Make Health Regen cancel bio effect

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Grantrithor, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. Grantrithor

    Grantrithor Member

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    It's a really useless skill, I think it should stop the bio effect, or shorten the bio effect time.
     
  2. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    my idea
     
  3. Grantrithor

    Grantrithor Member

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    lol in your face.
     
  4. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    Wouldn't be the first time someone took credit for one of my bug finds or suggestions.
     
  5. Fooshi

    Fooshi For fuck's sake Fooshi

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    I'd rather want it to regen health faster.
     
  6. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    OP[​IMG]
     
  7. Fooshi

    Fooshi For fuck's sake Fooshi

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    Like HP regen is useful already.
     
  8. Grantrithor

    Grantrithor Member

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    yeah or that since it hardly does anything currently.
     
  9. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    I was the one who came up with this idea because it is useless. If you make it increase hp faster then it becomes OP. With this it fills a niche for that shitty bio effect when you are far from a health crate or only near dumb engys.
     
  10. Empty

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    How the fuck would you know what tweaking regen rates will do to balance dubee, you play with empires' one shot weapon primarily anyway.
     
  11. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    How the fuck would you know what tweaking regen rates would do to balance? We never even play together and its stupid to think that just cause I like a certain weapon that I wouldn't know whats already been tested. You need to let go of this stupid grudge you have against me and recognize that I know every aspect and can play every part to this game as good if not better than you. This was tested in 1.8(2.0) Just like the scout rifle, it was either too weak or too powerful. With a faster regen you start to get shot, take cover and get full health right after you reload. Kind of an invincibility skill.

    Making it stop bio's health drain would make the skill more situational and useful with out being OP. Also stamina upgrade could do the same except make bio not drain stamina. These also go along well with my turn plasma into BE's bio weaponry since heat sucks and its a cannon instead of missle.
     
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  12. alucard13mmfmj

    alucard13mmfmj Member

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    i think its fine the way they are... regenerative armor is weak against bio weapons.. so its natural that regenerative skill would be weak against bio weapons as well. but yeh. regenerative skill is semi-useless... i only use it when im hurt badly and near a racks.. regen back up to 100% hp then change back to my old skill. regen skill is not useful when fighting in a squad.. it might be ok for scout or a loner to use.
     
  13. Empty

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    I'd appreciate if you didn't have a swearing fit when I address you dubee.
     
  14. alucard13mmfmj

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    i like this ^_^..
     
  15. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    I've played with you and Empty on many occasions, and that's really not true. You may well be able to aim with the mortar better than 95% of the empires playerbase, but I'd still take Empty on my team as general infantry over you. He doesn't try to override the commander with shitty suggestions constantly, like claiming that biodiesel HE mediums are shit, when they most clearly aren't. And on top of that, he's able to play classes other than the gren.
     
  16. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    I'd appreciate it if you would realize I said the same thing you did. I took it word for word and was basically pointing out your rage at me.

    I've prolly played with you 5 times. Just cause you guys don't like me doesn't mean you should spam off topic bull shit in this thread. I don't need to prove my empires skills in this thread. Usually when I feel like helping I will, but when your commanding I feel like being a rambo troll cause your like HSM. Also I was either trolling you or you have me mistaken cause a bio HE med is my favorite tank setup in the game.

    How about you guys either discuss the idea's pros and cons or go vent your anger else where.
     
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  17. Grantrithor

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    ...err back to the topic...

    Bio is like an infection, that eats away at the soldiers, health regen could be kind of a Bio vacine, for the NF make it seem like the soldiers were born from two parents with the vacine and for BE make it seem like the nanites are strengthened to repel the Bio disease. Or just make it seem like your health is regenerating while bio is eating away at the same time, so it cancels out.
     
  18. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    One of my first experiences of playing Dubee was probably about a year ago, on canyon. We were NF, and our comm had biodiesel HE mediums. We were totally ripping up shit. But there was this constant whining of someone calling our commander a noob. This same person managed to get an NF medium of all tanks, stuck in a pothole. He was gren but besides using the mortar, was unable to do jackshit. This person whined incessantly, saying that the team would never accomplish anything with "these shitty tanks" and that we were being griefed. Meanwhile, the rest of us took these tanks and utterly destroyed the enemy, and won the game. This person, was Dubee Grapehead. I remember this event very well, as I found it very surprising that the "great Dubee Grapehead" was this stupid.
     
  19. Dubee

    Dubee Grapehead

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    Who gives a fuck trickster? I don't always play this game seriously. Stop whining and discuss the topic or shut up.
     
  20. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Except you're the one who moved it onto that shit by going on about how much better than Empty you are. Come back when you can be less hypocritical.

    Anyway, onto the actual suggestion. Having it cancel the bio effect won't solve the fact it's fucking useless. It'll be useful on escort and that's about it. It's not difficult to rework the skill to make it less overpowered, such as regenerating in bursts, as opposed to long term 1 health every couple of seconds, or a variety of other ideas. But making it cancel the bio effect, whilst not a bad feature of it, still won't make it useful.
     

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