical
    Jan 12, 2017 at 9:47 PM - Ranger: The other day I dreamed i dug too deep and I found a big cave under the mountain and three huge white fur trolls attacked us. We tried to escape, D was taking all the damage, they were playing with him like orcas play with seals before eating them. I was using my bow strangely.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 9:49 PM - Ranger: Today I dreamed we visited the northern forest after the desert again, and we encountered a huge wave of refugee coming towards us. Turns out dozens of trolls and hordes of orcs were after them, and set our village on fire and we all died.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 9:49 PM - Ranger: And I haven't played wurm for maybe 10 days.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 9:56 PM - Xyaminou: oO
    Jan 12, 2017 at 10:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you
    Jan 12, 2017 at 10:36 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: have weird dreams.
    Jan 12, 2017 at 10:42 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: but that just means you need to grind more FS
    Jan 13, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Xyaminou: By Tama on April 2, 2017
    Jan 13, 2017 at 12:53 AM - Xyaminou: uh... am I reading this incorrectly or has time travel been invented?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 1:11 AM - Kidpaler: Yea, when they were fixing the Empires Source Code they stumbled upon the secret to time travel, good thing they patched the bug though.
    Jan 13, 2017 at 1:56 AM - vipervicki: holy moly I found the black hole lol
    Jan 13, 2017 at 2:12 AM - vipervicki: lol also i jsut mistyped the main page and got this https://www.empiremods.com/
    Jan 13, 2017 at 2:42 AM - Xyaminou: lol hang gliders
    Jan 13, 2017 at 3:01 AM - complete_: emp_glider
     
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    Jan 13, 2017 5:46 AM - Señor_Awesome: I just wanna preorder the switch and go to bed is that so much to ask
    Jan 13, 2017 6:16 AM - flasche: that new mario64 looks kinda nice
    Jan 13, 2017 6:16 AM - flasche: but 300€ (probably more) for just one game?
    Jan 13, 2017 6:18 AM - flasche: yeh right, maybe 2, zelda certainly is nice aswell
    Jan 13, 2017 6:18 AM - Señor_Awesome: I know I'll eventually get at least 3 games on it. Mario, Zelda, and splatoon.
    Jan 13, 2017 6:18 AM - flasche: i have splatoon, we have a wii-u
    Jan 13, 2017 6:18 AM - flasche: played it once maybe
    Jan 13, 2017 6:19 AM - Señor_Awesome: splatoon was probably the best game on that console
    Jan 13, 2017 6:19 AM - flasche: i have not turned it on for like a year
    Jan 13, 2017 6:19 AM - flasche: we sometimes watch netflix on it
    Jan 13, 2017 6:19 AM - flasche: lol
    Jan 13, 2017 6:20 AM - Señor_Awesome: that's most people's experience with it
    Jan 13, 2017 6:20 AM - flasche: gf wanted it
    Jan 13, 2017 6:20 AM - flasche: cant argue with that
    Jan 13, 2017 6:21 AM - Señor_Awesome: between that and the 3ds they rereleased all the 3d zeldas with actual improvements
    Jan 13, 2017 6:22 AM - flasche: maybe we should invite more friends over and not sit infront of our computers all the time
    Jan 13, 2017 6:22 AM - Señor_Awesome: I have friends that I try to invite over all the time. Did you know young people are flaky, apparently?
    Jan 13, 2017 6:22 AM - Señor_Awesome: first it's 'sure thing' then it's 'oh wait I have to go get groceries'
    Jan 13, 2017 6:23 AM - flasche: that doesnt change with age
    Jan 13, 2017 6:23 AM - Señor_Awesome: maybe my friends don't like me
    Jan 13, 2017 6:23 AM - flasche: nah were the same
    Jan 13, 2017 6:23 AM - flasche: i blame the internets
    Jan 13, 2017 6:23 AM - flasche: and more or less free calling
    Jan 13, 2017 6:24 AM - Señor_Awesome: yeah...
    Jan 13, 2017 6:24 AM - Señor_Awesome: and the ability to still 'hang out' via the comfort of your bed
    Jan 13, 2017 6:24 AM - flasche: when i was 18 noone got mobiles and only a few had computers and even less with internets
    Jan 13, 2017 6:24 AM - flasche: we had to meet IRL
    Jan 13, 2017 6:25 AM - flasche: now everyone has steam and we also have our own TS server
    Jan 13, 2017 6:25 AM - flasche: no need to move our lazy asses
    Jan 13, 2017 6:25 AM - Señor_Awesome: what's even more infuriating is I know people with that mentality but who also refuse to get a headset (or microphone)
    Jan 13, 2017 6:26 AM - Señor_Awesome: so it's all text
    Jan 13, 2017 6:26 AM - flasche: eww
    Jan 13, 2017 6:26 AM - Señor_Awesome: then I feel like an asshole when I'm the only guy yelling whenever I get a smoker on me in left 4 dead or something
    Jan 13, 2017 6:28 AM - flasche: typing is so slow
    Jan 13, 2017 6:28 AM - flasche: and you cant do other things in the meantime
    Jan 13, 2017 6:30 AM - Señor_Awesome: yeah... also kind of feels like a disconnect sometimes
    Jan 13, 2017 6:31 AM - flasche: and you dont hear people screem in panic because theyre close to dying
    Jan 13, 2017 6:31 AM - flasche: which is half the fun
    Jan 13, 2017 6:31 AM - flasche: or cursing because they failed again
    Jan 13, 2017 6:31 AM - Señor_Awesome: the other half is doing nothing as they die, but making sure they know that it was totally in your power to do something about it
    Jan 13, 2017 6:32 AM - flasche: ^^
    Jan 13, 2017 6:33 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ZELDER HOIPE
    Jan 13, 2017 6:34 AM - Señor_Awesome: I've had that game pre-ordered for the Wii U since it's first announcement trailer... which was like 30 seconds long and 2 or 3 years ago. Now I gotta order it for the Switch -_-
    Jan 13, 2017 6:35 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i might actually get the switch if its in that price range, i was expecting a more expensive thing
    Jan 13, 2017 6:35 AM - flasche: i doubt it will be 300€ tho
    Jan 13, 2017 6:36 AM - flasche: more like 350-400
    Jan 13, 2017 6:37 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: at which point i might not
    Jan 13, 2017 7:59 AM - flasche: destroyer you still here?
    Jan 13, 2017 8:00 AM - flasche: what color do you want your monitors in?
    Jan 13, 2017 8:02 AM - flasche: also what to put on the displays?
    Jan 13, 2017 8:10 AM - flasche: display*
    Jan 13, 2017 8:15 AM - flasche: also what dimension you wanted?
    Jan 13, 2017 8:16 AM - flasche: noooo you cannot be not here now. for once i get my lazy ass up and do shit and i dont get answers ...
    Jan 13, 2017 8:16 AM - flasche: ^^
    Jan 13, 2017 8:41 AM - flasche: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/331067/4destroyer/monitor_small_test.PNG
    Jan 13, 2017 8:42 AM - flasche: its just a test, it needs plugs, but ill try if i can just add them with substance painter
    Jan 13, 2017 8:42 AM - flasche: and FFS this memebers online now thing doesnt work
    Jan 13, 2017 8:42 AM - flasche: members* lol
    Jan 13, 2017 8:43 AM - flasche: and i guess ports for plugs ...
    Jan 13, 2017 8:44 AM - flasche: also the texture is just B/W atm, you can have it in whatever color you liek
    Jan 13, 2017 8:45 AM - flasche: and ofc it can look more in mint condition or even less, thats just moving a slider
    Jan 13, 2017 9:07 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: I HAVE AN EXAM IN FIVE HOURD AND THEY JUST CSLLED OFF TWO OF THE CLASSES FOR TJAT EXAM ASFDFSDFDA
    Jan 13, 2017 9:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: also since its not mucj of a proboem can we start with mint condition black monitors with black screens? i dont have s plan for these just yet
    Jan 13, 2017 9:08 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: phone typing is hard btw
    Jan 13, 2017 9:11 AM - flasche: i was just kidding. when will you be available again?
    Jan 13, 2017 9:11 AM - flasche: 5h + a bit to get back home ... thats around 4pm my time?
    Jan 13, 2017 9:12 AM - flasche: ill be on on steam ...
    Jan 13, 2017 9:13 AM - flasche: oh well, the exam prolly takes some time too - so more like 6 my time :3
    Jan 13, 2017 10:12 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 5 pm our time at the earliest
    Jan 13, 2017 10:16 AM - flasche: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/331067/4destroyer/monitor_small_test_02.PNG
    Jan 13, 2017 10:18 AM - flasche: the thing with black is that it wont work due to how lighting works. if itd be PBR i would do it pitch black since it wont be pitch black afterwards
    Jan 13, 2017 10:18 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: yes i like
    Jan 13, 2017 10:18 AM - flasche: the textures can be edited easily thanks to substance designer
    Jan 13, 2017 10:20 AM - flasche: ill see if i can add ports for cables and stuff in painter - i have not used it since i bought it so it might be a huge failure aswell. well see
    Jan 13, 2017 10:25 AM - flasche: also ive set myself an alarm for 6pm to get on in steam in case im not.
