Research Tree

Discussion in 'Art' started by bitchslap, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. A-z-K

    A-z-K Member

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    To be fair, In my defense..... I am mentally retarded.
     
  2. bitchslap

    bitchslap Member

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    anyone know what file i can pull the research times from?
     
  3. LordDz_2

    LordDz_2 Strange things happens here

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    It's in the scripts folder.
    research_items.txt
     
  4. bitchslap

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    thank you!
     
  5. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    You're one of the best coms in the game. If you're retarded...
     
  6. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Nope, that was always next to UML.

    Detonators/Detonation, they were always referred to as Improved Det and Electrical Improved Det. You weren't there man. But seriously, Electrical Improved Det was removed 4 and a half years ago for 2.2, simply because researching it didn't actually give you anything at all. Or to put it simply, Electrical Improved Det was removed long before a lot of the people (including yourself) in this thread even started playing Empires.
     
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  7. bitchslap

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    Okay so before I go further, want some feedback. Working on doing all icons and possibly text labels to help noobs as well as vets. Two screenies as a sample.


    Areas of feedback desired:




    1. Where could the 60s (time of research) go ?
    2. Icons are sexy, no?
    3. Which turret icon is prettier? (i like the NF one, and putting both would be too small to recognize)
    4. Thinking the current ingame hex cubes for categories will work, any better ideas?
    5. Why we exist?






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  8. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    I feel like we only run into issues such as time placement because of the chosen medium. You do attractive work, but you can't fight the inherent limitations of an image. Why haven't we simply done a basic outline?

    http://goo.gl/Ut4oG

    It's absurdly easier to maintain and nearly as good at communicating the information.

    Colors can be changed to signify categories and times can be added. This is a quick and dirty proof of concept.
     
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  9. bitchslap

    bitchslap Member

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    because a picture is worth a thousand.....


    noobs and vets will be able to understand and use as a quick ref. plus its not hard to update once it is done unless they change all the icons for weapons, so really if anyone is planning that then might as well stick with the text list, but we all know noobs dont usually read, they want to play.
     
  10. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    either bad luck or a cyncal god - im still undecided though.

    on a more serious note, this is taking a good direction. i prefer the 1st turret but i think the times are a bit too small. it doesnt really matter where you put them as long as they are readable and its easy to recognize what item they belong to. and finally, if you replace the text with images at least put it above or below the icon - you might know that tree #3 is mechanical and #4 is electrical, but how is someone in need of such research tree supposed to know the names?
     
  11. bitchslap

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    if i knew how to do mouseovers, then i could do exactly what i want for this image.


    I'll try to work the labels in somehow cause ya, I figured the same, noobs won't know squat about the icons.
     
  12. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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  13. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus nerf spec plz

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    You can't just make an image file that accomplishes that. You would need Flash or HTML or something.
     
  14. Beerdude26

    Beerdude26 OnThink(){ IsDownYet(); }

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  15. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    sure he'll be happy about canvas if he doesnt even know about map ...
     
  16. bitchslap

    bitchslap Member

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    i'm not a programmer, nor desire to be. After my fun with C++ in college years ago, I know that there is little joy in that venture for me.
     
  17. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    its not magic either, just a lot more javascript then simply adding pixel coordinates in a html tag - you wont get as good results with map though ;)
     
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  18. Ikalx

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    Made an updated Research.xls like I usually do (to get to know the times) the other day. Mayaswell link it in case you want the newer timings. Most should be correct, but that's not 100% guaranteed.

    http://www.mediafire.com/view/?14qw4na15t4211v
     

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