"Junk"

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  1. BlakkCooper

    BlakkCooper Member

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    Hi everyone,

    i have a interesting concept. i dont think it will find the way into the game but think about it... maybe something is usefull.

    i call it the concept of "Junk". i have this idea from command & conquer generals. u know the terrorist can collect junk and can upgrade their vehicles/get promoted/receive money. maybe engineers can collect junk from vahicle wrecks (by using the calculator) and do some stuff with this junk. like building a "unique" turret maybe with some walls made of armor plates (with the same attributes of the collected armor junk).

    example: an engineer collects the DU HMG and reactive armor from an apc and then he build a DU HMG turret with a reactive armor "shield" arround it to protect the unit that controlls the DU HMG.

    this would make the game a lot more strategic because the enemy team can use the own weapons! i think this would decrease the abyss between uneven teams (due to research failure).

    (sorry for my bad english)
     
  2. Chris0132'

    Chris0132' Developer

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    Interesting idea.

    Not sure how it would affect the game to be honest.
     
  3. Lazydog

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    oOo, I want to create a lvl3 nuke turret with a composite shield around it :)
     
  4. Empty

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    I don't think so, I doubt there'd be much opportunity for it anyway, when I'm skirmishing I don't often have time to hang around a corpse of a tank, and generally if you've made a kill the tank is inferior.
     
  5. Vessboy

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    I just want dead tanks to stay longer creating cover for infantry. Maybe makeing them decompose and destruckt able.
     
  6. Chris0132'

    Chris0132' Developer

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    Having them stay for a few minutes would be nice, especially if you made it so that engies can repair them to get resources or something.

    Basically think the salvage ability of pioneers from CoH. I'd be more practical than this suggestion.
     
  7. Ikalx

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    Scavenging has been raised before...it's a good concept, but requires much time to implement. If you suggest it like this, you'll probably need to work on a system first, then balance it, then propose it so it can be rebalanced...
     
  8. Kai

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    Lol at you calling it a calculator.

    COMBAT CALCULATOR!
     
  9. Chris0132'

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    It's been called that for some time, partly because the previous models of the calculators (and to an extent the current ones) really did look like calculators.

    The BE one looked a lot like some of the recent TI models.
     
  10. ViroMan

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    I wouldn't mind having both these ideas.

    A) Random part from enemy tank can be added/exchanged to your own altho with crappier values. (due to being blown up.) Also U Must be engy.
    LOL FEAR MY DOUBLE CANNON LT THAT MOVES HALF THE SPEED OF A HEAVY!

    B) Tank hulks stay longer for engy to get some Res from it.
     
  11. Vessboy

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    They are also awsome cover. I'm not sure of the res thing. but they should be destructable so there not blocking arrmor advances.
     
  12. Brutos

    Brutos Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    make 2 50 res apc on xroads and you have a cheap wall, that is cheaper that the normal one. And can serve as a respawn for short time.
     
  13. Sherbie

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    50 res?

    I'm pretty sure the cheapest APC is around 110, that'd be without armor and standard engine. c-c
     
  14. Vaun

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    How about whats suggested most: slice a tank, get res from it.
     
  15. Vessboy

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    If I cant use my pile of ragdolls as cover then I want destructable tank debris cover.
     
  16. Vaun

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    Decon a tank, get res, build a wall (but urs cost res now, but no limit except your teams resources) and hide behind it.

    Also if i learned anything about the source engine from smod, its that you can be mangled trying to walk over a dead npc's ragdoll or ragdolls, and im sure itll work the same for players' corpses.
     
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  17. Empty

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    That's the reason they added kicking, to clear up ragdolls if you got stuck.
     
  18. Vaun

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    I was responding to how vess said hed like to use a pile of corpses as cover... The source engine doesnt like solid ragdolls piling up... lags a lot too if they move.
     
  19. Empty

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    Yes, and I replied with the valid point that you need a method to clear yourself away from ragdolls as they have a habit of being screwy.
     
  20. angry hillbilly

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    I think the basis of the idea could work. Like stealing reserch and stuff. The engis on the team would get the junk and it would collect reserch points for the team. And with reserch points they could buy a new armour engine weapon instantly without haveing to wait for it to be reserched :D:D You would still be able to reserch stuff normaly but u know what i mean.

    Oh and the differant reserch would require differant amounts of points obiously like nuke100pts Regen: 15

    Dont know how the ratio of junk to points would go. mabe the better the stuff the tank has the more points so a light tank with standed stuff gives less points than a Duel rail heavy :D:D
     

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