    Jan 13, 2017 12:18 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: AAAA i just saw the new zelda trailer and i literally jumped in my seat and squealed
    Jan 13, 2017 12:19 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: what it showed is basically exactly what i want from my media consumption
    Jan 13, 2017 12:24 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: one thing i'm forgetting now, will that thing also run wii u games? Kinda want to play the Warriors games as well
    Jan 13, 2017 12:30 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i also just realised that there's going to be maybe 5 switches available across poland, given how wii u sold, so i'm not sure how to go about procuring one if i decided to bite
    Jan 13, 2017 2:05 PM - Señor_Awesome: doesn't matter, looks like it's gonna be hard to get in America too -_-
    Jan 13, 2017 2:10 PM - Señor_Awesome: I stayed up until bloody 1:30 my time checking amazon since that's my preferred place. Went to sleep cause why not, and it apparently went live at like 3am my time and sold out in <30 minutes based on comments
    Jan 13, 2017 2:10 PM - Señor_Awesome: oh yeah I forgot the shoutbox does that to times. 1 thirty and less than 30 minutes
    Jan 13, 2017 2:23 PM - Xyaminou: yes the shoutbox is fucking retarded
    Jan 13, 2017 2:23 PM - Xyaminou: also no I'm not gonna pay for Empires development.
    Jan 13, 2017 2:47 PM - vipervicki: viper nubs and epic servers cost thousands over the years..very few if any donations.
    Jan 13, 2017 2:54 PM - Xyaminou: so does living and I don't get any donations for that either.
    Jan 13, 2017 2:54 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i just obliged myself to a post exam beer someone tell flasche i will be late
    Jan 13, 2017 2:55 PM - Xyaminou: Hey Flasche, destroyer will be late
    Jan 13, 2017 2:56 PM - Xyaminou: you're welcome.
    Jan 13, 2017 3:08 PM - vipervicki: you lving doesnt give us anyhting for free :P
    Jan 13, 2017 3:08 PM - vipervicki: but glad u r living anyway
    Jan 13, 2017 3:42 PM - Lazybum: I look at it as buying one less donut a month
    Jan 13, 2017 3:43 PM - Lazybum: or something to that effect, a lot of tiny donations is just as nice as one big one I assume
    Jan 13, 2017 4:15 PM - Kidpaler: Hey, the goal is reached on Patreon. Now, perhaps, any extra can go to Advertising?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:16 PM - Kidpaler: Wait a second, this is the third time they have raised the goal from $1, $10, now $42.... At this rate, when will the full time development goal be made?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:21 PM - Lazybum: Those goals are for different things though.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:21 PM - VulcanStorm: yup. it says that.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:22 PM - Kidpaler: Yea I know, but since the goals keep increasing, how much is full time development?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:22 PM - VulcanStorm: You can't.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:22 PM - VulcanStorm: We aren't paid
    Jan 13, 2017 4:23 PM - VulcanStorm: Its there to pay for the things that the whole community benefits from
    Jan 13, 2017 4:23 PM - VulcanStorm: like the domain name
    Jan 13, 2017 4:23 PM - VulcanStorm: and the forums
    Jan 13, 2017 4:24 PM - VulcanStorm: previously, thexa4 was paying for all this...
    Jan 13, 2017 4:25 PM - Neoony: about time
    Jan 13, 2017 4:25 PM - Neoony: to make something like that
    Jan 13, 2017 4:25 PM - VulcanStorm: and more recently, our git server, and build servers
    Jan 13, 2017 4:25 PM - Kidpaler: No no, VUlcan, I think you misunderstand. I want a joke goal. Or they should increase the goal a bit to include some advertising
    Jan 13, 2017 4:26 PM - Neoony: now we just gotta hope the extra money wont be abused xD
    Jan 13, 2017 4:26 PM - Kidpaler: I think they said extra goes towards advertising
    Jan 13, 2017 4:26 PM - VulcanStorm: it could be, or whatever will benefit the game as a whole
    Jan 13, 2017 4:26 PM - VulcanStorm: advertising was one example
    Jan 13, 2017 4:27 PM - Neoony: to "say" is one thing xD
    Jan 13, 2017 4:28 PM - Neoony: Just kidding though...most current devs seem reasonable
    Jan 13, 2017 4:28 PM - Kidpaler: advertising would be a long payoff i think
    Jan 13, 2017 4:28 PM - VulcanStorm: well... if people are willing to make adverts, i'm sure we can get them put out there ;)
    Jan 13, 2017 4:28 PM - Kidpaler: there are some already
    Jan 13, 2017 4:28 PM - Neoony: Yeah, we had ad put up once
    Jan 13, 2017 4:29 PM - Neoony: for way too short though
    Jan 13, 2017 4:29 PM - Neoony: and god knows where was it aimed
    Jan 13, 2017 4:30 PM - Kidpaler: Ad pays off in the long run. Before one should be run, we should figure out what all draws us to this game, do some polls to figure out where to target it.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:30 PM - Neoony: also, Is there a way to check who is a patreon?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:30 PM - Kidpaler: Get more people interested, get more people into the community, get more patreon for more ads or more developers
    Jan 13, 2017 4:31 PM - Xyaminou: I'm just wondering why it hasn't been done before to be honest
    Jan 13, 2017 4:31 PM - Neoony: yeah
    Jan 13, 2017 4:32 PM - Xyaminou: most if not all mods I've ever played no matter what games they're based on have a patreon
    Jan 13, 2017 4:32 PM - Neoony: scared of the harsh community maybe xD
    Jan 13, 2017 4:32 PM - Neoony: but this seems done pretty well
    Jan 13, 2017 4:32 PM - Neoony: better than just simple donations
    Jan 13, 2017 4:32 PM - Xyaminou: Complex for Homeworld for example has a small community and still ends up paying all the bills necessary for a good development
    Jan 13, 2017 4:33 PM - Xyaminou: well that's just a terrible excuse, what's the worse that can happen? people don't donate.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:34 PM - Xyaminou: Anyway... now that it's done, add more goals, and advertise it.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:34 PM - Kidpaler: Exactly. But imagine if this game gets enough for ads and we figure out a group to target and the community grows. We ALL benefit from that and the good ole Empires comes back with many full servers
    Jan 13, 2017 4:34 PM - Kidpaler: WIll that happen. Probably not.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: You'd be surprised...
