Is Scout kicking new players?

Discussion in 'General' started by Sgt.Security, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. Sgt.Security

    Sgt.Security Member

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    First of all , I am quite serious.

    I discovered a funny but pathetic phenomenon in EMP recently,new players who didn't read manual or wiki or some other crap usually pick Scout as their first job.( Not all , but I would say it's like half newbies or even more )

    And as we all know , Scout isn't THAT easy to play for a beginner and usually newbies just keep getting their ass kicked.

    When they get their ass raped for many times , I am pretty sure some of them will feel exhausted and just uninstall the game before they have the chance to play other classes and enjoy them.
    (yes I just met one said EMP sux while he's playing scunt and gained 3-1-7 , but I convinced him that other classes is fun so he didn't quit.)

    I think a possible solution could be : TUTORIAL IN GAME( Yes I know it's in progress but gotta hurry ;D , and we force newbie to play them when they start the game for the first time.
    (Today :
    Newbie A : One thing that this game lack is tutorial
    Newbie B : Yah.
    Newbie C : Exactly.
    Me : sm_setnextmap emp_tutorial
    Me : o wait, SLADE(IF IT WORKS , BLAME HIM) THINK the map doesn't work.
    Me : Go to www.empiresmod.com for more information , then.)

    Another solution could be : ...well I am sleepy , I forgot what I want to say.

    anyway, that's all for now.

    Just to inform devs that this is actually happening and we need tutorial :)
     
  2. Deiform

    Deiform Member

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    Tbh the default class is engie, plus there are hints on what things do. The rest is kinda intuitive, if they don't know then they should ask. Someone will tell them.

    Most of us coped quite well without a tutorial, plus there's a quick manual in the install folder.
     
  3. Sgt.Security

    Sgt.Security Member

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    You have a point .
    However, I am just telling you what I saw. Lots newbies just pick scout and in the last 4 or 5 years, I can't really count how many newbies quit EMP because scunt ruined their first impression. ( HARD , DIFFICULT , SOPHISTICATED GAME)

    And unfortunately , usually people just ignore newbies's question or even give them a middle finger.
    Hence they'll give EMP a middle finger too.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2011
  4. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Tutorial map is single player btw.
     
  5. w00kie

    w00kie Mustachioed Mexican

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    better tell them to type "motd" in chat and press the HELP button.
    that way they don't close empires.
     
  6. Lollum

    Lollum Tester++

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    I guess it is because the scout is the only one with a what they think is a sniper-rifle.
     
  7. Meliarion

    Meliarion Member

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    Scout is a horrible class that I hate and wish was gone.
     
  8. alucard13mmfmj

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    if scout is so shitty.. then why are there more scouts than HMGers
     
  9. RappemongO

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    IMO it's not the class, its the armament. The rifle is a distance weapon, while all the scouts real abilities are up close and personal.
     
  10. Trickster

    Trickster Retired Developer

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    Part of me still thinks the rifleman should get the scout rifle, not scout.
     
  11. LordDz

    LordDz Capitan Rainbow Flowers

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    Well, get that tutorial map out somewhere around this year and it should help a bit.
     
  12. Lollum

    Lollum Tester++

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    FixFax.
     
  13. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    i think scouts ... oh wait, why argue, its how many years now?
     
  14. aaaaaa50

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    :headshot: (LIttle upset)

    The Scout Rifle has always been the worst weapon in Empires. :pathetic:

    Unless the scout rifle is somehow magically changed to be useful, balanced and fun, then it should be removed from the game. No class would benefit from being given the scout rifle, since they all have weapons that already suit their classes. Good Scouts who use the SMGs do much better than with the Scout Rifles. If we need to give Scout's their own unique weapon, why not just modify an SMG or get someone to model shotguns?
     
  15. alucard13mmfmj

    alucard13mmfmj Member

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    dood, some people rock with scout sniper rifle.. seems like they almost never miss and do headshots for 90 damage or something. I forgot who.. harryhoot maybe. Scout is not suppose to be a killer anyways, so why have a AWP?
     
  16. Deadpool

    Deadpool SVETLANNNAAAAAA

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    yeah just get rid of it

    can we really even talk about the sniper rifle anymore?

    is there anything left to say?

    get shotgun
    ftw
     
  17. gezor

    gezor Member

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    remove scout class. problem solved.
     
  18. Emp_Recruit

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    kidding bra? it used to 1 shot up close was fucking gosu for first couple min of district till health upgrades started showing up en mass
     
  19. Emp_Recruit

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    just fucking get rid of it already
     
  20. flasche

    flasche Member Staff Member Moderator

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    wonder if id fail a bet that there still will be the same discussion with the exact same arguments in a year :D
     

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