    Jan 13, 2017 4:36 PM - Neoony: oh, after posting a "post" on patreon, I can see who else is a patreon
    Jan 13, 2017 4:36 PM - Kidpaler: Well, I signed up to donate. If more do, thats more money to be spent improving the game even if its a $1.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:37 PM - Neoony: well mostly, this can secure empires even if the dev decided to not pay for it suddenly
    Jan 13, 2017 4:38 PM - Kidpaler: Not really. If Creeper decides to drop his server then were still kinda fucked. Not saying he is but just saying we aren't 100% in the clear.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:38 PM - Xyaminou: does that mean we can have a non-shitty forums now?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:39 PM - Neoony: then I would make a patreon for a dedi server :P
    Jan 13, 2017 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: do it
    Jan 13, 2017 4:40 PM - Neoony: but dedicated is like 70-80€ a month D:
    Jan 13, 2017 4:40 PM - Neoony: didnt find any shared server options for empires
    Jan 13, 2017 4:41 PM - Neoony: Although I know some hostings who were open to support shared servers for unknown games in a long time history
    Jan 13, 2017 4:42 PM - Neoony: not sure whats their standing on it now
    Jan 13, 2017 4:42 PM - Neoony: which would put it somewhere into 30-40€ range
    Jan 13, 2017 4:43 PM - Kidpaler: Well nonetheless, I wanna know how much it would be for advertisements and then they should make a goal with advertisements. ANd fill the patreon informattion up a bit more maybe
    Jan 13, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: anyway I still don't believe in Empires' development
    Jan 13, 2017 4:43 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: going back to a previous thing, a developer's annual cost in the west is somewhere around
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: 100k a year
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Paradox: xya can u take your xanax/zanax what ever anti depressants you have going there
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Paradox: and just like double the dose
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Paradox: so you can stfu already
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Neoony: ahahahahah
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Paradox: if you dont wanna pay dont
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: that covers his wage and program licenses and everything else they need to work
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Paradox: stop telling others to not pay
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Paradox: we know you a cheap ass shit
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Xyaminou: I didn't tell anyone not to pay
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Paradox: you dont have to justify being cheap as shit
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Paradox: telling others you dont believe in empires development
    Jan 13, 2017 4:44 PM - Paradox: is telling a voter that you dont believe in obama
    Jan 13, 2017 4:45 PM - Paradox: but hey dont let me not believeing in obama influence you
    Jan 13, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: so?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:45 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'd pay if i had steady income, as it stands i'm hesitant to do it
    Jan 13, 2017 4:45 PM - Paradox: how about you dont talk about you not believing in obama the first place
    Jan 13, 2017 4:45 PM - Paradox: cause it doesnt fucking matter what you believe
    Jan 13, 2017 4:45 PM - Paradox: if it helps keep this game running it helps
    Jan 13, 2017 4:45 PM - Paradox: noone is asking for your oppinion if empires development is a good cause or not
    Jan 13, 2017 4:45 PM - Xyaminou: so, no freedom of speech on here, got it.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:45 PM - Paradox: the developers are litterally coming to us
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Paradox: on their knees
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: thats a fallacy
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Paradox: pleeding for money
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Xyaminou: we're back to the old prohibition on the forums, nice
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Paradox: and you are like I dont believe in you guys
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Paradox: who the fuck cares
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Kidpaler: I chipped in a bit. If others chipped in $1-2 and everyone did it then that'd add up to quite a bit.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Paradox: if they come begging
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Paradox: Im going to give
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: freedom of speech means you take full responsibility for whatever you say, not that you csn freely say everything
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Paradox: Ive never seen any empires person beg for money
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Paradox: and they are right now so Im going to give it to them
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - Paradox: not because I "beleive"in empires development
    Jan 13, 2017 4:46 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: which means "spread shit, get shit" as senor once put it
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: but because I played this game for almost 10 years
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: and its worth the money
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: you payed for games before
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: its not because this game is free it doesnt deserve money
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: come on, you call that begging? >_>
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: you dont have to pay if you dont have any
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: and you dont have to pay if you do
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: but stfu about not believing in empires development to make up a shitty excuse not to pay
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - Xyaminou: I've payed for games whose development I believe in.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:47 PM - Paradox: cause thats just fucking disgusting to do
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Paradox: YOU PAY FOR GAMES TO SPEND YOUR FREE TIME
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: lol I don't need excuses not to pay
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Paradox: PLAYING IT INSTEAD OF JACKING OFF XYA
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Kidpaler: Paradox, pls no caps
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Paradox: PRETTY SURE YOU SPEND MORE TIME ON EMPIRES THEN ANY OTHER GAMES
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Paradox: DT STFU XYA IS PISSING ME OFF
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Xyaminou: hmm, wrong.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Neoony: I thought its paying for the game to stay alive...not development
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Paradox: HE PAYS FOR GAMES HE BELIEVES IN DEVELOPMENT? WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
    Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM - Paradox: NEXT THING HE SAYS IS HE PAYS FOR GAME FOR THE GREAT DETAIL IN GRASS ANIMATION
    Jan 13, 2017 4:49 PM - Xyaminou: I think I triggered paradox
    Jan 13, 2017 4:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the first two goals are basically "keep empires alive"
    Jan 13, 2017 4:49 PM - Xyaminou: And yeah the patreon may be to keep the game alive, which makes what Paradox is saying pointless.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:49 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the third goal is "make sure empires progresses instead of just existing"
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: because just existing isn't gonna cut it
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: because my "I don't believe in Empires development" was not related to the patreon at all.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm almost hurt by that
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Kidpaler: I just wanna say, if you have gotten thousands of hours of entertainment out of this game, like me, then I have no problem contributing. It's been free the entire time, I have gotten enjoyment, it's time to pay my fair share.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Neoony: which still wont help devs to put any more effort into it
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Kidpaler: I've paid $120 for Battlefield and its expansions and haven't played them nearly as much as Empires
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: but hey I'll just say, DONATE TO THE PATREON
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Xyaminou: see
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Paradox: NOONE NEEDS YOU TO SAY SHIT
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Kidpaler: So I feel like it's worth it to me.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Paradox: BUT SAYING YOU DONT BELIEVE IN EMPIRES DEVELOPMENT
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Paradox: AT THE SAME TIME
    Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM - Paradox: AS THAT THREAD
    Jan 13, 2017 4:51 PM - Paradox: MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE A FUCKING CHEAP ASS CUNT
    Jan 13, 2017 4:51 PM - Paradox: JUST SAYING
    Jan 13, 2017 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: so?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:51 PM - Paradox: Atleast own up to your mistake
    Jan 13, 2017 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: is that your entire point? 'cause I really couldn't care less that people think that.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: own up by doing what? admitting that I'm an arrogant cheap asshole?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:51 PM - Xyaminou: have you met me?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:52 PM - Paradox: Own up that you used a stupid excuse
    Jan 13, 2017 4:52 PM - Neoony: He is free to share his melancholic opinions, lol
    Jan 13, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: if anyone thinks I'm actually a nice person they clearly haven't met me.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:52 PM - Paradox: He can shove his melancholic opinions up his ass, he was using it as a pathetic excuse
    Jan 13, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: just because you think this is an excuse doesn't make it one.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:52 PM - Paradox: and now hes just deflecting
    Jan 13, 2017 4:52 PM - Paradox: aight
    Jan 13, 2017 4:52 PM - Xyaminou: you want a cheap ass excuse? I don't have a job, there.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Paradox: im out he aint gun admit to it and own up to his mistake
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Paradox: We know you a cheap ass, but my point is
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Paradox: you had to use an excuse
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Xyaminou: your point is invalid
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Paradox: noone needed you to use an excus enot to pay
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Paradox: to pay is your own choise
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Paradox: but putting out some shitty ass excuse
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Paradox: is worse
    Jan 13, 2017 4:53 PM - Paradox: Its like when my mom cooks food and I ate all the candy behind her back so Im full
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Xyaminou: you do realise, like, literally every day I say something like "all your ideas for Empires are stupid and devs don't have a single good idea"
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Paradox: instead of saying that
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Paradox: or saying im not hungry
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Xyaminou: but because I said it today
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Paradox: I go, hey mom your food sucks Im not going to eat it
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Xyaminou: you're fully triggered.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Paradox: grow some ballz
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Paradox: own up to it
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - vipervicki: yeah but no other devs ever asked for money and server owners dont ask for money.so I dont blame X
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Xyaminou: grow some brain
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Kidpaler: I don't blame X.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Paradox: Noone blames xya for not giving money
    Jan 13, 2017 4:54 PM - Paradox: Im blaming him for spouting out a stupid excuse
    Jan 13, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: you're obsessing
    Jan 13, 2017 4:55 PM - Paradox: yall dont get the point even with my great analogy
    Jan 13, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: you do that a lot it seems.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:55 PM - Neoony: lol
    Jan 13, 2017 4:55 PM - Xyaminou: yesterday it was over some noob, now it's over something just as meaningless.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:55 PM - vipervicki: no one shud be shame dinto giving money
    Jan 13, 2017 4:55 PM - vipervicki: shamed*
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - Paradox: Im not shaming him into giving money
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - Paradox: noone is getting the actual point here
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: if you think anyone can shame me into doing anything, you don't know me.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - Kidpaler: I see what you're saying paradox
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: this discussion is a solid 5/7
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - Paradox: Should I retype my analogy
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - Paradox: cause I thought it was pretty great
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - Xyaminou: lol
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - Kidpaler: Did you have popcorn while watching DDD or was it not at popcorn levels?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - vipervicki: im mroe refrring to your psot paradox
    Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM - vipervicki: about shaming people into doanting
    Jan 13, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: it's okay I'm bored, Empires drama is always entertaining
    Jan 13, 2017 4:57 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i just came home from a beer and a pizza is on its way so no popcorn
    Jan 13, 2017 4:57 PM - Paradox: Which post?
    Jan 13, 2017 4:57 PM - Paradox: ow that one
    Jan 13, 2017 4:57 PM - vipervicki: All u shits out there that have played this game for free all these years bettet do something now it really needs us. Dont be that fjcking bypasser thats looking at the unconscious guy on the floor walking by you fucks.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: what do you mean which post, it's pretty obvious which one she's referring to.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:57 PM - Paradox: I was overdramatizing there
    Jan 13, 2017 4:57 PM - Xyaminou: although it really doesn't matter at all
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Neoony: and connect that post to the one before it xD
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Neoony: just funny
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Paradox: to get across the point that empires is lying on the floor almost dead
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - vipervicki: well its tyring to shame people to donate copuld u imagine if i did that or trickster or thecreeper
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: and I doubt anyone on these forums do anything because of anything posted by other people.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Paradox: Id give u money
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Xyaminou: especially Paradox
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - vipervicki: true but jsut not the way to go
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Paradox: if anyone in the community that has actually put in real life skin
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Paradox: id help u guys out
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - vipervicki: u never did in almsot 6 years
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Paradox: noone asked for it
    Jan 13, 2017 4:58 PM - Paradox: like tama did
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: vicki there isn't good or bad
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - Paradox: just now
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - Neoony: oh wait, u shit edited that post
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: just people
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - vipervicki: i didnt think we had to explain dedi boxes arent free lol
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - vipervicki: but
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - Kidpaler: Well I mean, there isn't a clear "donate" button for Viper or NUBS that I recall
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - Xyaminou: everything is free if you have enough money.
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - vipervicki: did it cause i wanted to contribute and kept doing it without doantions i never expected anyone to doante
    Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM - Kidpaler: So it doesn't seem that there is an option to donate without jumping through a lot of hoops
    Jan 13, 2017 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: also most people who run Empires servers already had the server for their personal use
    Jan 13, 2017 5:00 PM - Paradox: I kinda just thought you and trickster had enough money otherwise you wouldve actually said something no? Also trickster is rich as fuck
    Jan 13, 2017 5:00 PM - vipervicki: not true x
    Jan 13, 2017 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: and running the Empires server on their machines cost practically 0 performance
    Jan 13, 2017 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: so it's more about time invested into it.
    Jan 13, 2017 5:00 PM - vipervicki: only thigns on my dedi which cost me 240 amonth for msot of the eyars was empires crap
    Jan 13, 2017 5:00 PM - vipervicki: years
    Jan 13, 2017 5:00 PM - Xyaminou: Well then you're doing it wrong.
    Jan 13, 2017 5:00 PM - vipervicki: then last 2 years i bargianed with my host and cut it in half
    Jan 13, 2017 5:01 PM - vipervicki: i had no use for anyhting on my dedi besides empires
    Jan 13, 2017 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: you don't buy a dedi server to run a single Empires server
    Jan 13, 2017 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: well like I said, you're doing it wrong.
    Jan 13, 2017 5:01 PM - vipervicki: i had 1 v1 main viper, practice server and scrim server
    Jan 13, 2017 5:01 PM - vipervicki: empires needs a core by itself
    Jan 13, 2017 5:01 PM - vipervicki: so cant really add too much
    Jan 13, 2017 5:01 PM - Xyaminou: lol big deal
    Jan 13, 2017 5:01 PM - Neoony: 240??
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - Paradox: I forgot xya had years of empires hosting experience under his belt
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - vipervicki: yeah
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - vipervicki: when i wa spart of g4tc it cost 240
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - Neoony: what kind of dedi was that?
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - Xyaminou: on a 240€ server you have like 8 cores 16 thread at leat
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - vipervicki: for my dedi
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - Xyaminou: Paradox please
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - vipervicki: usa is alot more expensive
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - Xyaminou: common sense, do you have it?
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - Paradox: I think I have more than you
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - vipervicki: then when i got stuck with the bill by msyelf i downgraded to duo 189
    Jan 13, 2017 5:02 PM - Xyaminou: sorry for being smart enough to figure things out...
    Jan 13, 2017 5:03 PM - vipervicki: then went bk up to quad dedi box but thye gave me a small discount
    Jan 13, 2017 5:03 PM - Paradox: Clearly not smart enough if you think theoretical knowledge supercedes practical
    Jan 13, 2017 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: lol yeah okay
    Jan 13, 2017 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: ask trickster, ask napalm
    Jan 13, 2017 5:03 PM - Xyaminou: ask anyone who knows what the fuck they were doing with their dedi
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - Xyaminou: Empires wasn't the only thing they were running on it by far
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - vipervicki: trickster ran all the empires stuff on his 1 dedi
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - vipervicki: svn
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - Xyaminou: just because you're pissed at me Paradox isn't a reason to suddenly become stupid and deny everything I say
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - vipervicki: giothub
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - vipervicki: rums
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - vipervicki: epic
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - vipervicki: forums
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - Paradox: Trickster ran a ts3 and a gmod server on it lol
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - Paradox: and occasionally his movie night
    Jan 13, 2017 5:04 PM - vipervicki: me i only had empires stuff and a ts
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: he ran tons more stuff you guys don't even know about
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: because that's what you do if you have a dedi
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: you use it
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Paradox: Lol
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - vipervicki: i had no more cores left
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Xyaminou: you don't just use 13% of the fucking performance
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Paradox: Thats such a donald trump argument
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - vipervicki: sicne empires needs its own
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Neoony: you could get a dedi and make a small shared server service
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Paradox: You guys have no clue, he actually ran a lot of things. A lot of important things.
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Neoony: for empires
    Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM - Paradox: Continue to not specify
    Jan 13, 2017 5:06 PM - Paradox: because you dont actually know if he ran more things or not
    Jan 13, 2017 5:06 PM - Xyaminou: like I said, ask him.
    Jan 13, 2017 5:06 PM - vipervicki: not sure why the devs now dont use a dedi for everyhting like trickster did
    Jan 13, 2017 5:06 PM - Paradox: You should go into politics
    Jan 13, 2017 5:06 PM - vipervicki: it shud save them moeny
    Jan 13, 2017 5:06 PM - vipervicki: in euro dedis are cheap compared to usa
    Jan 13, 2017 5:07 PM - Neoony: save? I mean it seems they are currently fine with 42$ a month
    Jan 13, 2017 5:07 PM - Xyaminou: this conversation has become boring
    Jan 13, 2017 5:07 PM - Neoony: dedi would cost like 100$
    Jan 13, 2017 5:07 PM - Paradox: yeah cause yer shit argument got rekt DT from F
    Jan 13, 2017 5:07 PM - Paradox: FR*
    Jan 13, 2017 5:07 PM - vipervicki: ifits all that costs them is 45 bucks thats dirt cheap hell iwish viper was that cheap lol
    Jan 13, 2017 5:08 PM - Neoony: well check the patreon goals
    Jan 13, 2017 5:08 PM - vipervicki: anyway people donate or not it up to each perosn no one shud get on someone who doeasnt want to
    Jan 13, 2017 5:08 PM - Neoony: seems thats all
    Jan 13, 2017 5:08 PM - Lazybum: chat going to fast, send me better eyes to read plz
    Jan 13, 2017 5:08 PM - vipervicki: lol lazy
    Jan 13, 2017 5:08 PM - Neoony: bad eye fps
    Jan 13, 2017 5:08 PM - Neoony: lul
    Jan 13, 2017 5:10 PM - vipervicki: trickster did paradox i know for a fact what he ran
    Jan 13, 2017 5:11 PM - vipervicki: but he had 8 cores i only had 4 and each one for deciated to an empires server
    Jan 13, 2017 5:11 PM - vipervicki: cant really put anyhting else on a core with empires
    Jan 13, 2017 5:12 PM - vipervicki: dedicated
    Jan 13, 2017 5:12 PM - vipervicki: his 8 cores was less money than my quad its so expensive in the states here
    Jan 13, 2017 5:16 PM - Xyaminou: so what you're saying is that you were paying way more just to have a better ping...
    Jan 13, 2017 5:17 PM - vipervicki: no I was paying way more to havea serve rin USA sicne epic was in euro
    Jan 13, 2017 5:17 PM - Thexa4: We use a dedi to host gitlab
    Jan 13, 2017 5:17 PM - vipervicki: maericans need a server too ya know
    Jan 13, 2017 5:17 PM - Thexa4: websites are hosted on a shared host
    Jan 13, 2017 5:17 PM - vipervicki: americans
    Jan 13, 2017 5:17 PM - Xyaminou: I don't actually vicki
    Jan 13, 2017 5:17 PM - Thexa4: if anyone needs a shared empires server send me a pm, I have something like that set up
    Jan 13, 2017 5:17 PM - Xyaminou: because there is currently no european server
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - Xyaminou: so I don't see why they actually need a server.
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - Neoony: hmm
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - Thexa4: my servers are european :)
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - Neoony: I was considering getting a shared server
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - vipervicki: dont u recall all the maoning on epic and epic on vioper
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - Neoony: but there were no options
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - vipervicki: shared server wont work well with empires
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - Xyaminou: so?
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - vipervicki: well at least it didnt years ago
    Jan 13, 2017 5:18 PM - Xyaminou: who gives a shit about people complaining
    Jan 13, 2017 5:19 PM - vipervicki: then no point having a server if u make people unhappy
    Jan 13, 2017 5:19 PM - Thexa4: it would be a VPS on a shared machine
    Jan 13, 2017 5:19 PM - vipervicki: viper was for the players not me
    Jan 13, 2017 5:19 PM - Xyaminou: people make themselves unhappy
    Jan 13, 2017 5:19 PM - Xyaminou: they don't need your help for that
    Jan 13, 2017 5:19 PM - Thexa4: not actual sharing in empires code
    Jan 13, 2017 5:19 PM - vipervicki: well having amsircans only playing with 100 plus pings was notmy idea of running a good server
    Jan 13, 2017 5:20 PM - Xyaminou: well hey it's your money to waste.
    Jan 13, 2017 5:20 PM - vipervicki: yup and I did waste it alot of it
    Jan 13, 2017 5:20 PM - vipervicki: not anymore tho i did my part
    Jan 13, 2017 5:20 PM - vipervicki: but msotly was happy to
    Jan 13, 2017 5:23 PM - Neoony: And I thank you :P
    Jan 13, 2017 5:24 PM - vipervicki: :)
    Jan 13, 2017 5:29 PM - vipervicki: i dont have a server anymore X nubs is not mine
    Jan 13, 2017 5:29 PM - vipervicki: epic shut down after I shut down viper
    Jan 13, 2017 5:34 PM - Paradox: the donation limit has already been reached thats nice!
    Jan 13, 2017 5:34 PM - Thexa4: It's not a limit :)
    Jan 13, 2017 5:35 PM - Thexa4: but this should cover our recurring costs
    Jan 13, 2017 5:35 PM - Paradox: "goal"
    Jan 13, 2017 5:35 PM - Paradox: also give us donator emojis
    Jan 13, 2017 5:35 PM - Paradox: I want some perks
    Jan 13, 2017 5:35 PM - Paradox: atleast fix my tittle :*
    Jan 13, 2017 5:35 PM - Thexa4: I understand you do but making perks would cost us quite a lot of time
    Jan 13, 2017 5:36 PM - Thexa4: What is the problem with your title?
    Jan 13, 2017 5:36 PM - Paradox: It ends on wo
    Jan 13, 2017 5:36 PM - Paradox: instead of work lol
    Jan 13, 2017 5:36 PM - Paradox: thats super frustrating
    Jan 13, 2017 5:36 PM - Paradox: With perks it can be small server things too. Like chat color, make in shoutbox have standard color and if you donate you get to choose color
    Jan 13, 2017 5:36 PM - Paradox: super small almost no work stuff
    Jan 13, 2017 5:37 PM - Paradox: just to incentivise,
    Jan 13, 2017 5:37 PM - Paradox: doesnt have to be ingame at al
    Jan 13, 2017 5:37 PM - Thexa4: The following error occurred: Please enter a value using 50 characters or fewer.
    Jan 13, 2017 5:37 PM - Paradox: fuck knew it was going to be that
    Jan 13, 2017 5:37 PM - Thexa4: those things are actually quite hard :P
    Jan 13, 2017 5:37 PM - Paradox: they are? :P
    Jan 13, 2017 5:37 PM - Paradox: Those things sound really easy hahaha
    Jan 13, 2017 5:39 PM - Kidpaler: it was whem i used to run a minecraft server and it wasnt hard for tf2
    Jan 13, 2017 5:39 PM - Thexa4: https://xkcd.com/1425/ :)
    Jan 13, 2017 5:39 PM - Kidpaler: wasnt*
    Jan 13, 2017 5:39 PM - Thexa4: I might be wrong
    Jan 13, 2017 5:40 PM - Lazybum: I think the tricky part is hooking up the donation system to that stuff right?
    Jan 13, 2017 5:40 PM - Paradox: why do you need to hook it up
    Jan 13, 2017 5:40 PM - Thexa4: that would probably be manual yes
    Jan 13, 2017 5:40 PM - Paradox: manually give members rights
    Jan 13, 2017 5:40 PM - Paradox: no?
    Jan 13, 2017 5:40 PM - Kidpaler: yea, when i was a community leader we just did it manually because no one wanted toautomate
    Jan 13, 2017 5:41 PM - Lazybum: oh, still it would be a bit annoying to see chat color not your team
    Jan 13, 2017 5:41 PM - Lazybum: you'd end up ignoring it thinking it wasn't someone from your team
    Jan 13, 2017 5:41 PM - Kidpaler: ^
    Jan 13, 2017 5:42 PM - Paradox: are you kidsd erp
    Jan 13, 2017 5:42 PM - Paradox: I mean on this forum chat
    Jan 13, 2017 5:42 PM - Paradox: like lazybum has a color
    Jan 13, 2017 5:42 PM - Paradox: i didnt mean ingame
    Jan 13, 2017 5:42 PM - Thexa4: That's on the bottom left of the chatbox, it doesn't have permission controls
    Jan 13, 2017 5:43 PM - Kidpaler: lel. paradix you noob
    Jan 13, 2017 5:43 PM - Paradox: I didnt know this shoutbox couldnt be controled by a forum god
    Jan 13, 2017 5:43 PM - Paradox: well
    Jan 13, 2017 5:43 PM - Paradox: GG then I suppose
    Jan 13, 2017 5:43 PM - Paradox: obnoxious pink, my favorite color
    Jan 13, 2017 5:44 PM - vipervicki: fushcia
    Jan 13, 2017 5:44 PM - Kidpaler: thexa, how much would cheap advertising be for this game?
    Jan 13, 2017 5:44 PM - Lazybum: 1 million peanuts
    Jan 13, 2017 5:44 PM - vipervicki: make anewsletter and mass mail it thats free
    Jan 13, 2017 5:44 PM - Paradox: where would you even adversite?
    Jan 13, 2017 5:44 PM - Lazybum: so the elephants can do an interpretive dance of empires
    Jan 13, 2017 5:45 PM - Lazybum: I remember dev trying to advertise on 4chan, he bought a banner ad
    Jan 13, 2017 5:45 PM - Lazybum: devo I mean
    Jan 13, 2017 5:45 PM - Kidpaler: devo did
    Jan 13, 2017 5:45 PM - Lazybum: I think the cheapest one lasted like 1 day, maybe 2
    Jan 13, 2017 5:45 PM - Tama: worked pretty well, we got a whole server full of channers
    Jan 13, 2017 5:45 PM - vipervicki: make a webpage on one of your web hostings and advertise it and make sure the seo is good to get u on first page of google
    Jan 13, 2017 5:45 PM - Lazybum: I know, someone get real famous then plug empires
    Jan 13, 2017 5:46 PM - Lazybum: that's guarteed to work
    Jan 13, 2017 5:46 PM - Kidpaler: tama, that was because of that 8chan post, not the 4chan ad
    Jan 13, 2017 5:46 PM - Paradox: advertise on reddit
    Jan 13, 2017 5:46 PM - vipervicki: lotta free ways to advertise
    Jan 13, 2017 5:46 PM - Paradox: you can buy your subreddit into frontpage
    Jan 13, 2017 5:46 PM - Kidpaler: there is actually free advertising on reddit... i sent specs to devo to make an ad
    Jan 13, 2017 5:46 PM - vipervicki: frontpage the html editor? thats defunct
    Jan 13, 2017 5:48 PM - Paradox: someone put up a billboard in downtown atlanta
    Jan 13, 2017 5:49 PM - vipervicki: try and get them to stay chain em to the game getting new people isnt hard getting them to stay is
    Jan 13, 2017 5:50 PM - vipervicki: thats where the real problem is
    Jan 13, 2017 5:50 PM - Paradox: we get a team of rough empires players to go down there
    Jan 13, 2017 5:50 PM - Paradox: and rough em up
    Jan 13, 2017 5:50 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 13, 2017 5:51 PM - Paradox: maybe some extortion
    Jan 13, 2017 5:51 PM - vipervicki: blackmail too
    Jan 13, 2017 5:51 PM - Kidpaler: Real problem is the tutorial is thr worst piece of garbage ive seen in any game. It desperately needs to be redone.
    Jan 13, 2017 5:51 PM - Xyaminou: aww paradox you so pink and cute
    Jan 13, 2017 5:51 PM - Paradox: I like your enthousiasm to handle this DT thanks
     
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    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:51 PM - vipervicki: damn X is flirting with paradox now ive seen everyhting
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:52 PM - vipervicki: but seriously we dont have a new player problem we have a stay player problem
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:52 PM - vipervicki: so wasting money on advertising isnt gonna fix that
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Paradox: I dont think people want to stay to play empires not because its hard to learn
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Paradox: or you get flamed
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Paradox: its the availability to play
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Kidpaler: New tutorial. One that explains what to do, how to make a tank. Basics of commanding etc.
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Paradox: Having to wait till the weekends to play
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Paradox: instead of whenever you want
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Paradox: is a real dealbreaker for me
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Paradox: in any game
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:53 PM - Kidpaler: Quite a few reviews say the "tutorial isnt helpful"
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM - Kidpaler: The most in depth part of the tutorial is basics to an fps shooter. How to jump, shoot etc... thats sad.
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM - vipervicki: fix the tutorial get destoryers videos more visiblity
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM - vipervicki: his video shud be linke don home page
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM - vipervicki: no new wud even know about them
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:55 PM - vipervicki: newb*
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:55 PM - Neoony: some simple organized short video tutorials implemented into game might be more helpful than normal ingame tutorial
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:55 PM - Paradox: I would love to make a tutorial but I litterally dont know how to record
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:55 PM - Paradox: Id explain the fuck out of how you own bitches in empires
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - vipervicki: concentrate on making the game moew neb friendly by giving them good tools to learn and more will stay providing the nasties keep their mouths shut
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Neoony: ugh, I can record...as long as you talk and prepare the tut
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Xyaminou: make a pink tutorial
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Xyaminou: with pink everywhere
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Paradox: hey now vicki stop targetting me
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - vipervicki: didnt have u in mind lol
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Paradox: Im up for it neoony
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Xyaminou: stop targetting me!
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM - Xyaminou: oh wait
    Jan 13, 2017 at 5:57 PM - vipervicki: hhaha
    Jan 13, 2017 at 6:01 PM - Neoony: well, then make some plan and I should be ready for it....I should get a small server in a bit where we could do it
    Jan 13, 2017 at 6:02 PM - Neoony: if you really really feel like it
    Jan 13, 2017 at 6:12 PM - Paradox: Ok, btw why are u like permannetly offline on steam
    Jan 13, 2017 at 6:56 PM - Kidpaler: No, not a recorded tutorial. The IN GAME tutorial needs a revamp.
    Jan 13, 2017 at 6:56 PM - Kidpaler: Videos only do so much, you need to actually get the feel of the game while learning for it to mean anything,
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:02 PM - Avatarix: we need to ban everyone who swears so more kids will play it and it will be super cool ^^
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:09 PM - Paradox: dt u aint gun stop us nigguh
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:11 PM - Kidpaler: Not trying to, just saying the overarching problem is the in game tutorial is the worst I have ever seen in any game ever
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:15 PM - Kidpaler: Avatarix, what the hell is up with your avatar. It's creepy.
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:16 PM - flasche: so its fitting isnt it? :P
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:17 PM - Kidpaler: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dirt-showdown-free-game Hey guys, Dirt Showdown is Free on Humble Bundle right now for PC
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:18 PM - Kidpaler: So... pick up a free game.
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:19 PM - Avatarix: it is creepy and don't even try googling where it's from
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:19 PM - Avatarix: keyword: MOTH
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:21 PM - Kidpaler: Moth man creepy pasta?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:26 PM - Avatarix: hell no, you dont see anime girls in it for sure
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:34 PM - Kidpaler: RIP Nintendo is charging for Online Multiplayer like Xbox and PS...
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:40 PM - VulcanStorm: Kidpaler, How many stands do you want in the barbed wire?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:40 PM - VulcanStorm: i've got 1 at each end so far, with a cross bar
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:40 PM - Kidpaler: Stands as in where the barbed wire is attached too?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:40 PM - VulcanStorm: as in those stake things in the picture
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:41 PM - VulcanStorm: the barbed wire isn't really "attached" so to speak
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:41 PM - VulcanStorm: but more like threaded round them
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:42 PM - Kidpaler: That's good, um.... Can you do like a short, medium, and long variation of the barbed wire? Short one having like 2-3, medium having more and long having a lot?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:42 PM - Kidpaler: Or do you have a pic for me to visualize it?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:42 PM - Kidpaler: I'm trying to think of scale how big the stands are compared to the barbed wire
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:43 PM - VulcanStorm: see that second picture
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:43 PM - VulcanStorm: that you posted
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:43 PM - VulcanStorm: its about that...
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:44 PM - Kidpaler: Okay, so the second one? Um. 3 of the stands for the small if that works
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:46 PM - VulcanStorm: ok
    Jan 13, 2017 at 7:48 PM - Avatarix: http://www.westernfrontassociation....m/87-barbed-wire-on.html#sthash.tHwfxe6g.dpbs
    Jan 13, 2017 at 8:58 PM - Neoony: hmm, now it shows only 3 patreons instead of 5, how it was...strange
    Jan 13, 2017 at 8:59 PM - Neoony: this makes no sense: https://i.gyazo.com/76fdbec0caf88e7af09d08b517ad03e5.png
    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:01 PM - Neoony: And its strange that I got to edit my post and confirm there, to see who is a patreon of empires, lol
    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:47 PM - Xyaminou: who the hell donated 2 cents
    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:47 PM - Xyaminou: .02
    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:48 PM - PwnedYoAss: HAHA. That's god damned amazing.
    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:49 PM - PwnedYoAss: Although it'd be a douche move to just donate 2 cents, I mean at least a dollar and two cents
    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:50 PM - Tama: I'm guessing, Neoony, that the 3 is those who have already paid, and the 7 are those signed up to pay on the 1st of the next month
    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:51 PM - Tama: but do feel free to send that as a bugreport to Patreon; it doesn't make much sense as it's written
    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:53 PM - Kidpaler: The button also reads "Pay to pledge" which doesn't make sense. Should be "Pledge to pay
    Jan 13, 2017 at 9:54 PM - Kidpaler: Well, it did
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:01 PM - vipervicki: do they take a fee out of the payment?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:01 PM - vipervicki: that cud explain the 2 cents
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:02 PM - vipervicki: payment minus fee= weird amount
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:08 PM - Paradox: ow fuck I shouldnt have linked my fb to patreon
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:10 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:10 PM - Ranger: I was just considering signing up with my Facebook
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:10 PM - Ranger: You think I shouldn't? D:
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:10 PM - vipervicki: dont sing up anyhting with your fb login
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:10 PM - vipervicki: sign
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:11 PM - Paradox: they can see my fb profile pic now and find me :o
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:11 PM - Paradox: neony how did you get to that pge where you can see who the contributors are, I Cant?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:11 PM - vipervicki: wooooo now ill donate jsut to find your profile LOL j/k
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:11 PM - Paradox: Im not too worried about old american ladies
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Paradox: jk
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - vipervicki: dont blame u I wusnt be either
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Paradox: Im scared to hell
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - vipervicki: nah i am old and i am american and am alady
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Paradox: you know what really grinds my gear
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - vipervicki: i earned every year of my age ima proud
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Paradox: you pay 25 percent taxes
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - vipervicki: what?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM - Paradox: on the contribution mfw
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - vipervicki: figured there was a fee
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Paradox: if we could circumvent that and just send you money over paypal it wouldve been way better
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - vipervicki: but the receiver shud pay it not the sender
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Paradox: like actually 10 times better
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - vipervicki: paypla takes out a fee too
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - flasche: vipervicki A moment ago - vipervicki: but the receiver shud pay it not the sender
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - flasche: isnt that the same?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - vipervicki: but not to friends and family yud have to choose that
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - vipervicki: no flasche my dear
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM - Paradox: Its not
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - flasche: because?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Paradox: if the sender knows money is getting taken out theyll give less like I did
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Ranger: Taxing donations wot?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - flasche: 25% of 100€ is 25€ no matter who pays it
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Paradox: If I didnt know there was going to be money taken out, I wouldve give more
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - vipervicki: becasue it coems out of your pocket
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Paradox: yeah but its better if you are ignorant
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - vipervicki: so i fu wanna pay 25
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - Paradox: ignorance is blyss
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - vipervicki: your not
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - flasche: it comes out of your pocket anyway?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - vipervicki: if u not fu lol
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM - vipervicki: nope
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:15 PM - vipervicki: if the seller pays it come sout of what he gets
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:15 PM - vipervicki: when my partners paid their share of dedi they wud always pay more to cover the fee
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:15 PM - vipervicki: so i dont have to pay more
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:16 PM - vipervicki: i didnt care but they were good gusy
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:16 PM - vipervicki: guys
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:16 PM - Neoony: wait, so there was an option to pay right now or pay on the 1st of the month?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:16 PM - vipervicki: im hungry
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:16 PM - Neoony: didnt see anything like that
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:16 PM - Ranger: stop taxing our donations
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:16 PM - flasche: i still dont get it
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:17 PM - Neoony: and it also took like an hour to register my pledge
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:17 PM - flasche: if i punch in 100€ and its 25% tax i pay 25€ right?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:17 PM - flasche: in tax i mean
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:17 PM - flasche: if i pay 100€ and the receipient pays 25% tax its 25€ payed form the same 100€
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:17 PM - flasche: its just a psychological difference
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - vipervicki: i can think of it in terms of pay pal
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Ranger: lol it wont let me sign in with facebook
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - vipervicki: no its not
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Paradox: neoony how did you get to the page where you could see everyone who payed
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - vipervicki: ok say u owe me 25.00
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - vipervicki: you pay me thru paypal 25
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Neoony: para you got to make a post in community and then edit it and confirm
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - vipervicki: i dont get 25 i get less
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Neoony: its absolutely fucking strange
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - vipervicki: so u have to pay 25 plus fee so i can get the whole 25
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - Neoony: the site is quite buggy for how popular it is
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM - vipervicki: anway im hugnry bbioaf gonna cook dinner
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:19 PM - flasche: thats true
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:19 PM - flasche: but that means you want the reciepient to receive a certain amount of money
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:19 PM - Ranger: neoony fix the site pl0x
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:19 PM - Paradox: still cant see it what evs
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:20 PM - flasche: if i want to donate 10€ its always 2.5€ less
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Neoony: ahah
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Neoony: uh?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:20 PM - flasche: for the receipient
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Neoony: wait I make pic tutorial, lol
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:20 PM - flasche: no matter who pays it
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:20 PM - Ranger: I always pay more when there's tax cause I don't want to doante 6.66euros
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:21 PM - flasche: that would be unchristian
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:21 PM - Neoony: you didnt make a post so how did you do what I said
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:21 PM - flasche: ^^
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:21 PM - Neoony: you gotta donate though
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:21 PM - Neoony: or you cant post
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:21 PM - Paradox: changed my pic fuck this
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:21 PM - Ranger: gib mony
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:21 PM - Paradox: I donated already otherwise my fb picture wouldnt be up on your screeeen
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:28 PM - Neoony: https://i.gyazo.com/5eec5428a9711942905307ff428d0d14.gif
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:28 PM - Neoony: hope thats clear enough
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:29 PM - Neoony: and yeh, taxes: https://i.gyazo.com/df62c33bbebb26c175db820dc238736c.png
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:30 PM - Neoony: add more goals or demotivation imminent
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:30 PM - Neoony: lol
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:32 PM - flasche: oh now i get it ^^
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:36 PM - Neoony: Tama have you got access to some API at patreon to use for automation with the forums?
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:36 PM - Neoony: seems people claim its only visible if you run some kind of campaign
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:36 PM - Neoony: not sure how they mean it
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:37 PM - Neoony: there are things like these https://github.com/Patreon/patreon-php
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:37 PM - Neoony: https://github.com/Patreon/patreon-python
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:38 PM - Neoony: meh, gotta google more
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:39 PM - vipervicki: tummy happy now
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:39 PM - vipervicki: made a cheese burger with fried onions and mushrooms
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:40 PM - Neoony: doesnt seem there is anything ready for xenforo+patreon
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:40 PM - Neoony: yum
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:40 PM - vipervicki: yah was good i was so hungry for some reason
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:42 PM - Xyaminou: what is it with americans and cheeseburgers
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:44 PM - vipervicki: lol its yummy
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:44 PM - vipervicki: The API presently has four main features: "Log in with Patreon" functionality to put on your website Your patrons can click a button on your site, and then your site gets to know whether or not they're a patron & how much they're pledging (along with profile photo, name, email, etc.) A "fetch me my patron's info plz" endpoint Get back a list of every patron currently pledging to you, along wit
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:45 PM - vipervicki: Some open source libraries that make integration easier live at: Patreon/patreon-python Patreon/patreon-ruby Patreon/patreon-java Patreon/patreon-php
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:45 PM - vipervicki: thye can put a button on here
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:46 PM - vipervicki: https://www.quora.com/Does-Patreon-com-have-an-official-API
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM - Neoony: yeh, but Iam more interested in making automated membership upgrades when donation on patreon
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:48 PM - Neoony: that would still need the xenforo plugin coded
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:48 PM - Neoony: but I will see what the guy from this threads last post tells me
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:48 PM - Neoony: https://xenforo.com/community/threads/patreon-user-upgrades-integration.113780/
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:49 PM - Neoony: I bet he will want money if he already has it coded xD
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM - vipervicki: most likely and I dont blame him for that
    Jan 13, 2017 at 10:52 PM - Neoony: his every post contains "lets start a chat please" :D
    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:01 PM - vipervicki: lol
    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:02 PM - Neoony: obviously for business :P
    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:16 PM - Neoony: lets see who will cancel the pledges before the 1st... XD
    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Neoony: well there seems to be a purchase agreement on paypal...wonder how hard is it to cancel
    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:17 PM - Neoony: not that I would want to
    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Neoony: but I can just click cancel
    Jan 13, 2017 at 11:18 PM - Neoony: and its 0$ reserved
    Jan 14, 2017 at 12:22 AM - vipervicki: with paypal you can cancel I have done it
    Jan 14, 2017 at 12:23 AM - vipervicki: purchase agreement but not in jsut donating money paypal donations system and button is different than the add to cart buy now stuff
    Jan 14, 2017 at 2:08 AM - VulcanStorm: Just made a tank trap with barbed wire.
    Jan 14, 2017 at 2:31 AM - Ranger: burb
     
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    Jan 14, 2017 3:57 PM - flasche: destroyer is the large monitor large enough now?
    Jan 14, 2017 4:08 PM - Xyaminou: how large is it?
    Jan 14, 2017 4:20 PM - Neoony: like large? O.o
    Jan 14, 2017 4:31 PM - flasche: aproximately 96 units ingame
    Jan 14, 2017 4:32 PM - flasche: and here have a 2nd p
    Jan 14, 2017 4:33 PM - flasche: and those 96units are height
    Jan 14, 2017 9:35 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if you logged on steam you'd see the old "it's perfect" message and a screenshot ^^ it's spot on
    Jan 15, 2017 2:10 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: supposedly the cooking update is coming to wurm unlimited this month...
    Jan 15, 2017 2:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/apehrv85sj923hs/Screenshot 2017-01-11 19.36.54.png?dl=0
    Jan 15, 2017 2:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: someone tell me if this looks good
    Jan 15, 2017 2:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: because i need some confirmation here
    Jan 15, 2017 2:17 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: if this looks good i'll apply it all over the map
    Jan 15, 2017 2:18 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: (different light intensity, sprites making the lamp look lit)
    Jan 15, 2017 2:18 AM - Kidpaler: pOST A BEFORE and after
    Jan 15, 2017 2:19 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: sec
    Jan 15, 2017 2:19 AM - Thexa4: The light temperature is a bit off, lamps are usually a mix of full blue and red, no green mixed in.
    Jan 15, 2017 2:20 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5a8nqk1fvo78cxt/Screenshot 2017-01-15 03.18.42.png?dl=0
    Jan 15, 2017 2:20 AM - Kidpaler: I like it, but I agree with Thexa simply because constructive criticism is always good.
    Jan 15, 2017 2:21 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: the light's color is a simple RGB combination so it has to have some green or else
    Jan 15, 2017 2:21 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: however i can tweak the value, so hold on
    Jan 15, 2017 2:22 AM - Thexa4: true, the green outlines in the sprites just looked a bit weird to me, the light itself is probably fine
    Jan 15, 2017 2:23 AM - Thexa4: here are some examples of normal temperatures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature
    Jan 15, 2017 2:26 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/selfsicc7ymixxh/Screenshot 2017-01-15 03.25.03.png?dl=0
    Jan 15, 2017 2:26 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i changed the leftmost ones to a greyish color
    Jan 15, 2017 2:27 AM - Thexa4: yea, that looks a bit more like a 6500K color :)
    Jan 15, 2017 2:28 AM - Kidpaler: I like it. but for the sake of constructive Criticism, can you make it have 3 floors instead of 2? I feel like it will change the dynamic of the map a lot. oh, and make level 3 MG's all over the place
    Jan 15, 2017 2:29 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i actually took that seriously for a second
    Jan 15, 2017 2:30 AM - Kidpaler: Can you make it so BE can launch the nukes prematurely and destroy the entire nation of Jekotia? Then it plays a cinematic at the end with a voice over saying "We have failed"
    Jan 15, 2017 2:30 AM - Kidpaler: "Many lives were lost, and all for noithing"
    Jan 15, 2017 2:38 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: you'd literally have that happen every time
    Jan 15, 2017 2:44 AM - Kidpaler: wELL i feel like
    Jan 15, 2017 2:44 AM - Kidpaler: If I was going to lose a precious nuke facility, I'd just launch them
    Jan 15, 2017 2:51 AM - Sgt.Security: That might happen IRL you know, "oh and I am about to git rekt, let's fire all our nukes because fuck it."
    Jan 15, 2017 2:55 AM - Sgt.Security: Makes sense too, I mean NF is here to cap the nuke so they can toss em right onto BE.
    Jan 15, 2017 2:56 AM - Kidpaler: Exactly. If I was a base commander for a base under attack I wouldnt be like "Let's avoid nuclear war by letting the nukes fall into the hands of our enemies"
    Jan 15, 2017 2:56 AM - Sgt.Security: I think that timer is the countdown for BE missiles.
    Jan 15, 2017 2:56 AM - Kidpaler: I'd be like "Fuck it, fire all ze missiles!"
    Jan 15, 2017 2:56 AM - Sgt.Security: Is that part of the storyline already? Destroyer, aka that timer is actaully the time it takes for BE to fire their missiles, NF's here to change the destination in time.
    Jan 15, 2017 3:47 AM - Kidpaler: The story is that BE has the missiles, but NF intercepted Nuclear Warheads from a BE convoy and are taking the base to stick the warheads on the missiles to launch
    Jan 15, 2017 3:47 AM - Kidpaler: However, if I was BE, I'd just launch the missiles so NF had nothing to put the warheads on
     
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    Jan 15, 2017 10:59 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: "nf_description" "The Northern Faction has intercepted and secured a Brenodi convoy transporting nuclear missiles and rocket fuel to a small facility hidden in a valley. After a short discussion with other officers the commander decided to deploy an attack force to secure the location and use the nuclear warheads to the Faction's advantage."
    Jan 15, 2017 10:59 AM - D.D.D. Destroyer: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Jan 15, 2017 2:42 PM - Ranger: nuclear war is safe in space right? space is full of radiation anyway
    Jan 15, 2017 3:31 PM - flasche: war never is safe
    Jan 15, 2017 3:32 PM - flasche: and define space
    Jan 15, 2017 3:37 PM - Ranger: well deep space. or even planets without atmosphere. You would always need protection from radiation
    Jan 15, 2017 3:39 PM - flasche: why would you wage war in deep space?
    Jan 15, 2017 3:39 PM - flasche: there is so much of it, no need to fight for it
    Jan 15, 2017 3:40 PM - flasche: and chances you meet someone also is quite small for the same reason
    Jan 15, 2017 3:40 PM - flasche: are*
    Jan 15, 2017 3:41 PM - flasche: also i think thats not a question of the next few thousand years anyway
    Jan 15, 2017 3:41 PM - flasche: certainly no issue in my, your or even our childrens or childrens children lifetime
    Jan 15, 2017 3:42 PM - flasche: and i think in space it would be smartest to use projectile weapons. just make sure they have a high velocity and they even dont need to be large.
    Jan 15, 2017 3:43 PM - flasche: and theres barely any maintainance neccessary, no risk of them leaking, breaking or blowing up
    Jan 15, 2017 4:35 PM - Xyaminou: that's very optimistic of you flasche
    Jan 15, 2017 4:36 PM - Xyaminou: as much as I like to believe the people who currently have the means to colonize the solar system are smart enough not to go to war with each other. I wouldn't count it out entirely.
    Jan 15, 2017 4:37 PM - Xyaminou: and well space might be big but the points of interest are still fairly limited.
    Jan 15, 2017 4:39 PM - Xyaminou: to go back to Ranger question, I would think it's technically more dangerous to detonate a nuke above a planet without atmosphere than it is to detonate one above earth as then there is nothing to absorb the radiation
    Jan 15, 2017 4:40 PM - Xyaminou: but like you said if people were living on Mars for example, they'd have to protect themselves from radiation. For example in the eponymous series they live in Domes at the bottom of volcanic faults to avoid most of the radiations.
    Jan 15, 2017 4:41 PM - Xyaminou: But yeah you're definitely safer on earth
    Jan 15, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: All that being said, once you get to such a scale as space nuclear weapons are actually pretty small.
    Jan 15, 2017 4:42 PM - Xyaminou: And do remember that not so long ago people detonated nukes in earth higher atmosphere
    Jan 15, 2017 4:43 PM - Xyaminou: TL;DR: no idea...
    Jan 15, 2017 5:04 PM - flasche: he said deep space tho
    Jan 15, 2017 5:04 PM - flasche: and mars has an atmosphere
    Jan 15, 2017 5:05 PM - flasche: also detonating a nuke in earth atmospher causes an EMP which, depending on what is below might be not so cool either ;)
    Jan 15, 2017 5:06 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: xya where are you we were supposed to play dnd today
    Jan 15, 2017 5:09 PM - flasche: also i think nukes are quite barbaric, i would think a spacefaring civilzation would be capable of better weaponry with less sideeffects.
    Jan 15, 2017 5:10 PM - flasche: also whats optimistic about it? that we dont have to worry about a war in deep space for the next couple of generations?
    Jan 15, 2017 5:10 PM - flasche: i rather consider the opposite quite optimistic since it assumes we would become a spacefaring civilization, which we wont. im more inclined to believe we take the lemming way out.
    Jan 15, 2017 5:11 PM - flasche: or the dodo way. see it as you wish, i dont think humanity will make it another thousand years
    Jan 15, 2017 5:12 PM - flasche: id be surprised - tho ofc dead barely are surprised - if we made it another 2-300 years
    Jan 15, 2017 5:12 PM - flasche: make*
    Jan 15, 2017 5:14 PM - flasche: tbh i would be less surprised if thered be another big war in my lifetime.
    Jan 15, 2017 5:17 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: i'm half expecting one to break out and i hope it happens far far away
    Jan 15, 2017 5:18 PM - flasche: historically south america is not that bad of a place to be then :P
    Jan 15, 2017 5:20 PM - flasche: or generally on the southern hemisphere, seems world wars are more a matter of the north
    Jan 15, 2017 5:39 PM - Xyaminou: why wouldn't we become a space faring civilization?
    Jan 15, 2017 5:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: because oil
    Jan 15, 2017 5:41 PM - D.D.D. Destroyer: until we find something to reliably provide us with insane wealth somewhere in space we're staying right here
    Jan 15, 2017 6:03 PM - Paradox: FUSION REACTORS
    Jan 15, 2017 6:03 PM - Paradox: AY LMAO
    Jan 15, 2017 6:11 PM - Xyaminou: well that's only one part Paradox
    Jan 15, 2017 6:12 PM - Xyaminou: fusion reactor doesn't exactly give you bigger batteries
    Jan 15, 2017 6:12 PM - Xyaminou: but I still maintain that we'll become a space faring civilization before the end of the century
    Jan 15, 2017 6:36 PM - Paradox: You can just put a fission/fusion reactor on a fucking ship
    Jan 15, 2017 6:36 PM - Paradox: you know like you would on a submarine
    Jan 15, 2017 6:36 PM - Paradox: like you know THEY ARE DOING ALREADY
    Jan 15, 2017 6:37 PM - Paradox: batteries arent the future, having a portable reactor is
    Jan 15, 2017 7:20 PM - Ranger: NOT ACCODING TO RIMWORLD!!!!!
    Jan 15, 2017 7:21 PM - Ranger: 11111
    Jan 15, 2017 7:21 PM - flasche: bzzzz
    Jan 15, 2017 7:21 PM - flasche: FIRE!!!!
    Jan 15, 2017 7:22 PM - flasche: fuck i should have used less wood
    Jan 15, 2017 7:22 PM - flasche: nice game tho
    Jan 15, 2017 7:23 PM - Ranger: I only play in lands full of granite and marble. marble is easier to mine almost as much as slate and it's the best rock for sculpturs. #profit. granite is to make stronk castles in the mountain
    Jan 15, 2017 7:24 PM - flasche: and you need it for electrical crematories
    Jan 15, 2017 7:25 PM - flasche: i was so sad when i built one in a place with no granite
    Jan 15, 2017 7:26 PM - Ranger: You do you want to make a crematorium out of granite?
    Jan 15, 2017 7:26 PM - flasche: the electrical needs to be doesnt it?
    Jan 15, 2017 7:27 PM - Ranger: No..? any rock will do.
    Jan 15, 2017 7:27 PM - flasche: oh lol im dumb
    Jan 15, 2017 7:27 PM - flasche: i should wiki more often
    Jan 15, 2017 7:28 PM - flasche: but then id fail less and itd be half the fun
    Jan 15, 2017 7:30 PM - Ranger: You can select the main material of many/most furniture and workbenches
    Jan 15, 2017 7:35 PM - flasche: yeah i know, for whatever reason i didnt consider this when building the crematory
    Jan 15, 2017 7:35 PM - flasche: so i traded granite
    Jan 15, 2017 9:25 PM - flasche: where to put crashdumps?
    Jan 15, 2017 9:27 PM - Kidpaler: Make a thread under Support
    Jan 15, 2017 9:29 PM - flasche: probably the worst title now i think about it ^^
    Jan 15, 2017 9:30 PM - flasche: im kinda happy it crashed tho, that game was shit from the begining
    Jan 15, 2017 9:31 PM - flasche: map was isle, half the team went center, other half east (as nf) :rolleyes:
    Jan 15, 2017 11:44 PM - Ranger: Someone make empires forum app
    Jan 15, 2017 11:52 PM - Paradox: done http://bit.ly/IqT6zt
    Jan 15, 2017 11:52 PM - Paradox: its a bit buggy sometimes
    Jan 16, 2017 1:22 AM - vipervicki: lol we have that on NUB as an admin sound
    Jan 16, 2017 1:23 AM - vipervicki: i made it at fly's request
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    Jan 16, 2017 1:53 AM - Xyaminou: looks like Vicki's getting drunk.
     
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